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September 19, 2023
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Connect Amp keeps dropping out audio

  • September 19, 2023
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Hi I have 4 Connect Amps that have been working fine for some years but just recently they are dropping the Audio for a few seconds which is very annoying. I have spoken to Sonos Support on a few occasions and done everything they have suggested to fix this which they say is WiFi Interference such as switching channels etc but still have problems. This happens on any music source but I have noticed when the speakers go silent the sound levels are still going up and down on the app as if its playing the audio in other words not muted, not sure if this helps identify the problem. I am getting to the point now where soon these will be removed as they just aren't worth the hassle. I have seen a few threads where people have had the same problem but the only answers I have seen are contact Sonos Support.

Has anyone had this problem and got a viable solution??????

Some posts suggest an issue with S2 being introduced so does anyone know if this is a problem??

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Best answer by Ken_Griffiths

So far I have tried as suggested by Sonos to give the 5GHz Wifi a different name, turned off auto on 2.4GHz channels so I can force it to be 1, 6 or 11, I haven't tried setting to 20Mhz so will give this a try.

Btw Ken can you give me more advice re your comment “give Sonnet a shot”? I did originally have one C:A hard wired to my switch with ethernet cable and then daisy chained the other 3 C:A’s but this didnt help, do you think it would be better for each C:A to be hard wired to the switch?

SonosNet is where one device is wired to the router (but positioned at least one metre away) - that allows Sonos to use its own in-built wireless mesh signal… so all your other Amps connect back to the wired device either directly or indirectly. If doing that, it’s best to do two further things…

  1. Set the SonosNet channel in the App’s network settings so it is at least 5 channels away from your chosen 2.4Ghz router channel, which should in turn be on fixed channel 1, 6 or 11 and ideally set at 20Mhz channel-width (if the router allows).
  2. Remove the router WiFi SSID from the Sonos App network settings as the local WiFi signal is no longer used and that will stop the Amps trying to hop onto your WiFi signal.

All that said however, the fact you now have the option to wire all to a switch - it makes sense to go with that option instead and you could even choose to switch off the Amps WiFi adapters in the Sonos App to reduce the potential for network loops/storms, but if they do work fine with the WiFi adapters enabled, then I would just leave them - that’s a matter for yourself.

Here are some links that may assist too…

 

105 replies

Stanley_4
Grand Maestro
September 30, 2023

I had two problem neighbors so I wired as many Sonos to Ethernet as I could, gave me a strong enough signal to all the wireless ones that things worked pretty well.

I really would do a fresh diagnostic and call back, hoping for a better tech.

Big BullAuthor
October 3, 2023

Hi as suggested I did a new diagnostic and called Sonos support and spent nearly an hour on the phone while the guy I was talking to spoke to his superior somewhere else who could see the interruptions on the system and has now suggested a different reason for the audio drop outs.

He says it’s because my Connect Amps are running out of memory!!

Apparently the reason being that as there have been software upgrades over the years they have taken up more and more memory leaving less for buffering the data.

Sonos proposed solution is to replace the Connect Amp with the newer Amp system!

When I asked how much memory the CA has versus the Amp I couldn’t get an answer plus I can’t find this information on the data sheet!

Anyone have any comments on what Sonos are saying is the problem and the suggested solution which as I have 4 CA’s is an expensive solution?

I did suggest maybe downgrading the software to an earlier version that doesn’t take up as much memory as I don’t want any extra features they may have added as all I do on the system is listen to BBC Sounds but was told this wouldn’t work.

BigBull
buzz
Grand Maestro
October 3, 2023

SONOS staff would be in a better position to comment on memory utilization, but I think that there is a communication issue. If data reaching the player is corrupted or starved and it seems (in the player’s opinion) that the problem can be rectified quickly, the player will mute. If the issue is more severe, the player will abandon the current track and attempt the next track. Obviously, skip a track is not an option for a live stream.

You can find memory availability here.

Big BullAuthor
October 6, 2023

Still no joy on fixing my drop out problem, I even emailed the CEO Patrick Spence in desperation but he didn’t respond so he’s as good as his ‘expert’ support engineers who are really just call handlers! At the very beginning of this experience I told the support guy that I had hard wired my system to the router before we started diagnosing the problem and coming to the initial conclusion that the problem was wifi interference! Here is a dum question…….if my system is hard wired to the router and the wifi on each Connect Amp disabled how can the problem be wifi interference? It’s got to the situation that I’m looking at the Amazon Echo Link Amp to replace all my Connect Amps especially as they are a lot cheaper! 

BigBull
Airgetlam
October 6, 2023

Just curious if you’ve performed a network refresh, with the possibility of duplicate IP addresses somewhere, or did I miss a post that said all these devices have reserved IP addresses in your router?

It’s not uncommon for people (like me!) to put simple duplicate IP addresses in the same bucket as wifi interference , even though it clearly isn’t. It can affect any network, unwired or wired. 

Bruce
buzz
Grand Maestro
October 6, 2023

Check for silly things, such as an intermittent network cable. As a test, enable the WiFi. While smaller buffers could make the system more vulnerable to drops when there are communications issues, resolving the communication issues is a good plan. The diagnostics provide a good log of communications issues, if any. Was there any discussion of communication quality while you were working with Support?

Big BullAuthor
October 8, 2023

Hi Buzz no there wasn't any discussion re quality, by the way would it help to fix the IP addresses? Also does anyone know if I added a boost would that eliminate interference although I think they may be discontinued? As for network refresh I have done multiple refreshes!

BigBull
buzz
Grand Maestro
October 8, 2023

Always reserve IP addresses. 

buzz
Grand Maestro
October 8, 2023

From my seat this seems like some sort of communication issue, but this leaves tracks in the diagnostics.

Are you Grouping the players? Try reducing the size of the Group and building the Group in a different order.

Use a network analysis App, and check PING times to the players. Many of these Apps can check for duplicate Ip addresses.

Big BullAuthor
October 8, 2023

Re reserving the IP addresses I tried to reserve them by changing setting on my hub to always use a specific IP address which I switched to ‘Yes’ but it doesnt seem to save the setting. I assume the hub should recognise the MAC address and then set the IP address that is reserved but as I say it doesnt save the setting to always use the same IP Address!! I have a group of 4 players together!

BigBull