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Avid Contributor III
June 11, 2023
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sonos sub grouped with two stereo pairs

In my living room, I have two fives and two ones. If I get the sub, can I group it to the group “living room” or can I only add it to the fives or ones?

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nik9669aAnswer
Senior Virtuoso
June 11, 2023

You can “bond” the Sub to the speaker or speakers that have been set up as a room. That could be a single speaker or a stereo pair (or a home theatre system with soundbar and two surrounds). But the sub has to be “de-bonded” to assign it to a different room. When grouping rooms, if the Sub is part of a room configuration it will still play, even if there is no Sub in the other rooms in the group. 

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AjTrek1
June 12, 2023

I have a rectangle living room, roughly 26x12. This is a picture of how/where it’s setup. The fives and ones are always played together. 

 

I would still bond the sub to the Ones for the reasons I stated. When in your listening position you should not be able to determine the direction the low-end (aka the placement of the sub). Typically placing the sub in a corner (my choice) or behind/underneath a sofa gives the best results. You may have to experiment to determine the best location.

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UbetAuthor
Avid Contributor III
June 12, 2023

I had it in the corner near the stove and I could DEFINITELY hear it and tell where it’s coming from. It’s better where it is now. I have it set at 7. I’m not really sure if it’s worth what I paid for it, honestly. I think I’d rather buy outdoor speakers and connect them to the system. 

AjTrek1
June 12, 2023

When the sub was in the corner were you able to use true play? 

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UbetAuthor
Avid Contributor III
June 12, 2023

No I didn’t….  I guess I could put it back there and try it. 

buzz
Grand Maestro
June 12, 2023

Ideally a subwoofer should be in the same plain, midway between the speakers. In general, if blindfolded and brought into a room with an active subwoofer, your accuracy at being able to point to the subwoofer location is very low. If, for example, the subwoofer is placed in a corner behind you, your pointing accuracy will improve.

As you have discovered, subwoofers are very sensitive to their location in the room. Efficiency increases dramatically when placed in a corner. Overall, only you will know what sounds “best”.

UbetAuthor
Avid Contributor III
June 12, 2023

Ideally a subwoofer should be in the same plain, midway between the speakers. In general, if blindfolded and brought into a room with an active subwoofer, your accuracy at being able to point to the subwoofer location is very low. If, for example, the subwoofer is placed in a corner behind you, your pointing accuracy will improve.

As you have discovered, subwoofers are very sensitive to their location in the room. Efficiency increases dramatically when placed in a corner. Overall, only you will know what sounds “best”.

Thank you. And yes in front with only one sounds better, it is halfway in between the fives. I turned the bass on the speakers down. One to -2 and fives to +3 with treble at 6 on both. The sub is set at +7 and it sounds right to me. Just enough bass but but to much. On certain stuff it needs turned down. But most of the stuff we listen to, red dirt, rock n roll, generally stuff with guitars it sounds right. I just don’t know if it sounds $640 right though. 

buzz
Grand Maestro
June 12, 2023

Obviously, adding a subwoofer to a smaller speaker system increases the amount of bass. Another improvement is an increase in overall midrange clarity because the job presented to the smaller speaker is simplified.