When does Sonos expect to have support for Google Assistant?
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Hi everyone, I posted an update to the status of Google Assistant coming to Sonos here which also links to our Blog. We'll make sure to keep you updated with any news we have to share. Thanks for your patience, and we are as excited to bring you Google Assistant as you are to get it. We're hard at work on building the integration and look forward to getting it in your hands as soon as it's ready.
I would also like to return the 2 units I bought because of no Google Assistant. How is that handled?
Is there any plan to allow old Play 1 (or any Play) speakers to be targets? They already have partial Chromecast support (it's Android only..). I already have Mini's everywhere, I just want to be able to tell them to target the Sonos for music.
Sonos wont give any details of what exactly bringing "google assistant" to sonos will mean.......
For that matter Sonos has not even provided details on what the production release of the Alexa integration will include assuming they ever do bring it out of open beta. Patrick has promised voice access to local libraries and it is assumed the ducking issue will get resolved but beyond that there is no definition of what Alexa integration will be. Based on that I don't think Sonos is going to make any hard commitments regarding Google.
For that matter Sonos has not even provided details on what the production release of the Alexa integration will include assuming they ever do bring it out of open beta. Patrick has promised voice access to local libraries and it is assumed the ducking issue will get resolved but beyond that there is no definition of what Alexa integration will be. Based on that I don't think Sonos is going to make any hard commitments regarding Google.
No, he has not promised voice access to local libraries. He stated they are looking into implementing it.
upstate 'twist the truth" mike strikes again. :8
For that matter Sonos has not even provided details on what the production release of the Alexa integration will include assuming they ever do bring it out of open beta. Patrick has promised voice access to local libraries and it is assumed the ducking issue will get resolved but beyond that there is no definition of what Alexa integration will be. Based on that I don't think Sonos is going to make any hard commitments regarding Google.
No, he has not promised voice access to local libraries. He stated they are looking into implementing it.
upstate 'twist the truth" mike strikes again. :8
OK then we know even less about what the first voice integration will include when it is finally released from beta so it makes even less sense to speculate on what might be included in the second one.
OK then we know even less about what the first voice integration will include when it is finally released from beta so it makes even less sense to speculate on what might be included in the second one.
Dear Lord, you can twist anything into a negative. You know Sonos never reveals much about future functionality, why in hell would you expect that to change now, except as an excuse to complain?
And speaking of that, for a guy who was for years claiming the worst thing about Sonos is they do not let you freeze at an old version, you spend an inordinate amount of time whining about what is coming in the future, eh? Ever think Sonos just isn't for you mike?
OK then we know even less about what the first voice integration will include when it is finally released from beta so it makes even less sense to speculate on what might be included in the second one.
Dear Lord, you can twist anything into a negative. You know Sonos never reveals much about future functionality, why in hell would you expect that to change now, except as an excuse to complain?
And speaking of that, for a guy who was for years claiming the worst thing about Sonos is they do not let you freeze at an old version, you spend an inordinate amount of time whining about what is coming in the future, eh? Ever think Sonos just isn't for you mike?
I suspect you may be right. Sonos probably isn't for me anymore, but it was once upon a time...
You've been saying that for years now, yet you will never leave . . . :8
Because deep down I really want it to all work out. Maybe if I can just hold on until Google integration is released it will all be all right again. Maybe.
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But true. It is exactly what you do.
Do you like the circumstance too, that by the time we get Google Assistant integration we will loose Googles music streaming service? (Google Play Music gets replaced by Youtube Music by end of year, for which google just removed the plan to support Sonos.)
Has some tragic comedy..
Has some tragic comedy..
IFTTT works now, a bit..:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20lFWrBi6Qc
What do you mean "google removed the plan" ?
I thought the new YTM requires sonos to add it in as a service as well as google support..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20lFWrBi6Qc
What do you mean "google removed the plan" ?
I thought the new YTM requires sonos to add it in as a service as well as google support..
I expect the features of Google integration to at least match Alexa's features at a minimum, when it comes to music playback. Sonos and Google know very well what features customers are looking for, and since they are building this interface from scratch, have a good opportunity to do it right.
When it comes to local libraries though, I'm doubtful it will happen personally. Google is still in this to sell their music services, and allowing playback of local libraries doesn't sell anything. That said, it would be a feature Amazon doesn't have, and therefore push customers to use Google home integration instead Alexa. I don't know if it's going to be enough though. I would guess the number of customers using local libraries is small and dwindling, with no reason in sight for a resurgence.
When it comes to local libraries though, I'm doubtful it will happen personally. Google is still in this to sell their music services, and allowing playback of local libraries doesn't sell anything. That said, it would be a feature Amazon doesn't have, and therefore push customers to use Google home integration instead Alexa. I don't know if it's going to be enough though. I would guess the number of customers using local libraries is small and dwindling, with no reason in sight for a resurgence.
When it comes to local libraries though, I'm doubtful it will happen personally. Google is still in this to sell their music services, and allowing playback of local libraries doesn't sell anything. That said, it would be a feature Amazon doesn't have, and therefore push customers to use Google home integration instead Alexa. I don't know if it's going to be enough though. I would guess the number of customers using local libraries is small and dwindling, with no reason in sight for a resurgence.
Some common complaints expressed about streaming music I have seen on other forums include:
"The service replaced the tracks I like with remastered or live versions I do not like"
"The service lost the rights to many of the songs in my carefully constructed playlist"
"The service provides no way to play rare and out-of-print songs I have collected over the years"
While I agree that local library use has shrunk I also believe there is a floor below which it will not go because folks with the concerns above while small in number will never fall to zero. Much the way vinyl never went away I think local music collections will persist to some degree. The question, as you point out, is whether personal content support is a feature that Google will use to differentiate themselves from other music services or whether media server apps will evolve into the mainstream to the point where they compete with streaming services as an alternative music source because Google and other steamers decide the personal music consumer is not worth pursuing.
Come on! Come on! Come on!
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Please, please me, woah yeah, like I please you?
When it comes to local libraries though, I'm doubtful it will happen personally. Google is still in this to sell their music services, and allowing playback of local libraries doesn't sell anything. That said, it would be a feature Amazon doesn't have, and therefore push customers to use Google home integration instead Alexa. I don't know if it's going to be enough though. I would guess the number of customers using local libraries is small and dwindling, with no reason in sight for a resurgence.
A feature of Amazon Music that’s often overlooked is AutoRip. I have bought many CDs which, for whatever reason, aren’t available on any service, but thanks to AutoRip show up in Amazon Music, including via Alexa. So, I don’t need to bother with ripping them to a local NAS.
Hey, picking this up as it just announced it is out. Has anyone got it working yet? If so, has anyone gotten it working with play 1s? Most articles say only for Beam and Sonos One but there are a couple that say it will work for all as long as you have a google home device (mini, home, etc).
Excited but hopefully not disappointed if no Play 1 support.
Excited but hopefully not disappointed if no Play 1 support.
Still not available in either app store, as of 9:30 AM Pacific. Odd.
Regarding who has something to gain with the restriction, it probably has to do with who gets the data being collected. It would not surprise me if this is at the heart of the artificial limitation. All I can say is that, as a consumer, I am standing at the losing end. As much as I love the sound quality of my Play 5, it is no longer the only kid in the block. It hasn't been for some time. I would not consider purchasing another Sonos product until this is addressed appropriately.
Sonos has stated many times in the past that the requirements for premium or paid subscriptions are decided by the service providers and that they, Sonos, have no input on those requirements.
I have a large library of music sitting in my computer, which has the Sonos Desktop Controller installed. This same collection is in the Google Cloud and available through Google Play Music. I also have an Amazon Music subscription. All those work well with the Sonos app, but I can't touch any of them with the Google Assistant-Sonos bridge. What a let-down. It's the kind of thing that makes you just want to give up. Had a bought a Google Home Max none of this would be happening.
I would bet that it's Google that is requiring a paid premium subscription, not Sonos. Sonos has nothing to gain by such a restriction. The same goes for your Amazon music subscription. You certainly can't access Amazon music through a Google Home Max.
I am a software engineer and I have written silly apps integrated with Google Assistant. All you need is an OAuth server, a server to handle the GA requests, and the will to do it. Two years and all we get is this. Man...
I don't think this is a technical reason, but business. I also don't know that it's accurate to compare your apps to the development and testing required for this integration.
None of that is to say that your frustration is invalid. I just don't know that blaming this on Sonos, or inferring that this is a failure on Sonos development part, is going to be very productive in getting the services and features that you want.
I agree that the decision is probably a business one, but I doubt Google has the blame here. Google is in a mad competition with Amazon, and wants as much hardware as possible integrated with the Google Assistant. Also, having the ability to integrate with users' music library works in favor of Google too, as it shows the potential of having equivalent access to an much larger library via the paid service. Besides, Sonos already has access to music libraries via the app, and that includes libraries shared from home computers via the desktop version of the Connector.
Regarding who has something to gain with the restriction, it probably has to do with who gets the data being collected. It would not surprise me if this is at the heart of the artificial limitation. All I can say is that, as a consumer, I am standing at the losing end. As much as I love the sound quality of my Play 5, it is no longer the only kid in the block. It hasn't been for some time. I would not consider purchasing another Sonos product until this is addressed appropriately.
Regarding who has something to gain with the restriction, it probably has to do with who gets the data being collected. It would not surprise me if this is at the heart of the artificial limitation. All I can say is that, as a consumer, I am standing at the losing end. As much as I love the sound quality of my Play 5, it is no longer the only kid in the block. It hasn't been for some time. I would not consider purchasing another Sonos product until this is addressed appropriately.
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