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Avid Contributor I
August 26, 2019
Question

Multiple Boosts?

I've recently moved homes and am trying to get my Sonos setup more reliable. 4000 sq.ft. house with one connect:amp, a newer amp, one connect, 3 play:1's and a play:3.
Was hard wiring as much as possible into my LAN, but found that Sonos and Ubiquiti can be a bit troublesome to setup.

Based on feedback, when to full Sonosnet setup with a boost the only item connected/hardwired to a UB managed switch. Results are definitely better, but i still get drop outs especially when connecting more than 3 speakers, etc.

my question is that if adding an additional Boost might help. 3 floors... i have the new AMP on the top floor, the boost on the middle floor, and am thinking about adding another boost on the lower floor (where the connect:amp is).

will this help at all?
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    buzz
    Grand Maestro
    August 28, 2019
    tomgru,

    Noise floor above the mid -80's can be troublesome. (-80 is more noise than -100) In this respect the Great Room closet is not a great location. I doubt that you will see any wireless unit's noise floor above -70 because the units really can't communicate in that environment.

    The Great Room player is struggling. ratty's suggestion to wire the Great Room player and turn OFF its radio will probably help things along. Also, experiment with physically moving BOOST. Either move it within the closet or move it to a wired port in another location. Note that the Network Matrix is a snapshot, you'll need to refresh the page after each adjustment.

    I'm a fan of wiring as many SONOS units as possible. If you wire multiple SONOS units and are using UBIQUTI network switches, make sure that the switches are set for STP. Don't use RSTP.
    tomgruAuthor
    Avid Contributor I
    August 29, 2019
    thanks everyone... so helpful. i'll keep messing around a bit and report back this weekend!
    tomgruAuthor
    Avid Contributor I
    September 2, 2019
    working on this today. will try suggestions and report back. one question...

    what is the "undefined"? I have two now in my matrix?

    My guess is they are old Bridges that I didn't remove correctly. is there a way to go back and fix that?
    ratty
    September 2, 2019
    "Undefined" headings can be due to devices being offline, devices having disabled radios, or the presence of 5GHz connections to a home theatre speaker.

    If the MAC addresses are +1 with respect to your Bridges' serial numbers then you have your answer.

    Phantom entries for offline devices will remain until the system has been restarted, either by power-cycling or as a result of a firmware update.
    tomgruAuthor
    Avid Contributor I
    September 2, 2019
    ok... not sure how this panning out. here's what I've done per advice above.
    • Main floor Boost moved out of closet (where interference was greatest) and is wired into dumb switch in office
    • Downstairs Boost wired into Ubiquiti switch (8). STP set, with priority 8192
    • Great room wired to ubiquiti switch (8) with STP and priority 8192.
    • Main deck (downstairs near boost) wired to ubiquiti switch (8) with STP and priority 8192.
    • (FYI if it matters, main ubiquiti switch (16) set to STP priority 4096
    On thing on the wifi... when I tried to turn if off, I get an error saying to make sure it's connected to a router (it is). so on the Main deck/great room, it wouldn't let me turn if off. thoughts here?

    this does not look very good :-)

    ratty
    September 2, 2019
    Great Room's radio is now off.

    Ambient RF noise still accounts for the amber/red in the left column. If the system's behaving okay then ignore it, otherwise you'd need to isolate what's causing the interference, by going round turning other gear off until you can find the culprit. Note that there's a minute or two lag before the system responds to the removal of a noise source.
    tomgruAuthor
    Avid Contributor I
    September 2, 2019
    Great Room's radio is now off.

    Ambient RF noise still accounts for the amber/red in the left column. If the system's behaving okay then ignore it, otherwise you'd need to isolate what's causing the interference, by going round turning other gear off until you can find the culprit. Note that there's a minute or two lag before the system responds to the removal of a noise source.

    ah... so the blank row/column is a good thing?
    Wonder why I can't turn wifi off for main deck? it is also plugged into lan port on switch.

    The boost downstairs is very close to the main deck.. not sure it's doing anything.... how would I know?

    Thanks again for all the help here Ratty. Much appreciated!
    ratty
    September 2, 2019
    A blank row/column means the radio is disabled.

    It's not obvious why Main Deck refuses to disable its radio. Its connecting wirelessly to Master Bedroom, so presumably the latter's wireless. That shouldn't matter though. Sometimes the system is a bit fussy about disabling the radio if the device is hung off a peripheral switch. Try temporarily wiring Main Deck to the same switch as either of the Boosts.

    As for Boost Downstairs it isn't actually doing anything useful. Look along its row. None of the cells are coloured: it has no wireless connections.
    tomgruAuthor
    Avid Contributor I
    September 2, 2019
    ok... think i'm getting somewhere. did quite a few changes.
    • Moved boost downstairs to upstairs, hardwired. it is now helping Momcave and garage
    • Moved boost mainfloor to another room, hardwired. really only helping Tom's office
    • Master bedroom is now hardwired, but left wifi on. Looks like it's helping master bathroom and kitchen
    • Got both main deck and great room hardwired, wifi off
    will run this for a bit. see anything glaring?

    ratty
    September 2, 2019
    Signal strengths are now looking very good. If you're not experiencing any problems you can ignore the colours in the left column. The wireless chipsets are basically just doing their job of rejecting noise.