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October 7, 2007

Zp 24/96

  • October 7, 2007
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Ability to play 24bit/96 files (like the competition: slimdevices transporter)
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    Lyricist I
    March 18, 2015
    Care to post the market analysis which proves this seemingly unintuitive statement? If "24/96 is a must" why isn't it sold by Amazon or Apple, the two largest sellers of digital music in the world?

    Seriously? That's like saying that a Michelin star restaurant shouldn't carry Dom Pérignon because TGI Friday's doesn't have it. This is where audiophiles are going and I THOUGHT Sonos wanted to cater to that market. I'd venture a guess that most people who blindly download whatever quality digital files iTunes is feeding them are just as happy to listen to said files on their phone with a crappy pair of earbuds...
    buzz
    Grand Maestro
    March 18, 2015
    bluefooted,

    I don't think that SONOS is or ever was attempting to capture the audiophile market. While very noisy, the audiophile market is not huge. The lifetime earnings of many of the very successful audiophile companies is a fraction of the annual earnings of SONOS.

    Really, at this point 24/192 is a "me too" resolution. 24/384 or 32/384 used in the studios is more leading edge.
    jgatie
    March 18, 2015
    Seriously? That's like saying that a Michelin star restaurant shouldn't carry Dom Pérignon because TGI Friday's doesn't have it. This is where audiophiles are going and I THOUGHT Sonos wanted to cater to that market. I'd venture a guess that most people who blindly download whatever quality digital files iTunes is feeding them are just as happy to listen to said files on their phone with a crappy pair of earbuds...

    The OP stated that "24/96 is a must." I assume "a must" means Sonos must support it in order to survive. However, since 24/96 caters to a small, elite, and finicky market, then by very definition it is not "a must." If it were "a must" for a company to survive, then it would be available from a larger number of music sources. A better analogy would be why would anyone say it is "a must" for TGI Fridays to carry Dom Pérignon?

    PS - I find it hilarious that a short time ago an unfounded rumor was passing through this thread that Apple was getting into the hires music business. It was stated that this move legitimizes the hires music market. Now that the rumor has fizzled out, me mentioning that hires isn't "a must" or it would be sold by Amazon and Apple is being scoffed at. And around and around we go!
    Lyricist III
    March 21, 2015
    Nothing is "a must" in audio. We all like what we like regardless. If your unhappy with Sonos and it's lack of higher rez performance then jump ship to another manufacturer that does. Pretty simple really. Sonos will only get that message if enough people start looking elsewhere.

    Sonos used to be a leading edge product but seem completely content to let others catch up and surpass it. As much as I like Sonos, if a product doesn't evolve it will eventually go the way of your old VHS player.
    jgatie
    March 21, 2015
    Nothing is "a must" in audio. We all like what we like regardless. If your unhappy with Sonos and it's lack of higher rez performance then jump ship to another manufacturer that does. Pretty simple really. Sonos will only get that message if enough people start looking elsewhere.

    Sonos used to be a leading edge product but seem completely content to let others catch up and surpass it. As much as I like Sonos, if a product doesn't evolve it will eventually go the way of your old VHS player.



    We've had people in this very thread threatening to leave Sonos because of no hires for going on 7 years, and they are still here ******** about it. If only they would follow through on their threats, we'd finally be free of their pseudo-science nonsense.
    Lyricist III
    March 22, 2015
    We've had people in this very thread threatening to leave Sonos because of no hires for going on 7 years, and they are still here ******** about it. If only they would follow through on their threats, we'd finally be free of their pseudo-science nonsense.

    LOL.....pseudo-science nonsense. That's politically correct for "closed mind' isn't it ? If we were to talk pseudo-science nonsense, I think Global warming is a better option than audio.
    ratty
    March 22, 2015
    If we were to talk pseudo-science nonsense, I think Global warming is a better option than audio.
    By the commonly accepted standards of peer reviewed science the debate about man-made climate change is over. It's here, populations are starting to suffer the consequences, and left unchecked it will cause mass migration and make large parts of the planet incompatible with human life.

    Leaving aside the absurd comparison of a potential Extinction Event to a decidedly First World issue, perhaps you're simply saying that hi-res audio's alleged benefits are espoused by an even smaller percentage of the population than the 3% of climate science denialists? I'd probably agree with you there.
    jgatie
    March 22, 2015
    LOL.....pseudo-science nonsense. That's politically correct for "closed mind' isn't it ? If we were to talk pseudo-science nonsense, I think Global warming is a better option than audio.

    No, "closed minded" describes those who hear all the scientific reasons why something is so and still believe in fairy tales. My side says "prove it and I'll believe it". Your side says "I don't have to prove it, I know it is true despite defying the rules of science, and nothing you or anyone else says will convince me otherwise!"

    So tell me again whose mind is closed?
    Lyricist III
    March 26, 2015
    Closed minds frequently require proof in written form. Open minds tend to try things for themselves without others opinions or reading stuff on the internet.

    Since you bring up science so often, where would science be if they didn't explore outside the box ? If they didn't experiment ? That's the road to discovery my friend, experiment....you may find some of your closely held opinions may be mute.
    Avid Contributor I
    March 26, 2015
    Open minds tend to try things for themselves without others opinions or reading stuff on the internet.

    Huh? You're saying an open mind will ignore anything that's not already in their head? Are you sure you haven't got that the wrong way round? Your definition does make sense when you replace "open" with "closed".


    Since you bring up science so often, where would science be if they didn't explore outside the box ? If they didn't experiment ? That's the road to discovery my friend, experiment....you may find some of your closely held opinions may be mute.


    Sure, this is very true - but it's exactly an argument AGAINST your point. Scientific experiments have so far shown that 24/96 does not make sense for home hifi equipment/listeners. This may change, and though many doubt it will, no scientist will preclude this with absolute certainty - that's what makes them open-minded, and I'm quite sure jgatie, ratty etc. will be with me here.