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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 22, 2020

End of Software Support - Clarifications

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End of Software Support - Clarifications

We announced yesterday that some of our oldest Sonos products will be moving into a legacy mode in May of 2020. Our commitment is to support products with regular software updates for a minimum of five years after we stop selling them, and we have a track record of supporting products far longer. 

Here is some public information we’ve shared, gathered into one place to respond to some of your questions in one easy thread, so that people can find the correct information easily.

Beginning in May, software updates and new features from Sonos will only be delivered to systems with only modern products.

After May, systems that include legacy products will continue to work as before - but they will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

Sonos will work to maintain the existing experience and conduct bug fixes, but our efforts will ultimately be limited by the lack of memory and processing power of these legacy products.

We don’t expect any immediate impact to your experience, but access to services and overall functionality will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their own services and features. 

 

Customers with both legacy and modern products have time to decide what option is best for them. You can continue to use your whole system in legacy mode - in this case, it will stop receiving updates and new features. 

You will also be able to separate your legacy products from your modern products, so that the modern products can still receive updates and new features, and legacy products can still be used separately. We’ll have more information on how to do this in May when you can take that action.

Another option available to all customers with legacy products is to take advantage of the Trade Up program, which allows you to upgrade older Sonos products to modern ones with a 30% discount. Trade Up will be open to customers at any time should they decide to upgrade. 

We recognize this is new for Sonos owners, just as it is for Sonos. We are committed to help you by making options available to you to support the best decision for your home.
 

If you have any further questions, please don’t hesitate with asking.

Update 2/22: A message from our CEO

We heard you. We did not get this right from the start. My apologies for that and I wanted to personally assure you of the path forward:

First, rest assured that come May, when we end new software updates for our legacy products, they will continue to work as they do today. We are not bricking them, we are not forcing them into obsolescence, and we are not taking anything away. Many of you have invested heavily in your Sonos systems, and we intend to honor that investment for as long as possible. While legacy Sonos products won’t get new software features, we pledge to keep them updated with bug fixes and security patches for as long as possible. If we run into something core to the experience that can’t be addressed, we’ll work to offer an alternative solution and let you know about any changes you’ll see in your experience.

Secondly, we heard you on the issue of legacy products and modern products not being able to coexist in your home. We are working on a way to split your system so that modern products work together and get the latest features, while legacy products work together and remain in their current state. We’re finalizing details on this plan and will share more in the coming weeks.

While we have a lot of great products and features in the pipeline, we want our customers to upgrade to our latest and greatest products when they’re excited by what the new products offer, not because they feel forced to do so. That’s the intent of the trade up program we launched for our loyal customers.

Thank you for being a Sonos customer. Thank you for taking the time to give us your feedback. I hope that you’ll forgive our misstep, and let us earn back your trust. Without you, Sonos wouldn’t exist and we’ll work harder than ever to earn your loyalty every single day.

If you have any further questions please don’t hesitate to contact us.

 

Patrick Spence
CEO, Sonos

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4256 replies

Trending Lyricist I
January 23, 2020

Those trust pilot reviews are sure getting worse

 

Even more 1 star reviews

 

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.sonos.com


lol. This whole thing is absurd. I expected my audio equipment to last for a very long time. I was not aware of the 5 year obsolescence policy when I bought them. Such a  SCAM.

Sonos you deserve whats coming.

...I hear the faint sound of nails being hit into a coffin…..

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Lyricist III
January 23, 2020

Sonos. Why you close the treat and open a new one. Your clarification is still as bad  as the anoucement. Don't try to sugar-coate the stupitidy yiu are doing driven by money. 

Your trade programme sucks and why some will spend more money to be told the same in less than 5 years (as who knows what is your policy now  as we can't trust you.) 

Also we don't want  what you are proposing and it seam you are deaf to 81 pages of complaines. 

We want to use our existing investment and we are not interested on your alternatives. Revert back your decision and make it right 

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Enthusiast I
January 23, 2020

 

 

our efforts will ultimately be limited by the lack of memory and processing power of these legacy products.

 

I will continue to believe this is a convenient lie until you provide some hard evidence to the contrary.

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Enthusiast I
January 23, 2020

2 Connect Amps, 3 Connects and a Play 5 here.  Sonos knows their installed base of Zoneplayers and Play 5s.  I can’t believe their beancounters ran the numbers and concluded that any more than 10-15% are going to go for this Trade Up nonsense. 

With the 30% discount, the company will make a much smaller profit from only a small percentage of their install base. The rest of the base will no longer purchase newer boxes and will be evangelists for NOT buying Sonos.  Along with the awful PR hit they are taking right now - have you read TrustPilot today - it can’t bode well for the company.

 

Sonos,  please come up with some legacy bridge/adapter/module that will make it all work together. We can isolate our legacy products on a separate network, the modern boxes can continue to get updates and the module bridges between the two networks.

If you don’t, someone is going to make one for us.  You may as well put money into R&D to try and rescue your reputation. Plus you could sell it for your usual inflated prices and make some of it back.

Thanks. 
 

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Sonos user since 2008. (3) Connects, (2) Connect Amps, (2) Play 1, (2) Play 3s, (1) Play 5, (1) Arc, (1) Sub, (1) Symfonisk
Enthusiast I
January 23, 2020

Being part of this is like watching a Car accident, I want to look away but can’t because of all the gore.  Early adopter, lot’s of Sonos equipment, talked them up to others, even became a Shareholder.  Sold off all shares today in my anger.  I feel like this has turned into a dirty divorce and I’m fighting for custody of the kids (I know the pain, I’m on marriage #3, of course it’s not me 😉 ).  Wish I could forget this nightmare but my music is playing in the background on my soon to be obsolete Play 5’s.  

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Contributor II
January 23, 2020

I’ve invested mutiple thousand $$ in So is hardware and now this.

i understand tech getting outdated.  But I bought speakers.  Expensive speakers.  And the software will outdate them.

there must be another way!!!

 

serious blow to my Sonos loyalty!!!

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Trending Lyricist I
January 23, 2020

This is despicable. Planned obsolescence is a horrific thing. You are contributing to something that wastes people's time, money and contributes to the production and consumption cycles that are destroying our planet. I will not be a part of this and will be looking to return all my recently purchased Sonos components and advising all and anyone who has shown interest in the products to look elsewhere. 

Your whole platform is so inflexible and demands levels of complex authentication, internet connection stability, so on and so forth. You are failing so epically with this decision, and your decision to not SIMPLIFY your applications and connectivity requirements. 

How many people do you think purchase your premium products (advertised construction, quality, and price) with the expectation that they are a buy it for life items? The answer is MANY. Are you honestly that out of touch with hifi and audio enthusiasts? 

This will be the death of Sonos, mark my words. Anyone who has worked in big tech procurement and contract management will see the signs here. 

 

 
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Trending Lyricist I
January 23, 2020

This gives, at the very least, a bit of pause to my anger… and redirects a fair portion of it.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/07/technology/sonos-sues-google.html

ooft, having read that, whether SONOS are in the right or wrong NOW is not the time to be losing or causing disgruntled customers.  Surely they need to keep the loyal base they have built up!..
OWN and GOAL seem two appropriate words...

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Enthusiast II
January 23, 2020

Those trust pilot reviews are sure getting worse

 

Even more 1 star reviews

 

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.sonos.com


lol. This whole thing is absurd. I expected my audio equipment to last for a very long time. I was not aware of the 5 year obsolescence policy when I bought them. Such a  SCAM.

Sonos you deserve whats coming.

...I hear the faint sound of nails being hit into a coffin…..


I now believe they are fluffing themselves up for a purchase by... (Google, Amazon, Apple, X competitors, or fill in your own guess).  Principles and board will get their golden parachutes, and their customers/resellers/advocates/support teams are screwed.  Convince us we’re wrong.  

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Lyricist I
January 23, 2020

I am very confused. I bought my 6 play 5's. I didn't rent them or lease them. I own them and you are telling me that the use of my property is being taken away by SONOS. This is like stealing. Obsolescence  was never a consideration nor should it be. I have audio equipment that  is far older than these and that still performs great. My expectation was that i was buying the best and that the premium i paid would insure they would work and that the company i trusted would nevet do anything to make them worthless while they were still operating well. Shame on you. I EXPECT THIS IS FAR FROM OVER. You owe it to your users to find a fix.

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