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July 20, 2024
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Before I Buy Port to Go with Older Receiver

  • July 20, 2024
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I have an existing Sonos system with a Beam (Gen 1) and two separate Play:1 speakers.

I have 3 old receivers. I would like to integrate any 2 of them with 2 Ports in 2 independent stereo systems with wired speakers. There appears to be no way to add an attachment of PDF spec sheets here. Receivers are:

2002 Harman Kardon HK 3375 stereo-definitely has tape in/out

2002 Denon AVR-3802 7-channel-think has tape in/out

2010 Onkyo TX-NR708 7-channel-don’t think has tape in/out but not sure

From another thread @smghifiguy said:

“Yes, a Sonos Port will plug into ANY receiver (just like a CD player will).  However, without “Works With Sonos” means that in order to adjust volume for that Room, you either mess with 2 volume controls (receiver and app) or “fix” the volume on the Sonos and only use the receiver volume.”

Can I also fix the volume on the receiver and adjust volume from the Android app? I can live with that? 

I see in some other threads an issue with latency delays in some receivers. Would that apply to any of my listed receivers? Any other items I need to be concerned with before buying 2 Ports? Thanks.

 

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buzz
Grand Maestro
July 21, 2024

At the risk of stating the obvious, watts are measured using a logarithmic scale which means that 125 is not actually that much louder that 60.

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At the risk of being pedantic, the power in watts is linear, it’s the human response to sound pressure level is somewhat logarithmic. 120w is twice as much energy as 60w, but the human does not claim “twice” as loud. For many listeners, depending on the material playing, the difference in loudness is barely perceptible.

Certainly, if you give a 60w amplifier a 120w job, the 60w device will grossly distort and the human is sensitive to this.

We have been conditioned to equate distorted with “loud”. To many listeners a 60w amplifier attempting to execute a 90w job will sound louder than a 120w amplifier executing the same job.

In my college apartment we could run at levels that made verbal communication very difficult, but the sound was clean. We’d have guests yell (hands cupped around their mouth) in our ear, “Turn it up”, because it did not seem “loud” yet. That same crew of listeners in another apartment, playing a cheap compact system, pushed well beyond the gross distortion level, was accepted as “loud”. Conversation was easy.