Zp 24/96

The following mods are available....

Cullen Curcuits...Basically a hardware upsampler board mod. Turns a ZP90's output to 24/96 or

Empirical Audio. Jitter reduction mod. Used with their pacecar. Keeps it a 44.1 hz.

I have one of each.:)

This is the kind of capability I'm looking for. I'm posting so Sonos can get an idea of the facilities that people need.
I am looking for something that will stream 24/192 files. It needs to be able to stream from my NAS over a wired network (wiring it up is my problem 🙂. I need it to pass the streamed music out through the digital out to my DAC. I need a small footprint and I'd like a convenient, portable and downright nice controller for it (hence my interest in Sonos).
Anything else is a bonus but if there's a Sonos unit that comes out with those features then I have my money in hand too.
Womble

P.S. Why 24/192? Because I am digitising my vinyl for convenience listening and doing it at the best quality possible and I will buy the best quality downloads too for that near-vinyl sound.

Looking back...I first posted this thread in Oct 07....that's nearly 2 years ago! In such a fast moving world, a lot has changed in 2 years!

I thought that considering Sonos is specialising in Audio distribution, that offering the best digital audio quality available would be an absolute given! I mean that is their market. Their gear is sold in hifi shops...not computer and electrical stores for goodness sake...

But that is the quandry you find yourself in all the time. Alas, the trials and tribulations of being a Sonos customer!

On the one hand you love their platform. How easy it is to use. The ability to play multiple different sources and tracks in multiple zones...all at the same time. What a sinch it is to add and move zones. The simplicity of the control and interface. The fantastic itunes integration.

On the other hand you are pulling your hair out. The lack of high res support. The lack of integration into other systems. No IR control. The false impressions left about subscription based music distributors in some parts of the world. The absence of features like a PC zone that customers cry out for. The stone walled silence about product upgrades.....

But I guess that's what love is. You don't necessarily have to agree all the time to be in love....and yes as sad as it is to say ('cause it's only a piece of technology)...it IS definitely possible to fall in love with Sonos!

^^^
+1

Could not have said it any better :D;)

And now the competition is getting even harder. Logitech launches a new Squezeebox with the ability to play 24/96:

Logitech® Squeezebox™ Touch

http://gizmodo.com/5301365/logitechs-squeezebox-touch-is-coming-with-touchscreen

Audio formats:
• MP3, FLAC, WAV, AIFF, WMA, Ogg Vorbis, AAC, Apple Lossless
• WMA Lossless, APE, MPC and WavPack supported through transcoding
• Some formats may require additional software installation Internet radio
• Support for MP3, Ogg Vorbis, and WMA formatted Internet Radio streams

Wireless interface
• True 802.11g wireless networking
• Support for 802.11b and 802.11g routers and access points
• One-touch setup (with compatible WPS-supporting routers)
• Supports WPA Personal, WPA-2AES, and 64/128-bit WEP encryption Ethernet interface
• Connects to any 100 Mbps or 10 Mbps network (with Auto MDX)

General:
• USB host connector for accessing music and photos via USB drive or USB key
• SD card slot for music and photos
• Supports sampling rates up to 24 bit / 96 kHz
• Stereo analog (RCA), headphone jack, digital optical, and digital coax output
• 4.3-inch 24-bit color LCD with capacitive touch screen
• Ambient light sensor to adjust display brightness according to environment
• Infrared proximity sensor to detect presence

And now the competition is getting even harder. Logitech launches a new Squezeebox with the ability to play 24/96...

Plus the new Cisco system launched at CES is also higher rez. Am sure Sonos is working on this and look forward to new hardware coming out soon. Hopefully 24-bit/192kHz.

Plus the new Cisco system launched at CES is also higher rez.

Err, is it?

The spec. sheet for this shows it as up to 48kHz (same as Sonos) and their published THD+N specs for their unit are such that it would be pointless supporting 24-bit formats (which, as I understand it, they don't anyway) as the additional bits would be lost in the noise floor.

Cheers,

Keith

I read a good on-line article on bit depth and sampling frequency, if I can find the link again I'll post it. Any way up, the noise floor was calculated to be around 20 bits which means that although 24 bits is beyond the floor, 16 bits is way above the floor and hence the valid reason for 24 bit samples. Of course different systems will have different noise floors but I'd be pretty horrified if my system was so noisy that 4 bits of resolution would not be missed - assuming the article is right of course.

I'm not sure that we always appreciate all of the implications of "the noise floor". Certainly for the purpose of fussing with our signal processing algorithms, there are boundaries, however, mammals can follow signals well into the noise. Observe the mother who will hear her infant's cry under impossibly noisy conditions.

i have stated on several forums for a long time that no one has been able to put together the complete package and i'm not sure why. it doesn't seem to be cost prohibitive, would make your unit 'future proof' and would give you real credibility in the audiophile circles. doesn't matter to most listeners? perhaps, but logitech really gained a lot of support for their full line of products when they put out their transporter, even if it was just a 'trickle down' effect by people that didn't buy a transporter. i think most people that care about sound quality think higher of logitech products than sonos products. it's good P.R.! anyways, the total package:

1. wireless
2. all major file types supported, including lossless
3. hi - rez capable
4. affordable

i just sold my squeezebox setup to switch to sonos - love the design, the interface, the fact my wife can figure it out. but the hi-rez support of the new logitech touch may be a game changer for me.