Zp 24/96

Wow. It's pretty outrageous to delete as "pointless and grossly inaccurate personal criticism" a posting containing the following text:

It's no surprise to me that, once again, you have deliberately and carefully selected quotes in an attempt to discredit me. I realise this is part of a personal vendetta that you and gman have against me, but others may not.

For their benefit: the original post attributed a quote to me that I did not make and then criticised me for it. If I had made that quote then the criticism would have been fair. However, I didn't. thniels made it up.

The criticism was of not being civil, but I see nothing in my post which could qualify for this. I didn't post anything defamatory, critical, or even particularly controversial. I really cannot understand how my post could have been considered "uncivil", even when considered through the highly coloured eyes of people like Ianmacd, gman and a couple of others who use "being a moderator" enough of a reason to criticise me at every opportunity in lieu of actually having credible arguments against my opinions.

So thniels posted a quote I didn't make, accused me of behaviour I didn't exhibit, and completely ignored the actual content of my post in order to have a rant and to throw out accusations.

If this isn't "pointless and grossly inaccurate personal criticism" then I struggle to think what is.

But, once again Ianmacd springs to defend the indefensible simply because it yields the opportunity to take a carefully crafted pot-shot at me. I find it slightly ironic that someone who recently aimed the words "petulant and childish" at another user in [thread=24453]a recent thread[/thread] feels the need to criticise my civility.

Ian, you have a track record of escalating arguments to the point where we have to shut threads and start handing out bans to people to cool off. We don't like doing this.

Recently I am, in particular, being less tolerant of people who have a history of causing problems on these forums. It is a very small group, and you are one of them. Even recently you have got very close to the line in the thread I mention above and, once again, this escalated into an argument and ended up with the thread being closed and another user getting a short ban. In this case the other user stepped over the line, but it takes two to cause a fight and you are so often one of them.

I will close by warning you, this is not a debate. I do not expect a response and will take a very dim view of further off-topic posts on this thread.

Keith

Fwiw the New Wilco album sounds amazing in 24/96.. and yes it sounds better than the down sampled version I also have.. but even the 16/44 is a really good recording and of course what really matters is the music and it's a great album 🙂

The latter is already possible. Many generic UPnP controllers can control Sonos, and there are libraries for development and plugins for tools like Homeseer.

Cheers,

Keith

I use a Control4 one very successfully....

No.

Squeezebox comes close in terms of feature set, but doesn't have reliable enough synchronisation for multi-room use, and that's something I use quite a bit.

On the other hand, it is without many of the other annoying limitations that Sonos has. If I were forced to live with the worst of these, such as the 65k track limit, I probably would have started to seriously evaluate whether I wouldn't be better off living with Squeezebox's limitations instead, but I'm happy to have found tolerable workarounds for the most critical shortcomings. Everything else falls into the tolerable shortcoming category.

It's also worth pointing out that my needs have grown over the years that I have had Sonos. It was perfectly adequate for my needs when I first purchased Sonos equipment five years ago, but those needs have not remained static. Over the years, my collection has grown beyond what the Sonos can natively track and serve, streaming services such as Spotify have arrived on the scene in Europe, and I now draw music from a much wider variety of sources than I used to.

In that regard, the Sonos is somewhat a victim of its own success. It has made the consumption of music so easy, that I am now much more actively purchasing and listening to music than I was a few years ago. My ownership of Sonos has directly influenced my requirements of the system to the point that they now outstrip what the system can deliver.

That said, I still love the system. I can't think of many other purchases, apart from a bed and a coffee machine, that I use daily and derive so much enjoyment from.

That said, my bed and coffee machine do all that I expect of them, but the Sonos could be so much better than it is. Its slow, closed development model is particularly frustrating, with some of the system's worst annoyances not having been addressed after years of user complaints in forum threads spanning tens of pages. I don't need to name them here.

In short, there is much that is good about Sonos and quite a few things that are not. Whilst it's frustrating to see firmware release cycles come and go without many of these long-term niggles ever being addressed or even discussed by the company, no-one else has yet produced a system that can compete when all of the pros and cons are weighed against each other. That's a situation that won't persist forever, of course.

As far as hi-res is concerned, I don't get involved in the audible difference argument. I would like to play hi-res files, just because I have some and because more and more music will be offered in these formats in the future, making for the prospect of ever greater inconvenience in having a system that doesn't support them.

It's nice to see I'm not the only one out there with exactly the same history with the product, the same no of zones, and an ongoing love for it. And the same frustrations 🙂

Okay, not going to pretend to have read the whole of this thread (got a bit dull after ~5 pages :rolleyes:), but I will add a +1 to requesting 24/96 playback capability. More LPs are being released with 24/96 downloads, I'd like to be able to play them 🙂.

Please add me to the 24/96 wish list.
I purchased an Oppo-95 specifically to play "hi-def" content (physical media + UPnP/DLNA) of which I have a lot of, and when I buy recordings is generally the #1 factor WRT the purchase of either the DL-content or media. A good portion of this $ *could* have been spent on Sonos gear.

Cheers,
Frank
ZP90, ZP120, Oppo-95, 10T OpenIndiana NAS

I'm another Sonos owner who would love to see support for 24/96 or other higher resolution formats. If there was a new Zone Player that offered higher performance I would certainly buy one for my main system as my outboard DAC can handle it. I would have picked up the recent Tom Petty and Wings releases in hi-res if I could have played them. This feature was the one downside to going with Sonos over Squeezebox but I made that choice because I wanted an easy to use system for the other people in my family and Sonos provided that.

+1 on this request!

Jethro Tull Aqualung in 24/96 sounds awesome..

Still waiting for the support...

They're losing customers with this, but apparently they still have enough of them to keep discarding this request.