When does Sonos expect to have support for Google Assistant?
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Hi there. New member here. I don't own any Sonos devices but i'm interested in the Play One and Sonos Beam. I do own a Google home and a couple on Minis, and a Chromecast audio into our soundbar. Google home has really got us into listening to music in the kitchen and around the house, but the sound quality is lacking, hence looking at a Sonos. For me though, I wont buy until there is Google Assistant built in (i'm not interested in Alexa for all the very good reasons listed above).
One question, and sorry if its been discussed, will the planned integration include chromecast support so that i can cast to a Sonos from my phone or from a google home? I would rather rely on the superior microphone in a google mini (and placement can be better), and just have it cast to a Sonos.
Hopefully this will be included and hopefully it will be soon so that i don't go and buy a Sony speaker with the above support already in place.
One question, and sorry if its been discussed, will the planned integration include chromecast support so that i can cast to a Sonos from my phone or from a google home? I would rather rely on the superior microphone in a google mini (and placement can be better), and just have it cast to a Sonos.
Hopefully this will be included and hopefully it will be soon so that i don't go and buy a Sony speaker with the above support already in place.
One question, and sorry if its been discussed, will the planned integration include chromecast support so that i can cast to a Sonos from my phone or from a google home? I would rather rely on the superior microphone in a google mini (and placement can be better), and just have it cast to a Sonos.
If this works like Alexa integration does, which I think is highly likely, then you will be able to make a music request to a google speaker and specify that you want it played on a Sonos speaker. For example "Hey google, play the gorillaz on family room", where family room is the name given to your sonos speaker(s) in the Sonos app. When you do this, you aren't really casting or streaming through your google home. The command goes to the google cloud, then to the sonos cloud, then passed to the sonos speaker which will then stream the music directly. It actually works the same way when you give voice commands to the Beam or Sonos One directly.
Chromecast may eventually become a feature Sonos supports, but I imagine it would be separate from the Google voice integration. Because Apple has airplay 2, and Amazon now has Alexa-cast, the casting market seems to be heating up and I wouldn't be too surprised to see chromecast come to Sonos as a side effect.
As far as speaker placement, I used to think that that I wouldn't want the mic and a music speaker placed in the same location as well. However, the Beam and Sonos One have changed my opinion on that. I can't speaked to whether the mics are better between Sonos and Google.
One question, and sorry if its been discussed, will the planned integration include chromecast support so that i can cast to a Sonos from my phone or from a google home? I would rather rely on the superior microphone in a google mini (and placement can be better), and just have it cast to a Sonos.
That's not 100% true. The Sonos One is the newer product and is thus more future proof than the Play:1. Airplay 2 works on Sonos One, but not on Play:1. It has a better look (IMO) and better manual controls on the device. If these things don't matter to you though, then yes, save your money. Personally, I used to feel the same way until I got a few Sonos Ones myself, but now feel it's worth the extra 50.
One question, and sorry if its been discussed, will the planned integration include chromecast support so that i can cast to a Sonos from my phone or from a google home? I would rather rely on the superior microphone in a google mini (and placement can be better), and just have it cast to a Sonos.
If this works like Alexa integration does, which I think is highly likely, then you will be able to make a music request to a google speaker and specify that you want it played on a Sonos speaker. For example "Hey google, play the gorillaz on family room", where family room is the name given to your sonos speaker(s) in the Sonos app. When you do this, you aren't really casting or streaming through your google home. The command goes to the google cloud, then to the sonos cloud, then passed to the sonos speaker which will then stream the music directly. It actually works the same way when you give voice commands to the Beam or Sonos One directly.
Chromecast may eventually become a feature Sonos supports, but I imagine it would be separate from the Google voice integration. Because Apple has airplay 2, and Amazon now has Alexa-cast, the casting market seems to be heating up and I wouldn't be too surprised to see chromecast come to Sonos as a side effect.
As far as speaker placement, I used to think that that I wouldn't want the mic and a music speaker placed in the same location as well. However, the Beam and Sonos One have changed my opinion on that. I can't speaked to whether the mics are better between Sonos and Google.
Thanks for the info. The reason i would like it to work like cast rather than just instructing to play on my (yet to be owned) Sonos, is with google i can ask it to "play music from x on y" where y can be a single speaker or a group of cast enabled speakers. These may be chromcasts, homes, home minis or any cast enabled speaker (hopefully Sonos). See screenshot of my set up in GH now....
In 2018.
i've got three - how does that work, do wait longer in the same time? 😃
You would need a device with a microphone on, either sonos or hopefully a google mini or home.
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Google has nothing comparable,
How am I video calling from Google Duo then?
Google has nothing comparable,
How am I video calling from Google Duo then?
Can't wait for November then. If we're sitting in the room with the play one now, it goes off with a false recognition all the freaking time. So maybe alexa is easier to say, but far less unique. And i agree with the earlier poster that Alexa is a useless cow. She never knows what i want, but if i holler over to the Google mini in the next room over, always success.
I have been using a One with Alexa since they were released and would have to disagree with you on the natural flow of Alexa. When you request she complete an action for you such as turn on a smart light all you get for confirmation of the action is "Ok". Google assistant say "Ok turning on the...". So if you have smart lights in the dinning room and the living room you know the correct command was heard and completed. Also the range of questions you can ask Google is much higher. Try asking your Alexa what wine goes best with an meal for instance. it knows nothing without you going through the painstaking process of searching though Alexa skills, finding one that is any good, and then adding the skill to your account. Google just knows what you want and speaks ot of has it show up on the screen of your paired device.
I have been using a One with Alexa since they were released and would have to disagree with you on the natural flow of Alexa. When you request she complete an action for you such as turn on a smart light all you get for confirmation of the action is "Ok". Google assistant say "Ok turning on the...". So if you have smart lights in the dinning room and the living room you know the correct command was heard and completed. Also the range of questions you can ask Google is much higher. Try asking your Alexa what wine goes best with an meal for instance. it knows nothing without you going through the painstaking process of searching though Alexa skills, finding one that is any good, and then adding the skill to your account. Google just knows what you want and speaks ot of has it show up on the screen of your paired device.
I think Chicks was referring to wake work more than the conversational skills and clarity differences. I agree with that point. I also adopted Alexa first and got used to it way before trying out a Google mini. When Sonos gets Google integration, I'll probably give it another test, but not motivated to do so right now.
I'd also say that I don't really use the voice assistant for much more than the basics, and rarely end up with questions beyond what Alexa can handle. That is partially because I don't think to ask and partially because I'm a pretty basic guy.
I disagree. If I ask for lights on, then the confirmation it worked is that the lights come on! Once that happens, I want to return to my music or issue more instructions, not wait around while everything I said gets read back to me.
One question, and sorry if its been discussed, will the planned integration include chromecast support so that i can cast to a Sonos from my phone or from a google home? I would rather rely on the superior microphone in a google mini (and placement can be better), and just have it cast to a Sonos.
If this works like Alexa integration does, which I think is highly likely, then you will be able to make a music request to a google speaker and specify that you want it played on a Sonos speaker. For example "Hey google, play the gorillaz on family room", where family room is the name given to your sonos speaker(s) in the Sonos app. When you do this, you aren't really casting or streaming through your google home. The command goes to the google cloud, then to the sonos cloud, then passed to the sonos speaker which will then stream the music directly. It actually works the same way when you give voice commands to the Beam or Sonos One directly.
Chromecast may eventually become a feature Sonos supports, but I imagine it would be separate from the Google voice integration. Because Apple has airplay 2, and Amazon now has Alexa-cast, the casting market seems to be heating up and I wouldn't be too surprised to see chromecast come to Sonos as a side effect.
As far as speaker placement, I used to think that that I wouldn't want the mic and a music speaker placed in the same location as well. However, the Beam and Sonos One have changed my opinion on that. I can't speaked to whether the mics are better between Sonos and Google.
Thanks for the info. The reason i would like it to work like cast rather than just instructing to play on my (yet to be owned) Sonos, is with google i can ask it to "play music from x on y" where y can be a single speaker or a group of cast enabled speakers. These may be chromcasts, homes, home minis or any cast enabled speaker (hopefully Sonos). See screenshot of my set up in GH now....
You can already do this. I've had it set up like this for about 8 or 9 months now. I use Google Home minis, Chromecast Audios, and Sonos Connects. I tell the Google Assistant what I want it to play and where (including grouped rooms), and it plays. Not sure about the other Sonos products, but the connect has a line-in and auto detection - so when it detects a signal from the Chromecast Audio, it automatically switches to the line-in input and at a preset volume.
One question, and sorry if its been discussed, will the planned integration include chromecast support so that i can cast to a Sonos from my phone or from a google home? I would rather rely on the superior microphone in a google mini (and placement can be better), and just have it cast to a Sonos.
If this works like Alexa integration does, which I think is highly likely, then you will be able to make a music request to a google speaker and specify that you want it played on a Sonos speaker. For example "Hey google, play the gorillaz on family room", where family room is the name given to your sonos speaker(s) in the Sonos app. When you do this, you aren't really casting or streaming through your google home. The command goes to the google cloud, then to the sonos cloud, then passed to the sonos speaker which will then stream the music directly. It actually works the same way when you give voice commands to the Beam or Sonos One directly.
Chromecast may eventually become a feature Sonos supports, but I imagine it would be separate from the Google voice integration. Because Apple has airplay 2, and Amazon now has Alexa-cast, the casting market seems to be heating up and I wouldn't be too surprised to see chromecast come to Sonos as a side effect.
As far as speaker placement, I used to think that that I wouldn't want the mic and a music speaker placed in the same location as well. However, the Beam and Sonos One have changed my opinion on that. I can't speaked to whether the mics are better between Sonos and Google.
Thanks for the info. The reason i would like it to work like cast rather than just instructing to play on my (yet to be owned) Sonos, is with google i can ask it to "play music from x on y" where y can be a single speaker or a group of cast enabled speakers. These may be chromcasts, homes, home minis or any cast enabled speaker (hopefully Sonos). See screenshot of my set up in GH now....
You can already do this. I've had it set up like this for about 8 or 9 months now. I use Google Home minis, Chromecast Audios, and Sonos Connects. I tell the Google Assistant what I want it to play and where (including grouped rooms), and it plays. Not sure about the other Sonos products, but the connect has a line-in and auto detection - so when it detects a signal from the Chromecast Audio, it automatically switches to the line-in input and at a preset volume.
Yes i know you can with a chromecast audio. You can't with Sonos on its own. My question was, will the google integration include using a Sonos as a cast enabled speaker (not just as a smart self contained speaker). That way i can ask any of my Google homes to play on any sonos speaker (from anywhere in the world).
Hi everyone, I posted an update to the status of Google Assistant coming to Sonos here which also links to our Blog. We'll make sure to keep you updated with any news we have to share. Thanks for your patience, and we are as excited to bring you Google Assistant as you are to get it. We're hard at work on building the integration and look forward to getting it in your hands as soon as it's ready.
I would also like to return the 2 units I bought because of no Google Assistant. How is that handled?
Is there any plan to allow old Play 1 (or any Play) speakers to be targets? They already have partial Chromecast support (it's Android only..). I already have Mini's everywhere, I just want to be able to tell them to target the Sonos for music.
Sonos wont give any details of what exactly bringing "google assistant" to sonos will mean.......
For that matter Sonos has not even provided details on what the production release of the Alexa integration will include assuming they ever do bring it out of open beta. Patrick has promised voice access to local libraries and it is assumed the ducking issue will get resolved but beyond that there is no definition of what Alexa integration will be. Based on that I don't think Sonos is going to make any hard commitments regarding Google.
For that matter Sonos has not even provided details on what the production release of the Alexa integration will include assuming they ever do bring it out of open beta. Patrick has promised voice access to local libraries and it is assumed the ducking issue will get resolved but beyond that there is no definition of what Alexa integration will be. Based on that I don't think Sonos is going to make any hard commitments regarding Google.
No, he has not promised voice access to local libraries. He stated they are looking into implementing it.
upstate 'twist the truth" mike strikes again. :8
For that matter Sonos has not even provided details on what the production release of the Alexa integration will include assuming they ever do bring it out of open beta. Patrick has promised voice access to local libraries and it is assumed the ducking issue will get resolved but beyond that there is no definition of what Alexa integration will be. Based on that I don't think Sonos is going to make any hard commitments regarding Google.
No, he has not promised voice access to local libraries. He stated they are looking into implementing it.
upstate 'twist the truth" mike strikes again. :8
OK then we know even less about what the first voice integration will include when it is finally released from beta so it makes even less sense to speculate on what might be included in the second one.
OK then we know even less about what the first voice integration will include when it is finally released from beta so it makes even less sense to speculate on what might be included in the second one.
Dear Lord, you can twist anything into a negative. You know Sonos never reveals much about future functionality, why in hell would you expect that to change now, except as an excuse to complain?
And speaking of that, for a guy who was for years claiming the worst thing about Sonos is they do not let you freeze at an old version, you spend an inordinate amount of time whining about what is coming in the future, eh? Ever think Sonos just isn't for you mike?
OK then we know even less about what the first voice integration will include when it is finally released from beta so it makes even less sense to speculate on what might be included in the second one.
Dear Lord, you can twist anything into a negative. You know Sonos never reveals much about future functionality, why in hell would you expect that to change now, except as an excuse to complain?
And speaking of that, for a guy who was for years claiming the worst thing about Sonos is they do not let you freeze at an old version, you spend an inordinate amount of time whining about what is coming in the future, eh? Ever think Sonos just isn't for you mike?
I suspect you may be right. Sonos probably isn't for me anymore, but it was once upon a time...
You've been saying that for years now, yet you will never leave . . . :8
Because deep down I really want it to all work out. Maybe if I can just hold on until Google integration is released it will all be all right again. Maybe.
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