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Oct 7, 2007 10:52 AM UTC

Zp 24/96

Ability to play 24bit/96 files (like the competition: slimdevices transporter)
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    Contributor I
    Feb 17, 2014 6:18 AM UTC
    I'm using the sonos connect now for a year with great pleasur but I noticed that à sonos moderator redirected someome to this post to give the 24bit playable music option à +1.....

    Here is my +2 and à comment about the fact that there is since 2007!!!! still no support on 24 bit files....

    How about updating the sonos range guys!!

    Or will 24bit files maybe point out that the internal sonos dac isn't so forgiving for thes hi res files?! And it will sound crap?

    No idea but it would be nice to make a change for the better Sonos
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    ratty
    Feb 17, 2014 9:29 AM UTC
    How about updating the sonos range guys!!
    Sonos have ruled it out for now. If you have the stamina, read this thread though.

    I'll help you by pointing you to a piece from experts in digital audio which sets out the scientific/technical arguments.
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    Avid Contributor I
    Jun 8, 2014 1:23 AM UTC
    As the original starter of this thread, let me say, Sonos still doesn't get this. You never have.

    It's NEVER been about whether it is possible one can hear the difference between 16 bit and 24 bit tracks.

    They could be physically exactly the same.

    It is completely irrelevant what you, Neil Young, Steve Jobs, Wikipedia, President Obama, Opera Whinfrey, so called "digital audio experts", Albert Einstein, The man with the most acute hearing ever discovered, me, you JGatie, or you ratty, or The man on the moon, or anyone else thinks if there is any difference..

    It is *totally* irrelevant.

    That is *not* the point.

    The point is the formats and tracks exist and your customers therefore want to play them

    Stop telling your customers what they should and shouldn't do... It's none of your business what files customers might want to play. Your business is to help them play them 🙂

    Geeeeeeeezzz
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    Jun 8, 2014 2:07 AM UTC

    Stop telling your customers what they should and shouldn't do... It's none of your business what files customers might want to play. Your business is to help them play them 🙂

    On the other hand, Sonos is perfectly within its rights to choose which customers/markets it wants to address, and unfortunately for you, up to this point in time, you and a few others are excluded. Probably because there are too few of you to be of interest to Sonos at this time.
    But nice try in keeping this ancient thread alive:).
    PS: I see that this thread is almost 7 years old. And Sonos has still not seen it fit to address this need. Does that not give a hint about how Sonos has decided to position itself as well as about the size/growth of the Hi res music market?
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    chicks
    Jun 8, 2014 3:56 AM UTC

    It is *totally* irrelevant.

    That is *not* the point.

    The point is the formats and tracks exist and your customers therefore want to play them


    The point is they exist for purely marketing reasons, so that "high end" manufacturers can create a market for their unneccesary products through FUD, and so that audiophools will repurchase music yet again, at inflated prices. Thankfully, Sonos has thus far been able to resist this unscientific hokum. Doesn't appear to be hurting sales. 😉
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    NoBoB
    Jun 8, 2014 6:09 AM UTC
    Stop...

    Yes. Stop.

    It's not planned. They're not doing it. It doesn't matter why.

    Either transcode the files to 16/44 -- and that is where the inaudibility applies, whether you like it or not -- or begin migrating to a system that can play these alleged hi-rez files. One of those options is practical and fairly inexpensive. The other, drastic and expensive.

    Just stop whining about it.
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    ratty
    Jun 8, 2014 11:24 AM UTC
    The point is the formats and tracks exist and your customers therefore want to play them

    Stop telling your customers what they should and shouldn't do... It's none of your business what files customers might want to play. Your business is to help them play them

    No it's not. Those formats require up to 6 times the per-stream bandwidth of 16/44. SonosNet wasn't built to accommodate it.

    Why should Sonos break their existing architecture just to service the needs of those reluctant to transcode once at the point of storage, and who instead insist that Sonos carts huge files around and downconverts them every time they're played.

    It makes no sense, and Sonos have thankfully drawn a line under the matter.
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    jgatie
    Jun 8, 2014 3:49 PM UTC
    Oooooh, somebody saw the Denon thread, where it was revealed they don't support hires! And by the way, I've fully admitted my hearing is deteriorated due to attendance at punk shows in my youth. That's why I rely on science to tell me reality, because I really don't "trust my ears".
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    Jun 9, 2014 2:03 AM UTC
    I think this thread should be a sticky. All the controversy in one place, duly highlighted by that action.
    It will also prevent other threads on the subject from being written.
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    ratty
    Jun 9, 2014 7:50 AM UTC
    I think this thread should be a sticky.
    It doesn't really need to be. True believers have probably subscribed to the thread anyhow.

    We rarely get anyone raising the issue afresh on a new thread. Most go and vent on the "not planned" request thread at ask.sonos.
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