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Cazualchatter
Enthusiast I
February 23, 2017
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Bass vs Sub

Can anyone explain how the Sub level works vs the Bass? What is the effect of increasing the Sub level vis a vis increasing bass level.
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    Arnaud D
    Arnaud DAnswer
    Lyricist I
    February 23, 2017
    Hi Cazualchatter, welcome to the community.

    The Bass level is part of the EQ and will increase or decrease the level of bass in general (on the Sub and also on the speaker that is bonded with the Sub).
    However, the Sub level will affect only the Sub and not the speaker(s) bonded with. Sub level does not touch the EQ, but simply raise or reducing the power of the Sub.
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    Lyricist III
    February 24, 2017
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    Cazualchatter
    Enthusiast I
    February 25, 2017
    I think the Play 1s + Sub combination while really good does not sound as punchy to me as the Play 5s when I heard both in a shop. Maybe I just need to try adjusting the EQ and Sub slides to see which comes closest.
    How speakers sound is very greatly influenced by where they are placed, so a valid comparison needs both to be placed in the same place, ideally in the target home, with special attention to Sub placement. I don't see that either will then be punchier than the other, but the 1 pair + Sub will stay punchier as volume levels come close to the max - if that style of listening is a preference or a need and is permitted by a lack of neighbours.

    The best way to tweak the sound from a speaker set up is:
    1. Place them in as close to an ideal position as the home allows.
    2. Then do True play tuning in that location
    3. Fiddle around with both Eq and Sub output levels to get the sound to your specific tastes, for the music you listen to. Doing this is always a lot more useful than reading about doing it.


    Kumar, i cannot place the Sub between the speakers. They are on the TV table and because the Sub looks so grand, i have it placed at the far end of the table so as to not block the view of the TV for those own that end. I have listened to Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon today with my eyes closed and could not make out the position of the Sub. The low notes seemed to play from the Play1 on the other side so to speak. i did not understand why the position of the Sub matters even Sonos recommends placing it any where. I also am looking at the Playbar and then your proposition does to make sense because it will not hold for the bar.
    Music + Movies on 2x Play 1s + Sub + Playbar. Amazon Echo Dot + Google Home Mini. Beautiful impulsive music.
    February 25, 2017
    Sonos merely says it can be placed anywhere, not that it will sound the same everywhere! But what works for you is good for you; my recommendation is based on my experience with different locations of the Sub for the best results for music to my ears. I don't use a Sub for home theatre.
    Prodigy II
    February 25, 2017
    Trueplay tune your speakers to get at least a good starting point for your sound.