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AjTrek1
AjTrek1
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Sonos and Mesh Networks Can Play In The Same Sandbox

HIMesh Networks do work with Sonos as long as you choose components designed to work as a Mesh. Let me explain….The PRIMARY function of a Me...
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Hamzalakhany
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how to calculate how many speakers needed for outdoor space?

I am planning to get sonos speakers for outdoor area. I have a pool area and garden at a total of 5-7000 sqft. I was planning to get 1 amp w...
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youn1033Contributor I
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Sonos/Sonance Garden Series + Outdoor TV Compatibility

Hello,I have a Sonos/Sonance Indoor/Outdoor setup consisting of:Living Room - Sonance In-Ceiling Speakers + Sonos Arc Soundbar + Sonos Sub + Sonos Amp Kitchen - Sonance In-Ceiling Speakers + Sonos Amp Backyard - Sonance Garden Series 8.1 System w/ SR 2-125 AmpI have a Russound Speaker Selector and Sonos Port which allow me to combine all of the above to play the same audio in any combination (or different audio through different sources). We have an outdoor television which we would like the ability to run audio through the (SGA) Sonance Garden Series (even if we can’t tie it to the other Sonance In-Ceiling or Sonos Arc Soundbar), but have run into a number of issues. 1st off, utilizing the RCA connections and an adapter which shows on the Sonos app as a “Line-In” connection, the latency is unbearable (even after maxing out the adjustment on the TV), and when connecting it to the Sonos Port, there can only be one input connected at a time, making it impossible to toggle between the SGA

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11 months ago
controlav
controlavMaestro
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Developer site is down, DNS problem

https://developer.sonos.com is down, complains about a DNS issue. In the USA if that matters.

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Airgetlam
10 months ago
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GballarinoContributor I
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Preamp not feeding Sonos Play:5

I have a project debut carbon turntable connected to a Bellari VP130 phono stage. This little setup has been able to give me headphone access (the Bellari serves also as a headphone amp, which is why I bought it) and a line signal that I used to feed to my Sonos Play:5 line-in jack. This worked well for years.  Now o decided to buy a new headphone amp/preamp/speaker amp by a company called LTA (LTA Microzotl 2, or “MZ2” for short). The MZ2 is mainly a headphone amplifier, and it’s GORGEOUS. It has significantly improved my listening experience using headphones. However, I can’t seem to find a way to output to my Sonos.  The MZ2 has an RCA output meant for a power amp, and banana plugs meant to drive high sensitivity speakers (1W power only). If I hook my Sonos to the RCAs I get a very low volume and somewhat distorted sound if I try cranking up either the phono stage or the preamp volume. Awful. I have not tried connecting the banana plugs to the Sonos because I’m guessing that output

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1 year ago
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Ed GContributor I
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My HiFi Audio Quality Bottleneck?

I am on a quest to get the maximum audio quality from my system. I am interested in your opinions on where the weakest links are in my system.I am presently listening to music only by streaming from YouTube music.  No other input source.  I am streaming it through Sonos using a Sonos gen 1 Connect.  I am using the optical out on the Connect which feeds into a miniDSP signal processor.  It splits the optical input into 10 analog output signals which feed into my 10 amplifiers which are required to drive my Linkwitz LX521.4 speaker pair.The system sounds fantastic but I wonder if I can squeeze out a little more fidelity.  Interested in your thoughts.  Thanks, Ed.

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ratty
4 months ago
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JoBurkiContributor I
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sonos play 5 gen 1 and tp link mesh wifi boosters

The S1 app which is used for the old Play 5 gen 1 says "unable to connect to Sonos". I think it's to do with the TP link deco M5 mesh system I installed recently. I can reconnect by switching the router off and on, but it never lasts and the next time I open the app the speaker is gone again.If someone could help in step by step idiot proof terms I'd be eternally grateful.  TIA

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4 months ago
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Shub71Contributor I
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Is there a commercial Sonos system?

It appears that Sonos is really suited for home use. I have a bar and I use Sonos and Spotify but customers that have access to my Wifi also have access to my Sonos/Spotify. I have set my speakers to a separate Wifi on the same router and used to the Sonos App to access my Spotify music but even though people have no access to that password they can still get access to my speakers. Is there a professional solution for commercial use to block access for my customers?

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buzz
1 year ago
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DouglasFContributor I
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Best Alternatives for Harmony Remote??

Does anyone have a solid recommendation for a multi-device universal remote that works well with Sonos?I’ve used the Logitech Harmony Remote and Hub to control my AV products and Sonos for many years. It’s a great system. Recently, the remote stopped sending commands consistently to Sonos and Logitech has announced that they have discontinued Harmony, so updates and support will trail off. I’m done trying to get this to work correctly.

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1 year ago
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YogitimContributor II
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unable to download Sonos beta update 70.3-36010_64

*Moderator*Deleted per OP’s request below. 

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Airgetlam
1 year ago
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jishiHeadliner I
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Multiple subnets (vlans) and Sonos, workable Clavister solution

I just wanted to share my findings in this, since I have installed a Sonos system at work where we have a segmented vlan-separated network here, which we have locked down pretty hard. So this is what I have needed to do for opening up for Sonos, and the scenario is the following 4 vlans vlan 3, 4, 5 consists of desktop computers and wireless clients. vlan 6 is a guest network, fully open to internet, but has no regular access to anything else in the office (until now). I put the Sonos players on vlan6, to give them full access to internet. It is behind NAT. From computer/wireless (3-5) networks to vlan6: TCP port 1400 (Sonos control) From vlan 6 TO vlan3-5: TCP port 3400, 3500 (upnp events) UDP port 1900-1905 (upnp discovery returns) Now, the final piece of the puzzle was the multicast used for finding the players. We use a Clavister firewall, which support something they call SAT multiplex rules (other vendors might have similar functionality but call it something different)

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5 years ago
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richlmContributor I
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Add new trusted wifi network while the existing one is still active

Sonos S2 IoS Version 14.14Arc + Sub + Play3 + Play3 + Move + RoamI have added a google wifi mesh to my home network, to improve wifi coverage. It is a different wifi network to the primary router network.I want to move my Sonos system to the new google wifi mesh, instead of the primary router wifi network, so I can use Sonos from IoS while I am connected to the google wifi mesh.On iphone, I connect to the new google wifi, open Sonos app, and follow instructions to set up a new network.All looks good, it recognizes my iphone is on a different wifi, asks if I want to continue setup, connects to the Arc...and then proceeds with a process of “re”connecting the Arc to the primary router’s network (again), not the one my iphone is connected to. We then go through all the other devices, connecting them to the primary router’s network, not the new google wifi (that my iphone is still connected to).Been through this process 5 times now, restarting app, google wifi, etc., also tried a temporary

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1 year ago
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PgcanlasContributor I
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Playbar and Wifi 6 incompatible?

I have a Playbar that's about 6 years old but rarely Used. I reset it to where it's flashing green and downloaded the app. In setting up a new system, I selected product and the app could not fund the playbar. In speaking with customer service, he informed me that these older Sonos products are incompatible with wifi6 and that i should call my isp to disable wifi6 in my household. Wondering if this is true as he sounded like he was just making conjectures. Any help would be appreciated.  BTW, when I hard wrote wired it, it worked. I need it on wireless and my network cable won't reach.  Tia!

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buzz
4 months ago
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Grateful_EnergyContributor I
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What is my best next upgrade for mostly vinyl listening?

Hello Sonos Community!This is my first post to this forum and I hope you can help. I’m trying to figure out my best next upgrade. I mostly use my Sonos and audio set up for listening to vinyl records. It’s a somewhat entry-level set up and sounds good. But now that I’ve built up my vinyl collection, I feel like I”m at a point where I’d like to upgrade but I’m not sure where I should invest. Here are my specs:Turntable: Audio-Technica AT-LP60X Receiver: Marantz SR-48mk Sonos equipment: Connect - connected to receiver and turntable (Two) Play:5 (Gen 1) - set up in stereo in the living room Play:3 - set up on the other side of the living room One - set up in kitchen  Other speakers: Bose 201 Series III - set up on dinning room, which is in between living room and kitchen,. Connected to Receiver. What’s my best next upgrade? Will upgrading the Sonos Amp make a significant difference? Or should I invest elsewhere? Thanks!

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8 months ago
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LetsGoKingsContributor I
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Samsung Frame TV and Leon Framebar

Hi,Just purchased a Samsung Frame TV (2022) and am considering buying a Leon Frame bar as it will match the aesthetics.  This soundbar does not have an HDMI Arc connection.   I have previously installed in-ceiling front and rear speakers, which I plan to connect using separate amps.Relatively new to this world, but I’m concerned I won’t get 5.1 surround with the way I’m trying to set this up and would appreciate guidance.Samsung Frame TV to Sonos Amp (HDMI), same Sonos Amp to Frame Bar (Center speaker) Front and Rears each with their own Amps.  Sub on its own.Will I get 5.1 out of this setup?  Apologies if this is obvious, appreciate your input!

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buzz
1 year ago
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Evsteele15Contributor I
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How to integrate Sonos Connect with 3rd party reciever to Sonos Arc?

I currently have my Sonos Connect connected to a Sony STR-DH590 receiver to power my Living Room in ceiling surround speakers. Is there anyway to connect my Sonos Arc to this receiver so I can have the ceiling speakers and ARC play together?

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Airgetlam
1 year ago
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s.laiContributor I
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Sonos New Home Multi-Use Setup

Hi everyone, I am renovating my retirement home and hope to get a simple to use, fuss-free all in one system to watch TV, movies, listen to music. Currently, using Roon+Qobuz+QQmusic. May use Apple Music.The overall design was made based on the idea of using a full set of SONOS system to pair with a 75” TV, compromising of the following:Sonos Arc Sonos Sub G3 x 1 Sonos Era 300 (pair)Have 2 considerations in placing the era300 (position 1 in orange on two ends of the side boards and position 2 in pink at the rear of the sofa set). Illustration of layout as shown below. May place a turntable behind the sofa set on the side table to link to the Sonos system wirelessly.I am inclining more towards placing the Era300 at position 1 as i hope it will cover the dining area when listening to music. However I am unsure if this can be done well. Auditioned this set up earlier this week based on position 2 (at the authorised dealer in South East Asia). It sounded good in terms of movies, capturing

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23 days ago
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SiBlContributor I
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Phillips Hue Automation and SonoS issues

Hi I'm a long time Sonos user with Arc, Sub, Play 1 surrounds, move roam, Play3 x 2, 3 x Play 5 and  Boost in general my system was stable until just before Christmas when I started to experience track skipping, speaker loss etc.Using the support matrix I discovered that ALL my Sonos items were experiencing high ODFM ANI numbers i.e. wifi interference they were all Red!After much messing about I realized that the issues only occured after sunset which is when I'd configured my Phillips Hue system to perform a Christmas lights show, in doing this I'd used dynamic scenes where the lights constantly change colour. The Hue hub constantly sends instructions to the lamps which all rebroadcast in a mesh system similar to Sonos (ZigBee rather than  Wifi B or G) .Hue uses different channels 25 in my case and usually a very short ZigBee transmission (switch on, at x brightness and y colour) which causes no problems. Dynamic colour changing of 20 or so lamps appears to flood the network, possibly

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1 year ago
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RuneslothContributor I
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network problem

My samsung phone and the Sonos system is on the same network but won't connect. A router restart will fix i but only until the next day / or if i leave and come back. Once i restart the router everything i fine, but only temporary. Ant good Ideas? Is it the phone or.router?

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Airgetlam
10 months ago
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timkidneyContributor I
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Multiple devices on Multiple access points

Hello allIm aware this is a question that has been asked before but im yet to find a solution or answer that i understand.I have a client who has an old Cob house with super thick walls. We have wired in TP-Link access points to each room with a single SSID on Auto channel configuration. This is so all devices can roam inside and outside on the same network seamlessly. This works fine for all phones and laptops etc.With the new Wireless network in place we reconfigured the Sonos system setting up as like brand new. When in the Kitchen, id reset the Play1 Sonos then it would appear in my app and add as usually expected. When i then walk in to the Lounge. i see the App look like its lost connection as the username etc goes Grey, then after 15 seconds it appears white and showing connected apart from its no longer showing the Kitchen Sonos device. I continue by resetting the 2 x Lounge Sonos Play1 devices and add as a Stereo pair again in the usually expected manner. I can now see both co

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buzz
1 year ago
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IntegratorContributor I
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Sonos in three buildings on one property

We have a large property with a main house, entertainment building and a pool house.  There is one Unifi network for the entire property UDMpro, 3 USW24 switches and 10 Access points, the outbuilding are connected by fiber to a switch in each building.  In the main house there are 12 amps, 2 arcs, 1 beam and 1 sub.  One of the amps is plugged into Ethernet and the rest are on Sonosnet.  The Main house works fine.  The outbuildings are to far away to connect via Sonosnet and when I try to wire one Amp in either building via Ethernet the network crashes and does not recover until I unplug the Ethernet.  I have STP (not RSTP) enabled with the switches prioritized appropriately and IGMP enabled.  In the Entertainment building there are 4amps and 2arcs, in the Pool House there are 2amps.  What would be the best and stable way to connect the outbuilding Sonos players.? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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buzz
1 year ago
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BøtterContributor I
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Connecting turntable to Era or Port?

I’m adding 2 x Era + Sub Mini to my Sonos setup. Want to connect my Audio-Technica turntable to the stereo-paired Era 100s. I already have a Sonos Port. Should I connect my turntable to the Port or one of the Era 100? Any difference in the Era 100 performance? What would you do and why? :-DAndersCopenhagen, Denmark. 

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Airgetlam
1 month ago
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CalabogieTrending Lyricist I
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Sonos with Starlink Internet

Has anyone set up Sonos with Starlink internet yet?  Sounds like they don’t allow much customization on their router but it does do 2.4 and 5. Might be able to use your own router as well but rather use theirs if it works. I’ve found I have to force the 2.4 band to channel 6 to avoid interference. Might not be an option with Starlink router?

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3 years ago
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Marcin4k4ZdzirContributor I
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Which device should utilize HDMI 2.1 (eARC) Sonos Beam 2 or Playstation 5?

Hello all! I would like to get our opinions on which of the devices described in the title would you choose to use the HDMI 2.1 with the support of eARC if the other ports in your TV were only HDMI 2.0 ports with regular ARC, and why.

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jgatie
7 months ago
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Mascot Dec85Avid Contributor I
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Running S1 & S2 together

I got Move for Christmas. My existing system is on S1. Only one speaker (Gen1 Play 5) needs S1 but I use it grouped with another speaker.  I want to set up the Move only on the S2 and keep my existing system separate. I just can’t seem to get S2 and the move up and running. I’ve tried adding the Move alone but it not pairing with I hit the rear connect button.  Any ideas? TIA

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1 year ago
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ValvequeenContributor I
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sonos network still allowing guest access

I have Sonos and it is on its own network yet guests are now accessing my system from the guest network. If they are on Wi-Fi they can access my Sonos system. This is new and something I can’t figure out how to fix.  any help is appreciated. I have a netgear orbi system.

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Ken_Griffiths
10 months ago
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CM70WWContributor I
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Delay on speakers with Connect

I have numerous Sonos products - playbars, subs, 1s, 5s - and several non-Sonos speakers connected through Sonos Connects.  Have all been working fine for years.  Lately, after starting system (TV or music) everything is fine for 10-15 mins, then the non-Sonos speakers develop a delay (stadium sounding echo).  The Speakers are Bowers & Wilkens run through a Rotel RMB-1 Amp and a Sonos Connect on each speaker pair / channel.  Any suggestions?

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buzz
1 year ago
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