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Headliner I
August 17, 2020
Question

Sony WH-1000XM4 Wifi Headphones & Connect Amp & TV

  • August 17, 2020
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Afternoon all, read few older posts on similar subject but I have a slightly different angle on the question I think.

Have a gym (in garage) with a Sonos Connect Amp, A Panasonic TV RCA linked to the Sonos & a pair of B&W 801’s which have done great service over the years when doing rowing etc.

But new neighbour objects to the noise … it is considerable in fairness and my choice in music is shall we say wide!

I need to start using some decent wireless headphones and these new Sony ones seem well regarded.

My question is how best to do in general? I use NAS fed FLAC files and are getting drawn into streaming services. The CA is RJ45 linked as is all my Sonos stuff. I also watch NAS stored video music/live using the AUX link and sometimes just TV.

Agree with older posts that I’d rather use proper speakers than headphones but the choice is not there this time. Don’t need any multi room on that part of my Sonos.

Never used any headphones before let alone wireless. Could use some advice how to integrate this into an otherwise nice room system,

Details on the Sony’s …..https://www.whathifi.com/reviews/sony-wh-1000xm4

Many thanks in advance

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    106rallye
    August 17, 2020

    The Sony is a bluetooth headphone. If you can play music from your NAS on your phone you’re fine.

    Headliner I
    August 17, 2020

    The Sony is a bluetooth headphone. If you can play music from your NAS on your phone you’re fine.

    Hi 106, do you mean run Sonos on the phone or another tool?

    Sonos does indeed connect to NAS and play from there. 

    Would in an ideal world stick to the one tool (Sonos) if it’s possible

    Thanks for the quick reply

    106rallye
    August 17, 2020

    No, with a tool like Qnap provides for my NAS (called Qfile).

    If you really want to stay in the Sonos universe a Sonos Port (or Connect) and a wireless (not bluetooth) headphone would do the trick. If you want S2 software choose a Port or a Connect made in 2016 or later. I use a Sennheiser 180 RS (out of production) with my Connect.

    Headliner I
    August 17, 2020

    No, with a tool like Qnap provides for my NAS (called Qfile).

    If you really want to stay in the Sonos universe a Sonos Port (or Connect) and a wireless (not bluetooth) headphone would do the trick. If you want S2 software choose a Port or a Connect made in 2016 or later. I use a Sennheiser 180 RS (out of production) with my Connect.

    Yes I use QNAP and ironically I’m this very second installing a new QNAP, a TX453Be 10g NIC and 16gb memory and 36TB Raid 5 …. waited years upgrade this. 

    Apols I’m a bit confused, why would a Sonos Port work over a Sonos Connect Amp work better? I’m misunderstanding something here. I know the old Play 5 (got two) have a headphone port from memory. But what makes the Connect an option over a CA?

    Maybe I’m misreading your explanation. New territory this one :-)

     

    106rallye
    August 17, 2020

    I do not own a Connect Amp, but seem to remember is does not have an RCA out to connect a wireless headphone base station to. If I wrong in this assumption, you could connect the headphone base station to the RCA out of the Connect Amp.

     Nice NAS set up by the way.

    Headliner I
    August 17, 2020

    I do not own a Connect Amp, but seem to remember is does not have an RCA out to connect a wireless headphone base station to. If I wrong in this assumption, you could connect the headphone base station to the RCA out of the Connect Amp.

     Nice NAS set up by the way.

    Yeah I got it off ebay and saved a packet, well under half price. Trouble being has taken months to find some new WD RED 12TB drives at a decent price. New they over £600 but have found three now off ebay for £250 each … still a lot and still missing the 4th drive but is enough. I’m just copying 12TB off my old TS410 (literally this second) which has done sterling work the last 10 years but very slow getting. Taking a time set up but looks promising.

    What a good point … has RCA connections but not sure if is an output. Beginning to see what you mean now. Just checked and you absolutely right, no output. How frustrating.

    In researching that, I read that Sonos were indeed developing their own headphones but that article was back in 2018. 

    Frustrating but at least understand why that particular device problematic, thanks for explaining that.

    And if I got a Port or even used the Play 5 with headphone output, what type of device would I need plug into that to make the wireless headphones a possibility? This sort of thing? ….. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bluetooth-Transmitter-Speaker-Headphone-Computer/dp/B074PLV4L5

    Thanks again, slowly getting there knowledge wise. 

    BTW, also a 106 driver but a rather more modest 1994 1.5D XND :grinning:

    106rallye
    August 18, 2020

    A bluetooth transmitter might work. Since you’ve been looking at WhatHifi, they may have reviewed a bluetooth transmitter too. This transmitter needs an optical in which means you have to get a Connect, as it is the only Sonos device with an optical out (the Port has lost this function). A bluetooth transmitter with an RCA or digital coaxial connection would also make it possible to use a Port, a bluetooth transmitter with RCA can be connected to the Connect, the Port or the Play:5 Gen1.

    You do not mention if you’re on S1 or S2 software. If your Connect Amp was produced before 2016 you’re stuck to S1, which means you can also buy an older Connect, made in the sam period as your Connect Amp. I see some complaints on this forum of Play:5 Gen1’s (the only Sonos speaker with a headphone jack) failing - you could be taking a risk going for this instead of a Port or Connect.

    Headliner I
    August 18, 2020

    A bluetooth transmitter might work. Since you’ve been looking at WhatHifi, they may have reviewed a bluetooth transmitter too. This transmitter needs an optical in which means you have to get a Connect, as it is the only Sonos device with an optical out (the Port has lost this function). A bluetooth transmitter with an RCA or digital coaxial connection would also make it possible to use a Port, a bluetooth transmitter with RCA can be connected to the Connect, the Port or the Play:5 Gen1.

    You do not mention if you’re on S1 or S2 software. If your Connect Amp was produced before 2016 you’re stuck to S1, which means you can also buy an older Connect, made in the sam period as your Connect Amp. I see some complaints on this forum of Play:5 Gen1’s (the only Sonos speaker with a headphone jack) failing - you could be taking a risk going for this instead of a Port or Connect.

    Hi again,, S1 at the moment but trying rationalise my gear to be ready for when S2 becomes more useful. Lucky I can move a good bit around, donate some to the son and only have to buy a couple of boxes to get to nearly full S2. More by luck than good judgement.

    I do have a spare older S1 Connect and two older S1 Play 5's. Prefer keep the Play 5’s in place, only on bedroom duty but the S1 Connect I could free up easily enough. That looks like it should work fine.

    But such a shame that there is not an amplified box that could both drive speakers and the Sony BT/wireless headphones. 

    I’m sure there must be a reason but cannot say as I can think of it. Appears on the surface such a cheap add on to do as well.

     

    Enthusiast II
    August 18, 2020

    SONOS Port + bluetooth transmitter will work perfectly fine with your headphones :)