Zp 24/96

Promise?

Unfortunately, history says otherwise. :rolleyes:

Ok. As a matter of interest I am able to "transcode" the files (on the fly even)... real time from the UPnP server running my library on a tiny little NAS..so now Sonos customers who want to play these files can transcode their files as they leave the library in real time to go out over their networks from 24bit>16 bit.. No problem... this would be acceptable to me.. but how to get this working??? Becasue guess what? I can't seem to find away of pointing Sonos to a separate UPnP server... :)

Sonos has generally poor support for UPnP servers. Don't ask me why. I wish it was otherwise too, but that is the current situation.

All the UPnP server is doing is advertising your files for media players, such as your TV, but not your Sonos sadly.

Sonos finds and indexes (sort of) your files independantly.

You could create a transcoded version of your high res files into a share that Sonos can see. That can be outside your UPnP server. There are many tools that would do this for you. dBpoweramp and MediaMonkey are two in the Windows environment.

On MediaMonkey, you select the album, then Tools|ConvertFormat.
Select a destination. Set format to flac, or whatever, then set bitrate etc via the settings button underneath.

^ What?

So an easy way can't be found to simply switch on Sonos to share an independent UPnP server?


Easy enough. Go download BubbleUPnP from Google Play, install it on your 'droid device. It can talk to your UPnP server, and to any of your Sonos devices. Select your transcoded UPnP source, select your Sonos device, click Play. Done. It will cost you $4.69.

http://chicksolutions.com/ak/Sonos/Screenshot_2014-06-06-22-48-39.png

Easy enough. Go download BubbleUPnP from Google Play, install it on your 'droid device. It can talk to your UPnP server, and to any of your Sonos devices. Select your transcoded UPnP source, select your Sonos device, click Play. Done. It will cost you $4.69.

Since I don't understand the tech so well, perhaps a stupid question:
If you did as above, would it not impose a stress on Sonosnet, by virtue of much more information loaded hi res content being streamed around, causing failures elsewhere?
Ahh, I notice the word transcoded - that means down sampled to Sonos compatible code? On the fly?

Yep, transcoded on the fly by his server/NAS to some format Sonos can render.

Yep, transcoded on the fly by his server/NAS to some format Sonos can render.
If this is so easy - and cheap - why is there so much heat here about this subject?

If this is so easy - and cheap - why is there so much heat here about this subject?

I am shocked you can't see why:

It's because it drags eyeballs and customer use AWAY FROM THE SONOS controller environment to a third party UPnP Control point like bubbleupnp..

Does Sono seriously want this to happen, when 90% of their product experience therefore sales is about THEIR (Sonos) software?

That's why I am astounded they aren't treating this seriously and providing this within their OWN software GUI and platform....

I am shocked you can't see why:

It's because it drags eyeballs and customer use AWAY FROM THE SONOS controller environment to a third party UPnP Control point like bubbleupnp..


Oh, you should not be shocked, once you know that I am in the camp that does not believe in the merits of 24/96. Just seems to me that if there is an easy workaround available for those people who Sonos has chosen not to serve, why not use it and get on with life?

Guys, can we calm down here please. It's getting a bit silly on all sides.

Keith

I am shocked you can't see why:

It's because it drags eyeballs and customer use AWAY FROM THE SONOS controller environment to a third party UPnP Control point like bubbleupnp..

Does Sono seriously want this to happen, when 90% of their product experience therefore sales is about THEIR (Sonos) software?

That's why I am astounded they aren't treating this seriously and providing this within their OWN software GUI and platform....
I can't think why it would make any kind of business sense for Sonos to support DLNA based on the needs of a small minority (who refuse to do a one-time transcode), of a small minority (the hi-res believers), of what could well be a minority (those with lossless libraries).

In fact users with local libraries of any format probably represent a diminishing share of Sonos' new customers, who increasingly pull all their music from the Internet.

There may be arguments for Sonos supporting DLNA servers for other reasons, such as to address the old 65k track issue, but not for on-the-fly hi-res transcode.