Cannot see group in device list help

Perhaps see if this link helps - the groups you create are shown at the top of the ‘grouping’ page in the App (next to the ‘Everywhere’ group):

https://support.sonos.com/s/article/3391

Make sure these ‘groups’ you’re setting up are in the Sonos software. Sonos can’t ‘see’ groups set up in  Amazon or Google’s software. 

Hi Ken

Thanks Ken but that doesn't answer my question.

Groups should appear in device lists in other apps like spotify. 

If they don't I will have to open the sonos app every time I want to play something on a group. That doesn't seem right. 

Airgetlam

They are set up in the sonos app. Like I said, no problem. 

The problem is that I can't see the groups in spotify etc. 

It’s probably a case that the ‘Connect’ software and/or Sonos API hasn’t caught up with the Sonos grouping features yet - so I guess it needs to go forward as a ‘feature request’- the Staff here usually pick up such suggestions and pass it along to the Dev Team to consider. I’ve not seen that much call for it, but would like to see these things put in place too.

This seems to me an impossible request. I cannot conceive of any way that Sonos could do this, and probably not Spotify either. 

Spotify Connect can detect devices that are Spotify Connect enabled. User defined groups are effectively just shortcut buttons for adding specified speakers to temporary groups in Sonos and don't exist in any form that Spotify can detect.

These groups don't appear in device lists because they aren't devices.

This request makes no sense to me and my money says it will never happen and probably can never happen 

Same problem- frankly for the cost of Sonos and being a well established product they should be able to make the groups you create in the App visible in Spotify or other mainstream apps.  People here seem so defensive of Sonos when there’s a clear lack of function! When you think of how many people are playing Spotify through Sonos it shouldn’t be too much to ask - it’s a bit of API work not rocket science!

Wow, you very obviously have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. Sonos already offers pairing for speakers in the same room, and Spotify already DOES connect to user-defined groups from other apps (eg. Google Home groups). I use both of these features with no issues, and I connect to them through the “devices” list.

As a developer that works heavily with APIs and device connections, this request makes perfect sense and is absolutely doable. Whether or not they have the bandwidth to add the functionality is another story.

All of that said, I am also facing this issue now and it’s rather frustrating.

@ZeeJay Sorry but it is you.who are clueless on this topic in a Sonos context. A stereo pair isn't a group at all but is treated as a room by Sonos and so of course can be picked up by other apps.

I was talking specifically about named user defined groups and I was completely correct in saying that they are just shortcut button presses. Grouping in Sonos is treated as a flexible, on the fly. temporary arrangement. Not so in Alexa, for example..

Paradoxically. you can set up Alexa groups of Sonos speakers (or more accurately rooms) and use them to group Sonos rooms, to some extent. 

@John B is correct.  Sonos groups are nothing but macros that auto select the rooms on the grouping screen.  For Spotify to recognize a macro the same way it recognizes a stereo paired room would be a magical act indeed.