playbar and comittment for DTS playback firmware upgrade
I have just added the Sonos Playbar to my samsung smart TV and have discovered the lack of DTS functionality through reading this forum. I find it disappointing that the best we can get is a stereo effect through the playbar? My originial search was based on identifying a way of using my existing Onkyo nr509 AV Amp with the playbar however that appears to be a no go option as well. The concept of buying and adding the playbar as a step change to the surround sound system I had has left me feeling I have done the wrong thing? Slightly cheated in a sense too, I hear what Sonos are saying that the majority of content is streamed and agree we use netflix however I also enjoy having a collection of Bluray discs and feel Sonos should fulfil both requirements. If anyone can give us an idea as to when this may be re-considered as it looks like Sonos have closed the subject down from reading through the forums. Do I revert to my old system and return the Playbar to John Lewis could buy a couple Play3's instead?
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There are options for Blu-rays that encode the audio track in DTS if you're seeking full 5.1 via Dolby Digital. There are several models of blu-ray player available which are capable of transcoding from DTS to Dolby, and the Xbox One is capable of doing this as well (if you happen to be an Xbox owner).
We're always evaluating industry trends for future developments but at this time the other posters are correct - there are no plans to implement DTS for the PLAYBAR in the future.
Fair enough James. If connecting a Blu-ray affects your TV reception then something VERY strange is going on. If you can face one more go then the full set of audio settings that I use is:
Digital Output - Bitstream (re-encoded Dolby D)
PCM Downsampling - On
Dynamic Range Control - Auto
Downmixing Mode -Surround Compatible
DTS Neo:6 Mode - Off
And to test the Blu-ray you must run the optical cable from the BR to the Playbar.
Good luck!
John
There are options for Blu-rays that encode the audio track in DTS if you're seeking full 5.1 via Dolby Digital. There are several models of blu-ray player available which are capable of transcoding from DTS to Dolby, and the Xbox One is capable of doing this as well (if you happen to be an Xbox owner).
We're always evaluating industry trends for future developments but at this time the other posters are correct - there are no plans to implement DTS for the PLAYBAR in the future.
Hi John, no luck when I change audio settings to re-encoded Dolby D plus my tv reception is very poor since I connected blu ray player?. I will cut my losses on blu ray player,feeling tv is just not compatible but I have come up with another option. In another Room I have a sky HD box and playbar works perfectly with that I might just bring all my cables in to main room and work play bar off sky HD box till I upgrade tv. A lot of hassle but at least I know it will work.Regards james.
There are options for Blu-rays that encode the audio track in DTS if you're seeking full 5.1 via Dolby Digital. There are several models of blu-ray player available which are capable of transcoding from DTS to Dolby, and the Xbox One is capable of doing this as well (if you happen to be an Xbox owner).
We're always evaluating industry trends for future developments but at this time the other posters are correct - there are no plans to implement DTS for the PLAYBAR in the future.
Hi again User 176094. If your HDMI is going from your Blu-ray out to an HDMI input on your TV, and the optical from your Blu-ray to the Playbar then there is no way for the TV to talk to the Playbar (although I'm not clear where you have the optical coming from, the BR or the TV). Try the following as two separate experiments:
1 With connections HDMI from BR out to TV in, optical from BR to Playbar, set the Blu-ray audio settings to show "Bitstream (re-encoded Dolby D)". Play a DTS encoded Blu-ray and see if you get sound. You can check in your Sonos controller app that you are getting DD5.1.
2. Take the optical out of the Blu-ray and run from the TV instead. You should get sound from the TV. Play your Blu-ray again - you should get sound but likely to be stereo only because processed through the TV.
I'm assuming in all this that you have done the full Playbar set up as specified in the booklet that comes with the Playbar.
Please post back the results and we'll go from there.
John
There are options for Blu-rays that encode the audio track in DTS if you're seeking full 5.1 via Dolby Digital. There are several models of blu-ray player available which are capable of transcoding from DTS to Dolby, and the Xbox One is capable of doing this as well (if you happen to be an Xbox owner).
We're always evaluating industry trends for future developments but at this time the other posters are correct - there are no plans to implement DTS for the PLAYBAR in the future.
Just connected the blu ray john from box so will try change settings later.basically my sound bar is only playing music wireless tru deezer etc bit my problem is getting sound from my tv. I have a HDMI cable going from tv to blu ray and optical out put to playbar. The converter was a cheap option but have been informed my tv output didn't supporter the converter.will try and change the audio settings when I regain my sanity. Thanks for reply. Get there eventually.
There are options for Blu-rays that encode the audio track in DTS if you're seeking full 5.1 via Dolby Digital. There are several models of blu-ray player available which are capable of transcoding from DTS to Dolby, and the Xbox One is capable of doing this as well (if you happen to be an Xbox owner).
We're always evaluating industry trends for future developments but at this time the other posters are correct - there are no plans to implement DTS for the PLAYBAR in the future.
User 176094. I had to change the audio settings on my F6500 to transcode DTS to DD5.1 and from the H6500 manual it looks like the same is required. Have you tried this or just used it "out of the box"? And when you say "no sound from tv to soundbar" what do you mean exactly? What have you got connected to what? What sort of converter do you have? I'm very confident this can be made to work for you. John
There are options for Blu-rays that encode the audio track in DTS if you're seeking full 5.1 via Dolby Digital. There are several models of blu-ray player available which are capable of transcoding from DTS to Dolby, and the Xbox One is capable of doing this as well (if you happen to be an Xbox owner).
We're always evaluating industry trends for future developments but at this time the other posters are correct - there are no plans to implement DTS for the PLAYBAR in the future.
I have purchased a converter and now a bluray samsung h6500 and still getting no sound from my tv to soundbar .I will be returning sound bar as I am afraid if I buy a tv it will be non compatible also.shame.
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The switch worked perfectly, now I have true surround sound when watching Apple TV, the difference is phenomenal. Then I switched to my new Blu-ray player well all the previews sounded really great I'm thinking man this is what it's all about. Surround sound was fantastic just what I wanted. Then the main feature started and no sound I'm thinking what is wrong with my new Blu-ray player perhaps I have a bad disk. So I put in the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle movie and it played perfectly beautiful surround sound. Then I put in another movie and no sound from the feature film, so I cursed my new Blu-ray player, thinking it's the problem.
Then I started doing research on the internet trying to figure out what's wrong with my new Blu-ray player. Then I came across this thing called DTS and started reading blogs about how the Sonos is not configured to receive the DTS signal. So I just couldn't believe what I was reading that the problem is my Sonos and not the Blu-ray player. Sonos doesn't support DTS what the heck I replaced a perfectly good Panasonic Home Theater system with what I thought at the time was the most innovative advanced sound system I could buy. Well I must say the Playbar sounds beautiful when playing music from the Sonos app. However I feel cheated when I want to use the system as a home theater. Sonos should have never advertised this system as a home theater when in fact it's not. Enhanced 2 channel surround sound is not what I wanted.
I'm sorry if I wasn't clear. This is not (directly) related to the DTS issue. I use a hdmi switch to bypass my tv that blocks DD5.1 and DTS. Because of this, there is no direct link between the tv and the playbar. So every INPUT device that is connected to the switch gets its sound perfectly. But the tv is no input device on the switch so when I play something from the smarthub there is of course no sound.
The switch worked perfectly, now I have true surround sound when watching Apple TV, the difference is phenomenal. Then I switched to my new Blu-ray player well all the previews sounded really great I'm thinking man this is what it's all about. Surround sound was fantastic just what I wanted. Then the main feature started and no sound I'm thinking what is wrong with my new Blu-ray player perhaps I have a bad disk. So I put in the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle movie and it played perfectly beautiful surround sound. Then I put in another movie and no sound from the feature film, so I cursed my new Blu-ray player, thinking it's the problem.
Then I started doing research on the internet trying to figure out what's wrong with my new Blu-ray player. Then I came across this thing called DTS and started reading blogs about how the Sonos is not configured to receive the DTS signal. So I just couldn't believe what I was reading that the problem is my Sonos and not the Blu-ray player. Sonos doesn't support DTS what the heck I replaced a perfectly good Panasonic Home Theater system with what I thought at the time was the most innovative advanced sound system I could buy. Well I must say the Playbar sounds beautiful when playing music from the Sonos app. However I feel cheated when I want to use the system as a home theater. Sonos should have never advertised this system as a home theater when in fact it's not. Enhanced 2 channel surround sound is not what I wanted.
Does the Netflix app output DTS from the SmartHub app then?
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The switch worked perfectly, now I have true surround sound when watching Apple TV, the difference is phenomenal. Then I switched to my new Blu-ray player well all the previews sounded really great I'm thinking man this is what it's all about. Surround sound was fantastic just what I wanted. Then the main feature started and no sound I'm thinking what is wrong with my new Blu-ray player perhaps I have a bad disk. So I put in the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle movie and it played perfectly beautiful surround sound. Then I put in another movie and no sound from the feature film, so I cursed my new Blu-ray player, thinking it's the problem.
Then I started doing research on the internet trying to figure out what's wrong with my new Blu-ray player. Then I came across this thing called DTS and started reading blogs about how the Sonos is not configured to receive the DTS signal. So I just couldn't believe what I was reading that the problem is my Sonos and not the Blu-ray player. Sonos doesn't support DTS what the heck I replaced a perfectly good Panasonic Home Theater system with what I thought at the time was the most innovative advanced sound system I could buy. Well I must say the Playbar sounds beautiful when playing music from the Sonos app. However I feel cheated when I want to use the system as a home theater. Sonos should have never advertised this system as a home theater when in fact it's not. Enhanced 2 channel surround sound is not what I wanted.
Nobody?
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Clearly your understanding of turning a profit matches your understanding of the sonos PlayBar
I'll sell you mine for £1000 because you find the product so awesome.
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Every one complaining about Sonos Playbar lack of DTS then sell it to me, I'll offer you £175 a PlayBar boxed with all the leads etc, and if you selling your Play 1, 3, or 5's then I'll have them too
Case in point 1) I just went through a selection (old to new) of my blu-ray collection and about half were DTS. If I don't have a blu-ray player that supports transcoding I cannot use these discs with the Playbar. Point to note, the newer movies had a much higher percentage of only carrying DTS tracks (Sonos take note - this problem is only going to get worse for you).
Case in point 2) - on the Sonos web site these exact words are stated in the home theatre section "With four versatile performers – PLAYBAR, SUB, and a pair of rear speakers – you’ve got immersive 5.1 sound. And with it? The power to play anything and make it sound amazing."
Actually - you cant play anything. In many countries including the one I live in, this is called misleading advertising.
Case in point 3) - on the specific Playbar page it says these words "Plays all sources plugged in to your HD TV: satellite boxes, Blu-Ray players, and video game consoles. If it’s connected to your HD TV, PLAYBAR will play it."
Actually, you can't. Once again totally misleading advertising.
Case in point 4) - a huge proportion of Sonos sales will be done in stores like BestBuy (US), MediaMarkt (mainland Europe), and Currys/PC World (UK) where badly informed sales people who don't know better will sell a Playbar to a customer who at best has quickly read the 'info' on the Sonos website. Rightly or wrongly, the huge majority of consumers do not do vast amounts of research before buying products - people like that are in the minority.
This is all constructive feedback. No whining here. Nothing but pure and simple facts. I am sure there are plenty of people who are sufficiently disgruntled with Sonos to raise the misleading advertising with the trading standards organisations in their respective countries. I personally am not one of them as for 'music in every room', Sonos is hard to beat. But they have to stop misleading people about their home theatre credentials....
@ Joe. Lol, that's exactly what i did. Bought a Yamaha system for the TV. But until Sonos do something about their advertising others are going to go the same way you did and I nearly did :-D
@ Donovan. A lot of the Dolby Digital tracks are not the main feature audio though. For instance, the Dolby Digital track on Spiderman 2 is actually descriptive track for the visually impaired - i found that out the funny way :-)
I totally agree with your comments on the music front, Sonos is awesome for that, but your comments about the 1 in 100 just goes to prove that there will be a whole load of people getting a Playbar home and wondering why they are not getting any audio from their blu-rays.
Me? For now I will use Sonos for nothing but music - for which it is great.
Last comment from me 🙂
Case in point 1) I just went through a selection (old to new) of my blu-ray collection and about half were DTS. If I don't have a blu-ray player that supports transcoding I cannot use these discs with the Playbar. Point to note, the newer movies had a much higher percentage of only carrying DTS tracks (Sonos take note - this problem is only going to get worse for you).
Case in point 2) - on the Sonos web site these exact words are stated in the home theatre section "With four versatile performers – PLAYBAR, SUB, and a pair of rear speakers – you’ve got immersive 5.1 sound. And with it? The power to play anything and make it sound amazing."
Actually - you cant play anything. In many countries including the one I live in, this is called misleading advertising.
Case in point 3) - on the specific Playbar page it says these words "Plays all sources plugged in to your HD TV: satellite boxes, Blu-Ray players, and video game consoles. If it’s connected to your HD TV, PLAYBAR will play it."
Actually, you can't. Once again totally misleading advertising.
Case in point 4) - a huge proportion of Sonos sales will be done in stores like BestBuy (US), MediaMarkt (mainland Europe), and Currys/PC World (UK) where badly informed sales people who don't know better will sell a Playbar to a customer who at best has quickly read the 'info' on the Sonos website. Rightly or wrongly, the huge majority of consumers do not do vast amounts of research before buying products - people like that are in the minority.
This is all constructive feedback. No whining here. Nothing but pure and simple facts. I am sure there are plenty of people who are sufficiently disgruntled with Sonos to raise the misleading advertising with the trading standards organisations in their respective countries. I personally am not one of them as for 'music in every room', Sonos is hard to beat. But they have to stop misleading people about their home theatre credentials....
Was sarcastic about the lawyer... My point was if your not happy about something do something to fix it. I put it in the box and stop worrying about that.
@Donovan, you just proved my point. This is not an HiFi home theater system and it is good only for the average Joe (shit that's my name!)
Happy new year!
Case in point 1) I just went through a selection (old to new) of my blu-ray collection and about half were DTS. If I don't have a blu-ray player that supports transcoding I cannot use these discs with the Playbar. Point to note, the newer movies had a much higher percentage of only carrying DTS tracks (Sonos take note - this problem is only going to get worse for you).
Case in point 2) - on the Sonos web site these exact words are stated in the home theatre section "With four versatile performers – PLAYBAR, SUB, and a pair of rear speakers – you’ve got immersive 5.1 sound. And with it? The power to play anything and make it sound amazing."
Actually - you cant play anything. In many countries including the one I live in, this is called misleading advertising.
Case in point 3) - on the specific Playbar page it says these words "Plays all sources plugged in to your HD TV: satellite boxes, Blu-Ray players, and video game consoles. If it’s connected to your HD TV, PLAYBAR will play it."
Actually, you can't. Once again totally misleading advertising.
Case in point 4) - a huge proportion of Sonos sales will be done in stores like BestBuy (US), MediaMarkt (mainland Europe), and Currys/PC World (UK) where badly informed sales people who don't know better will sell a Playbar to a customer who at best has quickly read the 'info' on the Sonos website. Rightly or wrongly, the huge majority of consumers do not do vast amounts of research before buying products - people like that are in the minority.
This is all constructive feedback. No whining here. Nothing but pure and simple facts. I am sure there are plenty of people who are sufficiently disgruntled with Sonos to raise the misleading advertising with the trading standards organisations in their respective countries. I personally am not one of them as for 'music in every room', Sonos is hard to beat. But they have to stop misleading people about their home theatre credentials....
Actually that is exactly not what whining is:
Whine: to snivel or complain in a peevish, self-pitying way.
No self pity here. I have just stated facts. I didn't buy a Playbar because I do research before I buy. But others have not and others will not before they make the same mistake. It sounds as though you have more grounds for a lawyer than I do though.
I accept that Sonos have said the Playbar will never support DTS and I applaud them for being this brave in an increasingly fierce environment where established competitors (Bose) and new competitors (too many to mention) are flooding the marketplace with competitive products. They may have 80+% market share now but many a great company (Microsoft & Nokia to name but two) have been arrogant as a result of their market share and found themselves in difficulties because of it when something more innovative comes along (Google, Apple).
Another fact - I would happily of bought a Playbar had it supported DTS and if they added it now I probably still would buy one. Make of that what you will.
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Case in point 1) I just went through a selection (old to new) of my blu-ray collection and about half were DTS. If I don't have a blu-ray player that supports transcoding I cannot use these discs with the Playbar. Point to note, the newer movies had a much higher percentage of only carrying DTS tracks (Sonos take note - this problem is only going to get worse for you).
Case in point 2) - on the Sonos web site these exact words are stated in the home theatre section "With four versatile performers – PLAYBAR, SUB, and a pair of rear speakers – you’ve got immersive 5.1 sound. And with it? The power to play anything and make it sound amazing."
Actually - you cant play anything. In many countries including the one I live in, this is called misleading advertising.
Case in point 3) - on the specific Playbar page it says these words "Plays all sources plugged in to your HD TV: satellite boxes, Blu-Ray players, and video game consoles. If it’s connected to your HD TV, PLAYBAR will play it."
Actually, you can't. Once again totally misleading advertising.
Case in point 4) - a huge proportion of Sonos sales will be done in stores like BestBuy (US), MediaMarkt (mainland Europe), and Currys/PC World (UK) where badly informed sales people who don't know better will sell a Playbar to a customer who at best has quickly read the 'info' on the Sonos website. Rightly or wrongly, the huge majority of consumers do not do vast amounts of research before buying products - people like that are in the minority.
This is all constructive feedback. No whining here. Nothing but pure and simple facts. I am sure there are plenty of people who are sufficiently disgruntled with Sonos to raise the misleading advertising with the trading standards organisations in their respective countries. I personally am not one of them as for 'music in every room', Sonos is hard to beat. But they have to stop misleading people about their home theatre credentials....
Bahahahaha Hire a Lawyer!!! I would just put it back In the box and buy something else. I'm a sales person in Australia and have worked for 2 of the major electrical companies. I personally have a large Bluray collection and not one of these has DTS only sound, so to be fair I only bring up no DTS support to people who clearly no what DTS is. In a 10 min sales demonstration I'm going to show what SONOS does, awesome music with increased sound reproduction. Then I show them the surround setup as it would be in their own home. Of the 100 people I showed this to only 1 person asked what audio came out of the tv. I'm not going to spend another 5-15 mins explaining what DTS is and how they probably don't use it.
Case in point 1) I just went through a selection (old to new) of my blu-ray collection and about half were DTS. If I don't have a blu-ray player that supports transcoding I cannot use these discs with the Playbar. Point to note, the newer movies had a much higher percentage of only carrying DTS tracks (Sonos take note - this problem is only going to get worse for you).
Case in point 2) - on the Sonos web site these exact words are stated in the home theatre section "With four versatile performers – PLAYBAR, SUB, and a pair of rear speakers – you’ve got immersive 5.1 sound. And with it? The power to play anything and make it sound amazing."
Actually - you cant play anything. In many countries including the one I live in, this is called misleading advertising.
Case in point 3) - on the specific Playbar page it says these words "Plays all sources plugged in to your HD TV: satellite boxes, Blu-Ray players, and video game consoles. If it’s connected to your HD TV, PLAYBAR will play it."
Actually, you can't. Once again totally misleading advertising.
Case in point 4) - a huge proportion of Sonos sales will be done in stores like BestBuy (US), MediaMarkt (mainland Europe), and Currys/PC World (UK) where badly informed sales people who don't know better will sell a Playbar to a customer who at best has quickly read the 'info' on the Sonos website. Rightly or wrongly, the huge majority of consumers do not do vast amounts of research before buying products - people like that are in the minority.
This is all constructive feedback. No whining here. Nothing but pure and simple facts. I am sure there are plenty of people who are sufficiently disgruntled with Sonos to raise the misleading advertising with the trading standards organisations in their respective countries. I personally am not one of them as for 'music in every room', Sonos is hard to beat. But they have to stop misleading people about their home theatre credentials....
I'm sorry but this is what whining is. If you think you have been mislead (like I was) then do something about. Writing here won't change anything to the fact that this is a Mickey Mouse home theater solution good for my mom and dad... It doesn't support DTS and never will. This is a fact.
So hire a lawyer and send them a formal notice, that should get their attention.
Good luck
Their is a big difference between whining and making constructive comments...
Case in point 1) I just went through a selection (old to new) of my blu-ray collection and about half were DTS. If I don't have a blu-ray player that supports transcoding I cannot use these discs with the Playbar. Point to note, the newer movies had a much higher percentage of only carrying DTS tracks (Sonos take note - this problem is only going to get worse for you).
Case in point 2) - on the Sonos web site these exact words are stated in the home theatre section "With four versatile performers – PLAYBAR, SUB, and a pair of rear speakers – you’ve got immersive 5.1 sound. And with it? The power to play anything and make it sound amazing."
Actually - you cant play anything. In many countries including the one I live in, this is called misleading advertising.
Case in point 3) - on the specific Playbar page it says these words "Plays all sources plugged in to your HD TV: satellite boxes, Blu-Ray players, and video game consoles. If it’s connected to your HD TV, PLAYBAR will play it."
Actually, you can't. Once again totally misleading advertising.
Case in point 4) - a huge proportion of Sonos sales will be done in stores like BestBuy (US), MediaMarkt (mainland Europe), and Currys/PC World (UK) where badly informed sales people who don't know better will sell a Playbar to a customer who at best has quickly read the 'info' on the Sonos website. Rightly or wrongly, the huge majority of consumers do not do vast amounts of research before buying products - people like that are in the minority.
This is all constructive feedback. No whining here. Nothing but pure and simple facts. I am sure there are plenty of people who are sufficiently disgruntled with Sonos to raise the misleading advertising with the trading standards organisations in their respective countries. I personally am not one of them as for 'music in every room', Sonos is hard to beat. But they have to stop misleading people about their home theatre credentials....
Case in point 1) I just went through a selection (old to new) of my blu-ray collection and about half were DTS. If I don't have a blu-ray player that supports transcoding I cannot use these discs with the Playbar. Point to note, the newer movies had a much higher percentage of only carrying DTS tracks (Sonos take note - this problem is only going to get worse for you).
Case in point 2) - on the Sonos web site these exact words are stated in the home theatre section "With four versatile performers – PLAYBAR, SUB, and a pair of rear speakers – you’ve got immersive 5.1 sound. And with it? The power to play anything and make it sound amazing."
Actually - you cant play anything. In many countries including the one I live in, this is called misleading advertising.
Case in point 3) - on the specific Playbar page it says these words "Plays all sources plugged in to your HD TV: satellite boxes, Blu-Ray players, and video game consoles. If it’s connected to your HD TV, PLAYBAR will play it."
Actually, you can't. Once again totally misleading advertising.
Case in point 4) - a huge proportion of Sonos sales will be done in stores like BestBuy (US), MediaMarkt (mainland Europe), and Currys/PC World (UK) where badly informed sales people who don't know better will sell a Playbar to a customer who at best has quickly read the 'info' on the Sonos website. Rightly or wrongly, the huge majority of consumers do not do vast amounts of research before buying products - people like that are in the minority.
This is all constructive feedback. No whining here. Nothing but pure and simple facts. I am sure there are plenty of people who are sufficiently disgruntled with Sonos to raise the misleading advertising with the trading standards organisations in their respective countries. I personally am not one of them as for 'music in every room', Sonos is hard to beat. But they have to stop misleading people about their home theatre credentials....
Well, I came here once to make sure I wasn't dreaming when I noticed my 800$ "HiFi" (LOL) Playbar didn't support DTS. I was shocked, pissed and frustrated about Sonos for not supporting DTS but mostly mad at me for assuming things like this at my age!
I was also within my "evaluation" period at Futureshop and this thing went back right away.
Yes you can get a switch box, you can convert DTS to DD different ways, you can matrix 2 channels in 5, but the reality is, if you want real HiFi home theather you need to get the right stuff and it's not a Playbar, Period. If you can't tell the difference between DTS and fake 5.1 the Sonos is good enough and it is useful and simple as hell... It's just not HiFi as Sonos claim it to be, not for theatre anyway.
Stop whining and do something about it. If you want DTS get something else.
I was also within my "evaluation" period at Futureshop and this thing went back right away.
Yes you can get a switch box, you can convert DTS to DD different ways, you can matrix 2 channels in 5, but the reality is, if you want real HiFi home theather you need to get the right stuff and it's not a Playbar, Period. If you can't tell the difference between DTS and fake 5.1 the Sonos is good enough and it is useful and simple as hell... It's just not HiFi as Sonos claim it to be, not for theatre anyway.
Stop whining and do something about it. If you want DTS get something else.
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The sheer amount of whinging is just insane. I suggest those that want DTS a through a specific product shouldn't buy ANY system at all. Within months a newer and better sound source will be available such as Dolby Atmos and unless you buy an Onkyo 636 or higher you won't have it. And then as I said earlier HDMI will change and then all the current systems will be redundant again. I'll say it again so the 1% of audiophiles get it, SONOS decided to use software updates to enhance their products as technology improves. Who really knows what DTS is planning or what SONOS has planned in the future or future products. The Play 3 and Play 5 haven't had hardware updates, so to think they will make a Playbar 2.0 is silly and unnecessary. In regards to not being able to use Spotify, grow a pair and use a different steaming system. The majority of complaints remind me of a 2 yr old chucking a tantrum in the shops because they can't have the toy they want.
@ Fran - how about doing some research before commenting? The whole premise of Sonos is its simplicity. You plug - you play. It has been the one and only hifi purchase I have made that my wife and kids could instantly use and have kept using.
Now luckily for me, i didnt invest in a Playbar before finding out it didnt support DTS, but you can imagine my disappointment when I realised that my desire for a one-house system could not be fulfilled with Sonos without hacks that make the system no longer wife and kid friendly.
Furthermore, more and more TVs are passing DTS via the inputs from connected devices or directly from in-built apps like the awesome Plex app on Samsung.
The people on this thread are only here to voice their disappointment. I bet everyone who has complained would jump for joy if Sonos added DTS to the playbar - myself included.
Now luckily for me, i didnt invest in a Playbar before finding out it didnt support DTS, but you can imagine my disappointment when I realised that my desire for a one-house system could not be fulfilled with Sonos without hacks that make the system no longer wife and kid friendly.
Furthermore, more and more TVs are passing DTS via the inputs from connected devices or directly from in-built apps like the awesome Plex app on Samsung.
The people on this thread are only here to voice their disappointment. I bet everyone who has complained would jump for joy if Sonos added DTS to the playbar - myself included.
I'm amazed at this outrage against simply transcoding DTS-only tracks to DD. Chances are your players will do it and your TV will throw it through TOSLINK. If not, simply get rid of your discs and just use Kodi/XBMC or whatever... I'm quite confident there's no single human being capable of telling apart DTS from DD in a double blind test.
Sonos has already given an statement about this issue: there will be no DTS support for the Playbar and they didn't ever told it would. Coming to this thread just to keep pestering instead of trying to find workarounds or alternatives looks childish and a waste of time that should have been better spent researching before purchasing.
Sonos has already given an statement about this issue: there will be no DTS support for the Playbar and they didn't ever told it would. Coming to this thread just to keep pestering instead of trying to find workarounds or alternatives looks childish and a waste of time that should have been better spent researching before purchasing.
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You are right to feel the way you do, it is a lot of money to spend on a inferior product. Sonos advertises the ability to create a home theater with the purchase of 1 Playbar, 1 Sub, and 2 Play1's. At a cost of around 2 grand, that is a lot of cash to pay for a system that does not support DTS the latest and greatest sound format.
I have that very same system, with 2 additional play 5's in living room and 2 play 1's in my bedroom. For someone looking for a true Home theater they need to look else where. With that being said I'll never give up on Sonos, I love playing music on the Sonos. The ability to play music throughout the house, the user friendly app, the sound quality blows me away. I mainly listen to my own iTunes library and Pandora I'm a big fan of Pandora. Sonos is a high quality innovative product. Over time I'm sure will see advancements made on the Playbar including the DTS support.
It's not perfect and what is now a days with technology changing as fast as it does. I'm sticking with Sonos, for simplicity sake my next TV will have the ability to pass the DD or the DTS signal to the Playbar.
I wish I could afford (not just financially) to do similar. However, i believe that Sonos is a gnat's chuff from getting it right for 99% of us rather than the 75% (I admit, I've just completely made up those stats, but you get the point, yes?).
The 'simple' addition of DTS, Spotify Connect and AirPlay would go someway. Sonos could offer a discounted switch to dissatisfied users or a trade-in for Playbar 2.0
Sonos should and could be untouchable if it made such improvements. Us 'trolls' are often told to go elsewhere or stop whinging, but where would the fun be in that?! There'd also be less push to drive Sonos and others forward in the quest for perfection and betterment.
I did lots of research but still got bitten. I want Sonos to succeed - it's in my interest as a customer that they do so. I also believe that they have the potential to remain untouchable with just some simple improvements. I could swap it out, but I would prefer not to, for now. I already did that with Squeezebox and Pure products.
I like when some users, even if they added lots of post are adding some remarks to user who they just want to give them feedback.
From my point of view and regarding the price :
1) it's an error to not add the DTS support and getting a feedback from the company telling us to do transcoding is a joke
2) regarding the politics problems between Sonos and Spotify is a second killer element. I've prefered to switch to another provider where I can use my spotify application and send music to the sound system
3) I'm not a troll, just an unhappy user and I wanted to give my feedback because the feedback of Sonos left me with a bitter taste after having spent so much money
4) I put an end to this and I wish you good luck with your Sonos system if this one fits your needs.
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