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October 24, 2017
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Microphone sensitivity for the “Alexa” wake word is low

  • October 24, 2017
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I still have to use either, but here is the Stuff magazine take on this, from their review:
"Finally, Alexa seems to be less responsive on the Sonos One, at least compared to the Echo, meaning you have to speak a little bit louder for it to hear you. Considering my Echo will sometimes pick up an unintended ‘Alexa’ reference while I’m chatting in another room, this probably isn’t as significant a shortcoming as it sounds.
Read more at https://www.stuff.tv/sonos/one/review#RDh9IciKOQwAQ2K0.99

But something that is a concern that Sonos ought to look at, if what you say is more applicable.
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Best answer by Ryan S
Sonos version 8.2.3 is now available for the Sonos One (other Sonos devices will stay on 8.2.2). This update improves Alexa responsiveness for Sonos One users in US, UK, Germany, and Austria.

You should find that Alexa is getting better at listening, with a decrease in the times Alexa speaks up when not called. Alexa on Sonos One is now more likely to carry out your desired action when requested; especially when it’s noisy, when the speaker is further away, or when speaking quietly.

Update within your Sonos app by going to More > Settings > Online Updates.

We’re continuing to work with Amazon and the Alexa team to improve Sonos One voice control. You can expect to see more developments as we go. Let us know what you think of the changes. We’d love to hear from you.

261 replies

Lyricist I
December 3, 2017
So I think it is more than sensitivity, pitch of voice is the real issue. My 14 year old daughter wakes Alexa up from the far end of the living room whereas using my normal voice from half the distance away gets stony silence. If I change the pitch of my voice the hit rate improves significantly. Perhaps most of your testers had high-pitched voices? 😃
Lyricist I
December 3, 2017
Agree that the microphone sensitivity is hugely disappointing. The only reason I got the One was because of another flaw that the Echo dot will not “stay connected” to Sonos the same way it does to a Bluetooth speaker. With “stay connected” I mean that it will not respond through the speaker and God forbid you forget to say “play music in the XX ROOM” it will just play music in the Echo. So I got the One which solves this problem but it can’t hear anything and my Echo which could be in another room still picks up the commands first.

Does anybody know a fix to the first problem or whether that problem is with Echo or Sonos? Very annoying.
Lyricist I
December 3, 2017
I bought two Sonos One units in a household with several Echo devices. The Sonos is absolutely terrible at picking up the wake word. I bought my Sonos Ones on Black Friday so I'm going to give them until January when the return period ends, if they haven't massively improved this so that it's on par with the Echos, these are going right back to the store.
Trending Lyricist I
December 3, 2017
I just purchased two Sonos One's and a Playbase. I am a first time Sonos user. So far, as all the posts above mentioned, very disappointed with getting Alexa to wake. I can be 3 feet away and my voice or my wife does not wake Alexa.

Seperately - not sure Playbase is that great. Since it only uses optical out, it looks like I have to purchase a hdmi switcher for it to work with my bluray and ATV4, since my TV optical would not work (Pioneer Elite 150) and I am going through the cable box. I like easy and so far none of this has been very simple.
Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
December 5, 2017
Ryan, can you explain how a cloud update is going to fix the locally processed Alexa wake word? Also when is the fix being put in place? The request for an ETA seems to be being ignored.

Local processing is based on cloud data. Data and definitions from in cloud updates get pushed down to the players without the need for full Sonos player updates. The Sonos One needs to know what to listen for, and as the cloud definitions and audio data gets better, the microphones get better at pinpointing on the right sounds.

There isn't a specific timeline to share because updates are constantly being worked on and pushed to the cloud so that voice recognition can continue to improve and get better as we go.
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KumarAuthor
December 5, 2017
flaw that the Echo dot will not “stay connected” to Sonos the same way it does to a Bluetooth speaker. With “stay connected” I mean that it will not respond through the speaker and God forbid you forget to say “play music in the XX ROOM” it will just play music in the Echo.
Not a flaw: that is by a design that is different from how Dot + connected BT speakers work. The solution is to get a One, but at this time it does not seem to be a viable one with an unresolved Mic issue.

IMO, the Mic performance will never be as good as via a Dot that is placed some distance from a noise source, the speaker. Which is why the Dot does better than even the Echo and does not do so if placed next to any speaker it is delivering music to.

Which raises an interesting question: Does the One Mic perform better when the One itself is silent, and music is playing through other Sonos speakers?
KumarAuthor
December 5, 2017
In continuation to the above, a quote about Amazon devices:
"All three speakers have a seven-microphone array, meaning they should be equally good at picking up your voice commands from across the room.
However, Amazon recommends that the Echo Dot is placed at least three feet away from an external speaker, so that Alexa can hear the wake word and other requests."
Obviously, Amazon suggests what it does only for the Dot because it cannot do so for the other two, that have the same Mic array. Logically therefore, the Dot Mic should do better than the other two, if the Amazon recommendation is complied with or even improved. My experience with Dot and Echo confirms this; as does one reported problem with the clever Vaux speakers that combine a Dot+Wired speaker in one box that ends up looking a lot like a play 1, which is that voice commands have to be louder than what they have to be for a well placed separate Dot.
And this kind of placement recommended for the Dot isn't possible for the One as well, so its Mic has to pick up your voice over the sound that it is delivering. A much bigger challenge than it is for an arguably better equipped and well placed Dot with its 7 mics compared to 6 in the One.
Lyricist III
December 5, 2017
same here. I can whisper to my echo dot (quite impressive to be honest how low i can talk to it_, but with sonos i have to scream. Really annoying. To add on that, Sonos has forced me to buy two sonos one to have stereo sound, but the voice control goes to only one of them which is frustrating. For instance, if i put a timer and then ask how much is left,most of the time the request is picked up by the other speaker that tells me there is no timer set. I ended up switching off the mic on one of the two but then why do i need to pay more for two ones? that's bad imo
chicks
December 5, 2017

Does the One Mic perform better when the One itself is silent, and music is playing through other Sonos speakers?


No, its sensitivity to the wake word is, at best, 1/10 that of a Dot. I can speak directly toward the One from 3’ away. It will not respond, while the Dot, 20’ away at a 90 degree angle, will. It’s a ridiculous situation, and ought to be Sonos’ #1 priority right now. I’ve not noticed any improvement whatsoever over time.
KumarAuthor
December 5, 2017
Agreed. Along with enabling Sonos Skills in Alexa for India.:D
So I can put my three November bought "official" Dots to work.