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Enthusiast I
August 19, 2024
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Separate S1 & S2 Systems and Household Id

I am trying to create separate S1 & S2 systems, but currently both systems can see the other systems players, which gives rise to a number of problems.  I have recently become aware that running 2 systems on the same wifi network requires each to have a unique Household Id.  

I am using Phonos Plus to migrate Playlists etc between the 2 systems and it has a feature which displays the Household Id; however, the id it reports is different to that which appears when I access the Sonos internal information via the direct link: IPAddr:1400/support/review.

For example, here are the ids of my S1 and S2 systems according to the Sonos Zone Player info:

HHID_***********************************

HHID_***********************************

and here is the id displayed for both systems by Phonos Plus:

HHID_************************

i.e. the two are identical up to the period in the first 2 examples.

My question is do already I have 2 systems with the necessary unique Household Ids, as suggested by the Sonos Zone Player info, or are the Ids identical, as suggested by the Phonos Plus info?

Hope someone can set me straight about this, since as things stand I do not have a practical way to run the 2 systems concurrently.

Moderator edit: Recorded and removed personally identifying Household IDs.

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Ken_Griffiths
August 19, 2024

I have separate S1 App/Sonos App (S2) systems that were setup entirely independently (ie the S2 system was NOT an upgrade from the S1 system) and the HouseholdControlID reference, both before and after the ‘period’ are entirely different.

Therefore, I suspect your two systems are the same HH ID and to resolve that issue (if that’s what you’re trying to do), you need to pick one system and factory reset all its products and create a new Sonos HH from scratch with a reset Sonos App.

I hope that assists.

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Ken_Griffiths
August 24, 2024

@Ken_Griffiths you are absolutely right ……. just let me play my music and stream a few radio channels.  The older I get the more important it becomes to maintain the status quo, since most change is often just a pita.  I can see that this is a problem for Sonos (and every other product manufacturer), who need to keep refreshing their products in order to attract new users, but it is very unhelpful to lots of existing users who often neither use nor want many of the new features.

Unfortunately, it is a fact of life that everything is becoming way more complicated.  My wife is adamant that if I were not around to deal with Sonos, wifi, pcs etc, she’d go back to LP’s and a record player (well maybe cd’s), a wireless and an abacus.  She might be joking about the last item - not sure either of us could use an abacus!

I will just mention none of us have to upgrade our products - that said, I’ve had to eventually upgrade phones, tablets and other devices to keep some Apps working. My PC needs upgrading too. I’ll get around to these things eventually though, no doubt.

My Harmony hubs/remotes (no longer supported) are heading towards their ‘last legs’ too.

It’s they way of the world, these days when it comes to tech.