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Connect:AMP keeps cutting out...all components hardwired

  • January 11, 2024
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I’ve noticed others with the same problem...so I anticipate the answer may be obsolescence (planned or otherwise), but looking for official support here if possible.

All components have been hardwired and in place for over 5 years (except for the newer connect models, which replaced older connect:amps not supported by S2.

The Diag file number is 2005163756.

Many thanks if someone could review the diagnostics and LMK.

 

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Best answer by Corry P

Hi @Gerald Harmon 

Welcome to the Sonos Community!

Thanks for the diagnostics - your Connect:AMP is experiencing issues with keeping up with the tasks given it. You will most likely experience this issue while playing from some music services, but not while playing others.

None of the mitigation steps I could advise will relate to your setup - the Connect:AMP is not in charge of managing STP for the system at large, it is not providing a network link to any other devices, and you already have both Crossfade and Shuffle disabled.

Although you will probably experience these issues each and every time that you play from specific sources (e.g. Spotify, iHeart Radio, NRK Radio, and, by the looks of the logs, Pandora), you may not experience any issues with playing other sources, including different online services, Line-In or while having the Connect:AMP as part of a group (ensure you do not choose it’s room first, or it will be in charge of group, making things worse).

By owning this device, you are eligible for a 15% discount in our store for any single item or set of multiple items - please log in at https://login.sonos.com, then click the user icon in the top right, then Upgrade. The voucher will be automatically applied to the most expensive item in your basket.

I hope this helps.

 

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Corry P
Sonos Staff
February 1, 2024

Hi @Gerald Harmon 

The Service Pack released on the 24th Jan only contained security fixes, so I have no idea (well, one - see below) why you don’t hear any more interruptions on your Connect:AMP. I was thinking the same as @Kumar, however:

But, gift horses come to mind!

I looked at the diagnostics you sent and I see no evidence of the errors I was seeing before. I do rather suspect that they will come back though, but I will be happy (and a little confused) to be proved wrong.

I don’t see any commands for the Connect:AMP to play, however - did you test playback with it as part of a group? I don’t see it grouped in the diagnostic, but you may have disbanded the group before submission. Testing in a group may have made a positive difference if previous testing was done in “Deck And Garage” alone, or with “Deck And Garage” being the first listed in the group (and thus in charge of the entire group), as it will have been doing less “work” as a secondary member of a group.

Uh, by the way, the diagnostics contain all the system info you posted, and much more besides. We recommend that you do not share serial numbers on the community as they can be used as identifying information when calling in to our support team.

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." - Albert Einstein
Trending Lyricist I
February 1, 2024

@Corry P yeah sorry was just trying to be helpful.  perfectly fine to remove all of that from my post if it streamlines.

with that said, i was trying before (as suggested) to never let the C:A devices “take the lead” on any playback.  both now and before, letting a newer device take the lead then adding a C:A device to the group.  working now….wasn’t then.  agree with the gift horse, but still seems very coincidental that an update applied and I have better functionality than before over quite a long test period.

FWIW, i use the desktop app (Windows) as well as iOS, and I used the desktop app to update.  I use the desktop app most mornings, as part of a routine, and when I see the “Update” option, I generally go ahead and apply.  The option wasn’t there last week….

PS can’t believe the Company hasn’t replied to my tweet yet.  I tried!

Corry P
Sonos Staff
February 1, 2024

Hi @Gerald Harmon 

@Corry P yeah sorry was just trying to be helpful.  perfectly fine to remove all of that from my post if it streamlines.

Hey - no problemo! I appreciate the attempt at assistance - it’s just that serial numbers are best kept private. Ironically, you censored your local IP addresses which don’t tell anyone a thing - the majority of all local IP addresses are very similar (my gateway address, for example, is 192.168.0.1 - likely the same as yours, which doesn’t really tell anyone anything). The other common range is 10.0.0.x.

with that said, i was trying before (as suggested) to never let the C:A devices “take the lead” on any playback.  both now and before, letting a newer device take the lead then adding a C:A device to the group.  working now….wasn’t then.  agree with the gift horse, but still seems very coincidental that an update applied and I have better functionality than before over quite a long test period.

I won’t argue that it’s weird, that’s for sure! I hate to be a naysayer, but I think further testing will produce the same errors again.

FWIW, i use the desktop app (Windows) as well as iOS, and I used the desktop app to update.  I use the desktop app most mornings, as part of a routine, and when I see the “Update” option, I generally go ahead and apply.  The option wasn’t there last week….

The Sonos app is like a remote control - it just sends your commands to speakers, and reports back what they want to tell you. It’s the speakers themselves that handle the update process (see the Associated Product at the top of your system info? - that’s the unit that will be relaying commands from the app to the system, and it can change each time you open the app as it’s just the first product to respond to the app asking “is there anybody there?”).

I believe the update availability is somewhat staggered so as to avoid flooding our servers with simultaneous updates from every system - that may be why you didn’t see the update until recently.

I hope this helps.

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." - Albert Einstein
February 1, 2024

Hi Corry

 

its clear that this is now firmly on Sonos’s radar and that something is in the works.

 

you did hint elsewhere that each users mileage may vary.  This is a little worrying, and I’m just wondering if Sonos consider the C:Amps as viable products or end of life?  In short, will the fix — fix?  Or only for the lucky ones ? 
 

thanks

andrew 

Corry P
Sonos Staff
February 1, 2024

Hi @Andrew-s 

I appreciate that you want to find out more, but I really don’t have that information, nor do I personally know enough about it to guess (not that I would share a guess publicly).

There is an update coming very soon - I recommend waiting for it and seeing how things go then.

Please remember that I did point out that you were probably off-topic for this thread - that means that whatever I say here doesn’t really apply to your situation.

 

I hope this helps.

 

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." - Albert Einstein
Bumper
February 1, 2024

Hi @Andrew-s 

I appreciate that you want to find out more, but I really don’t have that information, nor do I personally know enough about it to guess (not that I would share a guess publicly).

There is an update coming very soon - I recommend waiting for it and seeing how things go then.

Please remember that I did point out that you were probably off-topic for this thread - that means that whatever I say here doesn’t really apply to your situation.

 

I hope this helps.

 

Perhaps you should send a service update to owners or pop up in this website to let them know a fix is coming so people hold off dumping their faulty units that may be a fixed by a firmware update. 

February 1, 2024

Perhaps you should send a service update to owners or pop up in this website to let them know a fix is coming so people hold off dumping their faulty units that may be a fixed by a firmware update. 

Good suggestion if taken on board!

Stanley_4
Grand Maestro
February 1, 2024

Hi @Gerald Harmon 

the majority of all local IP addresses are very similar (my gateway address, for example, is 192.168.0.1 - likely the same as yours, which doesn’t really tell anyone anything). The other common range is 10.0.0.x.

What? No love for the 172.16.0.0 /12 range?

It is really a good option as almost no (none I have seen) consumer devices default to the 172 range on reset so it reduces the chances of conflicting devices / networks.

 

Ken_Griffiths
February 1, 2024

Hi @Gerald Harmon 

the majority of all local IP addresses are very similar (my gateway address, for example, is 192.168.0.1 - likely the same as yours, which doesn’t really tell anyone anything). The other common range is 10.0.0.x.

What? No love for the 172.16.0.0 /12 range?

It is really a good option as almost no (none I have seen) consumer devices default to the 172 range on reset so it reduces the chances of conflicting devices / networks.

Virgin Media an ISP in the U.K. do not allow a user to change the subnet range on their latest routers, it’s fixed to 192.168.0.XXX - users can change the last octet for DHCP allocation, but that’s about all - I just use their device as a modem and have my own router, but it seems like ISP’s here, do not want users to tinker too much with the settings - it’s all becoming quite restrictive. It probably reduces support training and calls into their support system, I guess?

Even DHCP reservation is limited to 16 devices only on their new WiFi 6AX router. 

Airgetlam
February 2, 2024

T-Mobile’s 5G internet solution here in the states doesn’t allow reserved IP addresses, either. My guess is they think it is too dangerous to allow folks to muck around. My guess is there is a small number of folks who actually know what they are doing, and they don’t want to deal with the unwashed masses. 

Bruce