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October 5, 2017

Sonos, Alexa and local NAS stored music

  • October 5, 2017
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I am impressed with the Alexa / Sonos release yesterday and am pleased to see that it will develop. I know two other people with SONOS systems, and we all play music from a local NAS. Is this possible using Alexa voice control?
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Lyricist III
December 27, 2017
FYI Everyone - Amazon is RETIRING both its free and paid Music Storage Subscriptions on JANUARY 15, 2018...However, you can still subscribe to the Paid 250,000 track plan for 24.99/yr. UP UNTIL THAT DATE. Per Amazon, the paid service will then be continued until you either cancel it or let your subscription lapse.
Avid Contributor I
January 4, 2018
There is a thread elsewhere ( https://en.community.sonos.com/amazon-alexa-and-sonos-229102/playing-local-music-library-on-sonos-through-alexa-6791360/index1.html#post16150671 ) where the question was explicitly asked "Will alexa skill be able to play from my music library?" and, although Ryan (from Sonos) at no point answers this (instead essentially talking about what it can currently do), it is marked as 'Answered'.
My apologies, it was a busy day and I marked it answered because it answered the second question asked, I must not have noticed that the original one was "will" not "what". I've since edited the post a bit.

In short, melvimbe's analysis is pretty darn good, and on point. There would be work needing to be done on both sides of things for local libraries. There needs to be a cloud listing of your local tracks available when you'd want to listen to music, also with the knowledge of where or when to tell Sonos where to go. You can expect this Alexa integration to get better over time, we're constantly working on it. But I don't have any specifics on if or when we might get local libraries included. For those new to the thread, you can still use Alexa to control what's currently playing from any source, you just can't add something to the queue or start playing from certain sources with Alexa.


I understand unable to initiate a local source from Alexa, but can start the queue from the Sonos App and then further control from Alexa

However does this then allow you search options based on the queue content? I.E play Rolling Stones in Kitchen
Lyricist II
February 24, 2018
FYI Everyone - Amazon is RETIRING both its free and paid Music Storage Subscriptions on JANUARY 15, 2018...However, you can still subscribe to the Paid 250,000 track plan for 24.99/yr. UP UNTIL THAT DATE. Per Amazon, the paid service will then be continued until you either cancel it or let your subscription lapse.

Ya noticed this too, I'm mad but not surprised. Tech companies are killing privacy in the game of collecting data, streaming music allows them to monitor the songs you play, your tastes and preferences and that's valuable info for advertisers or recommending you stuff you may buy.

Personally I'd buy a Sonos product (call it the Sonos Hub) that allows:

a) Some local storage (10GB or more)
b) Linking to a cloud drive folder (OneDrive, Google, Amazon, Apple, Dropbox)
c) Most often played music is stored locally, the rest is streamed.

And all Sonos speakers can play music from this Sonos hub / it's just a NAS and it works with Alexa voice control or Google or ...

Finally, for more technical people like me, they can setup their own NAS. But judging by this, Sonos doesn't care:
https://en.community.sonos.com/setting-up-sonos-228990/sonos-support-for-smb-2-0-protocol-6739642/index6.html
February 24, 2018
FYI Everyone - Amazon is RETIRING both its free and paid Music Storage Subscriptions on JANUARY 15, 2018...However, you can still subscribe to the Paid 250,000 track plan for 24.99/yr. UP UNTIL THAT DATE. Per Amazon, the paid service will then be continued until you either cancel it or let your subscription lapse.

Ya noticed this too, I'm mad but not surprised. Tech companies are killing privacy in the game of collecting data, streaming music allows them to monitor the songs you play, your tastes and preferences and that's valuable info for advertisers or recommending you stuff you may buy.

Personally I'd buy a Sonos product (call it the Sonos Hub) that allows:

a) Some local storage (10GB or more)
b) Linking to a cloud drive folder (OneDrive, Google, Amazon, Apple, Dropbox)
c) Most often played music is stored locally, the rest is streamed.

And all Sonos speakers can play music from this Sonos hub / it's just a NAS and it works with Alexa voice control or Google or ...

Finally, for more technical people like me, they can setup their own NAS. But judging by this, Sonos doesn't care:
https://en.community.sonos.com/setting-up-sonos-228990/sonos-support-for-smb-2-0-protocol-6739642/index6.html


Apart from any privacy concerns the challenge for me is to have all of my music in one place and accessible via voice command. I don't much care if it is in the cloud or on a NAS as long as I can control it by voice and create playlists that include all the music I want to hear, not just the tracks or song versions available on a given streaming service. I was pretty much committed to the Amazon model until they broke it by removing the upload option so now I am once again pushed to local libraries as the only way to accomplish the listening model I want. Neither Sonos nor Amazon want to support voice access to a central store of all of your music so I will probably have to look elsewhere. For now Amazon is the best option for the voice piece and Sonos could be used for the music distribution piece (if they get the voice commands to group speakers working and get the ducking tied to the local zone only) but it looks like the only way to ensure you can listen to all of the music that is important to you in the way you want to hear it is to get it into one place that is not subject to the whims and instability of a service provider. I suspect this will require setting up a local media server of some sort that works with Alexa. Once I select that I will see if Sonos can still be in the picture or not.
Local music library with carefully constructed playlists - no shuffling!, Integration with Homeseer Automation, No touch screen devices, No streaming services, No Apple products ever
jgatie
February 24, 2018
Neither Sonos nor Amazon want to support voice access to a central store of all of your music so I will probably have to look elsewhere.


It is impossible that you have forgotten the Sonos CEO recently said the exact opposite to this statement, not to mention you being corrected on this in the past. Given this history of misinformation, I can only surmise that your statements on this subject are deliberately false and misleading.
February 24, 2018
Neither Sonos nor Amazon want to support voice access to a central store of all of your music so I will probably have to look elsewhere.


It is impossible that you have forgotten the Sonos CEO recently said the exact opposite to this statement, not to mention you being corrected on this in the past. Given this history of misinformation, I can only surmise that your statements on this subject are deliberately false and misleading.


The CEO spoke of an aspiration in a PR driven interview with no specifics or timeline. In Ryan's quote above: "I don't have any specifics on if or when we might get local libraries included" note the word if. They may support it someday but they do not today and there is no indication they will in any practical timeframe that would be useful for someone looking for a solution now and certainly no way to know what the delivered features will or will not actually do. In other words vaporware.
Local music library with carefully constructed playlists - no shuffling!, Integration with Homeseer Automation, No touch screen devices, No streaming services, No Apple products ever
jgatie
February 24, 2018
Goalposts successfully moved. This is becoming a habit for you.

For others viewing this thread, the CEO has stated publicly that it is the intention of Sonos to support voice control of local libraries and other services not native to Alexa. Some read this as them "not wanting" to do it, you can decide for yourself who to believe, and who is giving out willful misinformation.