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Why can't I just use you like any other speakers?

Forum|Forum|10 years ago
December 26, 2015
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So it's Boxing day, and I've just received a lovely big SONOS Play:1 speaker for Christmas. I set the speakers up and try to find them on my system. Nothing.

I do some research, trying to figure out why I can only play through SONOS app and verified programmes approved through the SONOS app.

Why something which clearly cost more than a few pretty pennies is essentially useless for anything other than playing music.

No live sound, no video sync, nothing but music through SONOS.

So the decrepit old speakers I have had since 2000 are essentially doing a better job than the basic model of SONOS. Not only this but my cheap shower bluetooth speaker I bought for my boyfriend (£5.99) can do what this supposedly amazing modern and high quality technology cannot. Which is play ANY sound off of my computer or phone that I want it to.

How is this a complicated concept and why, after literally years and years of community comments and wailings and clearly strong customer dissatisfaction haven't you developed a simple software fix for this? What, you can play my music at the highest sound level ever but can't handle a simple YouTube video? What kind of operation are you running? Please for the love of all things good and pure and sound related, just fix this issue. I don't think I've ever had more issue with such a supposedly 'amazing' product before. If Bluetooth is such a low quality sound how come they can do what you can't?

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castalla

Local Superstar

Oh, and easy access to millions and millions of tracks via inexpensive subscriptions. Haven't used the NAS in a long time...

You can do that wih LMS also .... and moreover you get coherent access to BBC listen again material, if that floats your boat.

It's the courageous bee's knees - all 6 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝. - - - - - Make Sonos Great Again - - - - -

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Astra9

Lyricist III

Oh, and easy access to millions and millions of tracks via inexpensive subscriptions. Haven't used the NAS in a long time...

You can do that wih LMS also .... and moreover you get coherent access to BBC listen again material, if that floats your boat.

Hey Castalla. Thanks for the posts. Is there LMS friendly hardware that you would recommend, and if not what kind of hoops do I have to jump to make Sonos friendly with an LMS set up? Any LMS controller applications for Android, Windows and/or Linux would you recommend? I can run the server on a dedicated box or on a NAS.

jgatie

Don't worry buddy, didn't I mention that you already won? I was just quoting chicks. I hope I didn't hurt your feelings. I'm just so stupid y'know. Stupid me.

Just when I thought you couldn't get any more juvenile than "fanboy" and "minion", you outdo yourself with passive-aggressive. Well done! Next I assume will be " Neener neener, boo boo!"?

chicks

Getting to be as much fun as the High Rez thread!

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Astra9

Lyricist III

Dude, at least finish the line. Jesus. Do I have to do all the work here?

"Neener neener, boo boo
Stick your head in doo doo"

Good. Glad we got that out of the way.

I mean, if millions of satisfied customers are laughing heartily at me and my friends as was pointed out, I might as well play the role I've been told right?

We now continue with our scheduled Sonos Evangelist programming.

jgatie

Getting to be as much fun as the High Rez thread!

With about as much touch with reality.

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castalla

Local Superstar

Oh, and easy access to millions and millions of tracks via inexpensive subscriptions. Haven't used the NAS in a long time...

You can do that wih LMS also .... and moreover you get coherent access to BBC listen again material, if that floats your boat.

Hey Castalla. Thanks for the posts. Is there LMS friendly hardware that you would recommend, and if not what kind of hoops do I have to jump to make Sonos friendly with an LMS set up? Any LMS controller applications for Android, Windows and/or Linux would you recommend? I can run the server on a dedicated box or on a NAS.

You need to install LMS on a PC (Windows, Linux or Mac), or on certain NAS models. This gives you a basic system. It will run on win7 to win10, various linux, MacOS. You can use a Raspi as a cheap server, or upwards.

You extend this by use of plugins (eg. Tunein, Deezer, etc.). Now for the Sonos integration - this is via special UPnP plugin - once it's set up (easy as there's a off-the-shelf config for Sonos), the Sonos device is seen as a squeezebox player by LMS.

Control is via a browser based GUI, or smartphone remotes such as iPeng, Squeeze Control, etc. Logitech Controller is free but only works on android 4 and below.

You can pair Sonos devices as one player - you can't synchronise.

The steepest learning curve is setting up LMS as you want it - you use the browser-based GUI both as the setup screen (on a PC) and as the initial controller.

You can switch back to Sonos control and services simply by changing the controller (Sonos vs. LMS).

A quick trial route is to install LMS on a Windows PC - explore .... The 'Sonos' plugin is called UPNPBridge - it's one of the standard LMS plugins.

Contact me by PM if you want further advice.

It's the courageous bee's knees - all 6 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝. - - - - - Make Sonos Great Again - - - - -

chicks

I guess I just don't get why people feel it's necessary to DEMAND that Sonos change to meet their, usually very narrow, requirement. Isn't it obvious to them that Sonos has considered their requirement, found that it won't help sales, or is simpy not a good fit for whatever reason? I sure don't go over to the Bose or whatever forums to demand that they improve their product to match Sonos, since I don't own any Bose products (and never will). Whatever.

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Astra9

Lyricist III

Oh, and easy access to millions and millions of tracks via inexpensive subscriptions. Haven't used the NAS in a long time...

You can do that wih LMS also .... and moreover you get coherent access to BBC listen again material, if that floats your boat.

Hey Castalla. Thanks for the posts. Is there LMS friendly hardware that you would recommend, and if not what kind of hoops do I have to jump to make Sonos friendly with an LMS set up? Any LMS controller applications for Android, Windows and/or Linux would you recommend? I can run the server on a dedicated box or on a NAS.

You need to install LMS on a PC (Windows, Linux or Mac), or on certain NAS models. This gives you a basic system. It will run on win7 to win10, various linux, MacOS. You can use a Raspi as a cheap server, or upwards.

You extend this by use of plugins (eg. Tunein, Deezer, etc.). Now for the Sonos integration - this is via special UPnP plugin - once it's set up (easy as there's a off-the-shelf config for Sonos), the Sonos device is seen as a squeezebox player by LMS.

Control is via a browser based GUI, or smartphone remotes such as iPeng, Squeeze Control, etc. Logitech Controller is free but only works on android 4 and below.

You can pair Sonos devices as one player - you can't synchronise.

The steepest learning curve is setting up LMS as you want it - you use the browser-based GUI both as the setup screen (on a PC) and as the initial controller.

You can switch back to Sonos control and services simply by changing the controller (Sonos vs. LMS).

A quick trial route is to install LMS on a Windows PC - explore .... The 'Sonos' plugin is called UPNPBridge - it's one of the standard LMS plugins.

Contact me by PM if you want further advice.

Thanks castalla. I'll be in touch!

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jdag

Prodigy III

I guess I just don't get why people feel it's necessary to DEMAND that Sonos change to meet their, usually very narrow, requirement. Isn't it obvious to them that Sonos has considered their requirement, found that it won't help sales, or is simpy not a good fit for whatever reason? I sure don't go over to the Bose or whatever forums to demand that they improve their product to match Sonos, since I don't own any Bose products (and never will). Whatever.

Fully agree.

Whether it is on this forum, Reddit, MacRumors, or elsewhere, the vast vast vast majority of complaints against Sonos comes down to what it does NOT offer (secondarily that "Sonos is ridiculously priced", normally by people comparing Sonos to a $30 BT speaker).

People will pass over the virtues of wireless whole-home audio, stable wireless performance, excellent sound, well-made hardware, etc. Yet complain to no end about the fact that Sonos "purposely ignores its customers" by not offering bluetooth, Chromecast, AirPlay, etc.

Sonos does not support bluetooth, Chromecast, AirPlay, etc. because they choose not to. If that does not fit your intended use, then you should look to other solutions that align better. Hey, you can't use iOS apps on an Android phone, and you can't use Android apps on an iPhone. That's how it works.

Now I need to head outside to snow blow my driveway with my lawn mower. Oh wait, I can't do that because my John Deere tractor can't snow blow unless I "add a workaround". I guess I better complain on the John Deere boards!

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