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  • January 11, 2024
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I’ve noticed others with the same problem...so I anticipate the answer may be obsolescence (planned or otherwise), but looking for official support here if possible.

All components have been hardwired and in place for over 5 years (except for the newer connect models, which replaced older connect:amps not supported by S2.

The Diag file number is 2005163756.

Many thanks if someone could review the diagnostics and LMK.

 

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Best answer by Corry P

Hi @Gerald Harmon 

Welcome to the Sonos Community!

Thanks for the diagnostics - your Connect:AMP is experiencing issues with keeping up with the tasks given it. You will most likely experience this issue while playing from some music services, but not while playing others.

None of the mitigation steps I could advise will relate to your setup - the Connect:AMP is not in charge of managing STP for the system at large, it is not providing a network link to any other devices, and you already have both Crossfade and Shuffle disabled.

Although you will probably experience these issues each and every time that you play from specific sources (e.g. Spotify, iHeart Radio, NRK Radio, and, by the looks of the logs, Pandora), you may not experience any issues with playing other sources, including different online services, Line-In or while having the Connect:AMP as part of a group (ensure you do not choose it’s room first, or it will be in charge of group, making things worse).

By owning this device, you are eligible for a 15% discount in our store for any single item or set of multiple items - please log in at https://login.sonos.com, then click the user icon in the top right, then Upgrade. The voucher will be automatically applied to the most expensive item in your basket.

I hope this helps.

 

47 replies

January 31, 2024

the specific hardware fault in this case is related to failing flash memory, a change in how much memory is used, or in how it is used, can change things.

Curious that this failing flash memory issue is not surfacing in Connect Amps running in S1? Or is it just going unreported?

Ken_Griffiths
January 31, 2024

the specific hardware fault in this case is related to failing flash memory, a change in how much memory is used, or in how it is used, can change things.

Curious that this failing flash memory issue is not surfacing in Connect Amps running in S1? Or is it just going unreported?

I read that Staff post differently here and that @Corry P was just referring to this users specific Connect Amp, rather than every device out there. Stating that any forthcoming fix might not resolve their own reported issue, as it appears the device has memory locations that are perhaps ‘already’ marked internally as being unusable. This can apply to S1 or S2 updates, was my thinking - In fact I wonder if the S1/S2 downgrade process might in fact make things even worse with such devices, as I guess that can ‘perhaps’ put additional demand on a devices memory🤔? 

January 31, 2024

Hi @Gerald Harmon 

Having said all that, we're close to releasing an update that fixes certain conditions with older players. I still recommend that you do not get your hopes up, however, as things will still likely vary on a device-by-device basis.


Hi, I appreciate you being up front about this.  But specific hardware failures aside (and this would not be the case for everyone), I don’t see how anything other than restoring the level of  reliability present before your software update would be acceptable here.  If Sonos pushed this update, you are responsible.  I have 3 Connect:Amps that you rendered unreliable.  
Rather than clarify your answer has increased doubts that a viable fix is forthcoming.  Sorry, this not good enough. 
 

andrew 

 

 

January 31, 2024

In fact I wonder if the S1/S2 downgrade process might in fact make things even worse with such devices, as I guess that can ‘perhaps’ put additional demand on a devices memory🤔? 

All muddy water to us on the outside. And while a serious issue for individual users, I would think that the total number of affected Connect Amps - the ones that could and were taken to S2 - is small compared to say play 1 units. I remember reading somewhere that play 3 and play 1 units are also in line to suffer the same issue with S2, and if so it will be a much bigger problem given the numbers of those units out there as compared to Connect Amps. Makes me glad that I stuck to S1 with units whose hardware was meant for S1; and nothing really changes now in S1 for months on end and when it does, it is probably minor tweaks. Reading all these has made me decide to not apply even S1 updates to my 12 Sonos units going forward; I don’t think that the risk of being exposed to new security issues is large enough to risk breaking the units by the next S1 upgrade. Let sleeping dogs lie!

Corry P
Sonos Staff
January 31, 2024

Hi @Kumar 

Curious that this failing flash memory issue is not surfacing in Connect Amps running in S1? Or is it just going unreported?

You seem to be confusing two completely separate issues with each other.

The failed flash memory issue predominantly affects older components that are S1-only devices.

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." - Albert Einstein
Corry P
Sonos Staff
January 31, 2024

Hi @Andrew-s 

Hi, I appreciate you being up front about this.  But specific hardware failures aside (and this would not be the case for everyone), I don’t see how anything other than restoring the level of  reliability present before your software update would be acceptable here.  If Sonos pushed this update, you are responsible.  I have 3 Connect:Amps that you rendered unreliable.  
Rather than clarify your answer has increased doubts that a viable fix is forthcoming.  Sorry, this not good enough. 

You also seem to confusing the two issues that have the same symptoms, rather like @Kumar. I gather your 3 Connect:Amps have been affected more recently? In that case - though I cannot verify without diagnostics - it seems likely to me that, in your case, a fix will be coming soon. The same cannot be said as confidently for @Gerald Harmon, however (whose diagnostics I have seen) as he is affected by a completely different issue. Technically, this makes you off-topic for this thread, but understandably so.

I hope this helps.

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." - Albert Einstein
January 31, 2024

Hi @Kumar 

Curious that this failing flash memory issue is not surfacing in Connect Amps running in S1? Or is it just going unreported?

You seem to be confusing two completely separate issues with each other.

The failed flash memory issue predominantly affects older components that are S1-only devices.


Corry,  you seem not to have understood Kumar’s point.

 

His suggesting that it is somewhat suspicious that Connect:Amp users running S2 are likely being pointed to failing memory as the cause of their issues, as opposed to the update you pushed last year, thus conveniently removing yourselves from any blame.  The number of users with this issue *could* point to many many Connect:Amps suffering memory failure around the same time, but this is unlikely.  It is more likely to be due to your firmware update.  

 

I would have thought his point was obvious. 
Andrew 
 

 

January 31, 2024

Hi @Kumar 

Curious that this failing flash memory issue is not surfacing in Connect Amps running in S1? Or is it just going unreported?

You seem to be confusing two completely separate issues with each other.

The failed flash memory issue predominantly affects older components that are S1-only devices.

I must have erred in thinking that the Gerald issues were in an S2 environment. But your last sentence quoted makes it doubly clear to me that I should shut down all future S1 updates for my system. I don’t want to expose my two Connect Amps that work perfectly, to any S1 update change driven exposure in future. Or any of my other ten units including play 1 units and early years Sub, to such.

Corry P
Sonos Staff
January 31, 2024

Hi @Kumar 

I must have erred in thinking that the Gerald issues were in an S2 environment.

S2 is in use. I did emphasise “predominantly” for a reason.

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." - Albert Einstein
Corry P
Sonos Staff
January 31, 2024

Hi @Gerald Harmon 

Apologies - there was in fact a Service Pack release for S2 last week (on the 24th), but a typo led me to believe otherwise. I can’t find any information on what it addressed, but as a Service Pack, it would not have been a great deal.

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." - Albert Einstein