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Avid Contributor I
February 26, 2018
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Amp into Connect

  • February 26, 2018
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If I have a record player plugged into a decent amp then into the Connect do I get a better sound quality than if I plugged the record player straight into the Connect. Or does the amp built into the sonos speaker take priority over whatever is plugged into it. ie if I had a super duper amp would it be a waste plugging that into the connect or should I just get a cheapo amp. I will also drive a cd player and airport express and an arcam miniblink for bluetooth through the amp into the Connect. Is there a cap at which it makes no difference what kind of amp you have running all those bits through as the Sonos PLay 5 amp will max out and only play sound quality of a certain level.
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Best answer by Kumar
So assuming there were no neighbours to worry with loud music, the volume of a CD or a record when played through the Rega Elicit-R wired to the Connect played wirelessly to the Play 5 would be able to go higher and still maintain quality than if the CD or record was played through the Connect:AMP and played wirelessly up to the Play 5 then.

Also, ignoring volume, would the sound quality of a CD or a record when played through the Rega Elicit-R wired to the Connect played wirelessly to the Play 5, sound better to someone who knew what they were listening for, than if the CD or record was played through the Connect:AMP and played wirelessly up to the Play 5?

No and No.

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KumarAnswer
February 27, 2018
So assuming there were no neighbours to worry with loud music, the volume of a CD or a record when played through the Rega Elicit-R wired to the Connect played wirelessly to the Play 5 would be able to go higher and still maintain quality than if the CD or record was played through the Connect:AMP and played wirelessly up to the Play 5 then.

Also, ignoring volume, would the sound quality of a CD or a record when played through the Rega Elicit-R wired to the Connect played wirelessly to the Play 5, sound better to someone who knew what they were listening for, than if the CD or record was played through the Connect:AMP and played wirelessly up to the Play 5?

No and No.
Avid Contributor I
February 27, 2018
Thanks Kumar, if I want to be able to play from more than one source and flip between with minimal effort what would you recommend?
Chris
Lead Maestro
February 27, 2018
Fact is you want LINE LEVEL fed into the Connect (which then of course plays wirelessly to the Play:5 or any other Sonos units).

Your record player doesn't feed out LINE LEVEL. So it needs to be hooked to a pre-amp that will step phono up to LINE LEVEL. Yes the REGA would step up the phone to LINE LEVEL. You would hook the CD player to input 2. Then you would hook the Connect to the RECORD OUT. The Rega is pretty overkill in this situation just using as a pre-amp. Now it would work well if you hook passive speakers to the REGA and then hook the Connect to the Input 3 and be able to play Sonos music then to your passive speakers hooked to the REGA. The CD player in this case the Rega does nothing at all for (it is LINE LEVEL to start).

Now if your not wanting passive speakers there isn't much use for the Rega. In that case I would get just a phono pre-amp to hook to the record player. Hook the pre-amp between record player and Connect. If you have a CD player you really want to hook to system as well (really just rip the CDs and forget CD player). I would hook the CD player to the Play:5 input (thus allowing you in the Sonos app to chose which source you want to hear as that would then give you a listed PHONO input and listed CD INPUT in Sonos app).
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Avid Contributor I
February 27, 2018
Brilliant, thanks Chris. The thing is I want to be able to play from CD (don't ask) , Vinyl, an arcam miniblink fro BT and an Airport Express so potentialy 4 sources and be able to flip between with minimal effort. With Airplay coming along soon to sonos this would then be 3 sources or I just get an airplay plus BT box, I think Yamaha do a nice one. Also, I can't get to the Play 5 line-in as its wall. What do you reckon? At the moment I am leaning towards a Connect:AMP and multi source switch.
Chris
Lead Maestro
February 27, 2018
Connect:Amp and Multi-Source Switch - - you will still need a pre-amp for the phono to get it to LINE LEVEL to input into the switch.

So your thinking something like this https://www.amazon.com/Switch-Iseebiz-Housing-Output-Switcher/dp/B01ELE3BPQ/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1519691979&sr=8-2-spons&keywords=analog+rca+switch&psc=1
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Chris
Lead Maestro
February 27, 2018
then a phono pre-amp for the record player https://www.amazon.com/GOgroove-Compact-Turntable-Preamplifier-Adapter/dp/B00WNLIHJA/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1519692068&sr=8-2-spons&keywords=phono+preamp&psc=1
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Avid Contributor I
February 27, 2018
Something like that yep, but with just audio, no video. I am always assuming a phono pre-amp will sit after the record player yes. Rational behind the switch being, if you are up to put on a record or CD you can hit the source switch while there. Slightly annoying for BT and Airplay but hey ho. Do you know what the timeline is for Airplay in Sonos?
Chris
Lead Maestro
February 27, 2018
Probably hard to find a switch for just audio. You'll probably find you will have to get one that has video too (just leave all the yellow video ports unhooked).
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Chris
Lead Maestro
February 27, 2018
I like to usually give Sonos about 3 months of testing once something is to the masses.

So Apple still doesn't have Airplay 2 running properly yet. Lets assume they have Airplay 2 full release by mid-March. That would make me think Sonos would have out in the Mid-June to July timeframe.
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Chris
Lead Maestro
February 27, 2018
Here is 4 port audio only with remote

https://www.amazon.com/4x1-Switcher-Selector-Control-SB-5440RL/dp/B002WMZWVG
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