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@Simbadagr8 Please show where Sonos advertised the ability of Sonos speakers to be part of a Google speaker group?

I'm well aware now that they technically avoided specifically saying it integrates with Speaker Groups, but their advertising espoused that it does everything your Google smart stuff does. It does not and they made no effort to make that clear, despite it being the reason many would not have purchased it including myself. 

"All the smarts of Google" Except integrating with Google Speaker Groups.

 

ratty

@Simbadagr8 Please show where Sonos advertised the ability of Sonos speakers to be part of a Google speaker group?

They never did, and never would.

Sync play with cheap third party speakers would be technically challenging to say the least, not to mention commercially senseless.

106rallye
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@Simbadagr8 Please show where Sonos advertised the ability of Sonos speakers to be part of a Google speaker group?

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I am also disappointed in my purchase of a Sonos product that basically advertised it could be part of a speaker group and then cannot. Probably got something to do with the patent infringement war with Google? Are they holding it back from Sonos because Sonos are suing them? The win in court just recently certainly wont help things. Hope it was worth it Sonos. I won’t buy your products again until they can integrate with Google Speaker Groups. 

M

Please please please Sonos. With a cherry on top? I can literally not play music on my patio Sonos while my daughter listens on her cheap-and-nasty Google Home mini in her room, because I can't isolate the Sonos.

M

2 years and still no progress on this topic?

“Progress”?  Exactly when were you promised this feature that you would expect some “progress”?  I’ll answer - Never, because it’s not possible.  Sonos and Google have two completely different synching methodologies.  

Please stop trolling this thread. This is a feature many Sonos owners want. If Sonos can explain why they don't implement this, that would be great.

I imagine the primary reason is maintaining the extremely high audio quality of Sonos products. There are times I am willing to sacrifice that for the functionality of speaker groups. It would also be nice to have some genuine feedback and commitment (either for or against) from Sonos themselves. It might encourage Google to improve their integration, or it might encourage Sonos to improve their integration.

But simply telling people to stop asking is just stupid. We want this feature, so go back to your mushroom growing cellar and let us get on with our genuine attempts to get Sonos to address the problem.

Ken_Griffiths

Setups that you’re mentioning here are mostly complex (at least for someone that just started adding speakers to Google Home setup) so I’ve got a question to make sure that buying a Sonos Beam is a good/bad choice - I’ve got only one Sonos speaker so far and it’s the Ikea one (Symfonisk), added to a Sonos app and lined to google home; so I can tell the assistant to play music from spotify to said speaker. 

Now I’ve wanted to add a gen 2 Sonos Beam to the mix and do I understand correctly that i’ll be able to pair with sonos app and google home by extension, I’ll be able to play music on both but not simultaneously?

If the two Sonos devices are ‘grouped’ in the Sonos App - the Spotify music requested via the Google Assistant will play on both.

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Setups that you’re mentioning here are mostly complex (at least for someone that just started adding speakers to Google Home setup) so I’ve got a question to make sure that buying a Sonos Beam is a good/bad choice - I’ve got only one Sonos speaker so far and it’s the Ikea one (Symfonisk), added to a Sonos app and lined to google home; so I can tell the assistant to play music from spotify to said speaker. 

Now I’ve wanted to add a gen 2 Sonos Beam to the mix and do I understand correctly that i’ll be able to pair with sonos app and google home by extension, I’ll be able to play music on both but not simultaneously?

jgatie

2 years and still no progress on this topic?

“Progress”?  Exactly when were you promised this feature that you would expect some “progress”?  I’ll answer - Never, because it’s not possible.  Sonos and Google have two completely different synching methodologies.  

P

2 years and still no progress on this topic?

J

I am not interested in saying whose ‘fault’ this is, not least because I don’t see it as a fault.  Sonos does not make speakers.  Its product is a fully integrated multiroom audio system.  That is what you voluntarily buy into when you go down the Sonos route.  It is not designed to work with other companies’ systems, and it makes no apologies for that.

Sonos has, relatively recently in its history, added voice control, including that provided by Google Assistant.  That is a world away from integrating two rival multiroom systems, and it was a big and incorrect assumption that that was the case.  

So, Sonos is unashamedly a solution to whole-home music in itself.  I am happy to be committed to the Sonos ecosystem - a willing prisoner, if you like.  But I started from scratch with Sonos.  @Boppy17 - you are starting from a different place from me, as you are already invested in the Google system.  I can understand you wanting your Google system and your Sonos system to sync, but that is just not on offer.  You have to choose one or the other, and given where you are now it would be understandable if you chose Google.

For all I know, Sonos and Google are currently working behind the scenes on making this possible, but that seems highly unlikely to me, especially given the current litigation between the two companies.

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@Boppy17 Assumption is the mother of all f ups. Check before you buy. And maybe this is Google’s fault?

Google’s fault?  @106rallye should take your own advice or brush up on your tech before making ignorant assumptions.  Google integrates with 200 different vendors, including any speaker that supports bluetooth.  Google could have intentionally not allowed third parties in their google home ecosystem.  They decided to allow them.  Sonos is the company that does not support bluetooth or proper google integration.  Period.  End of story.  The same reason they make their own app and the same reason Sonos does not allow you to add other speakers into their ecosystem.  They don’t want to.  

106rallye
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@Boppy17 Assumption is the mother of all f ups. Check before you buy. And maybe this is Google’s fault?

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Thanks John.  The fact that they have Google Assistant built-in and their marketing materials always suggest full integration, one would assume it would work with other Google Assistant speakers like Google’s own.  

If you can point me to where it has been claimed that Sonos has 'full integration' with Google Assistant then I will concede that it was an understandable misinterpretation. I can only find references to controlling Sonos using GA. But I haven't looked very hard.

Edit. I'd also be interested in knowing where it is said that Sonos has GA "built in".

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Thanks John.  The fact that they have Google Assistant built-in and their marketing materials always suggest full integration, one would assume it would work with other Google Assistant speakers like Google’s own.  

J

Sonos is a great multiroom audio system. The original and best. It allows voice control using Google or Alexa. It is simply not designed to work with other systems and really isn't suitable for someone who is already significantly invested in another system. 

One either buys into Sonos completely as one's whole home audio system, or go with something else.

IMO this situation is not going to change for the foreseeable future. I think you would do best to act on that assumption.

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If this is never going to happen and/or someone from Sonos won’t even comment, I seriously regret this purchase.  Not sure if I can still return it.  Sonos should know better, the sound of silence is far worse than actually communicating with the customer and being honest.

There are so many issues with the google integration.  

  1. I don’t want to use the Sonos app to play music, I want to use Youtube Music.  The problem is, YM can see all speakers except Sonos.
  2. Voice commands with the Google Assistant don’t work well with Sonos at all.  Very inconsistent and I’m sure that’s related to the fact that the Sonos is not really a speaker in the Google ecosystem.
  3. I can’t choose the Sonos speaker as a speaker or include it in a speaker group.

I can deal with these things, others in my household can’t.  They just want things to work.  They don’t want to deal with these limitations and workarounds.  It’s crap and just causes frustration.

jgatie

Sonos Move and next Arc owner here.

 

Thinking of returning if this isn’t going to change. At home we have 5 Google Assistant speakers (one of them it’s a Smart Display from Lenovo) and we want to group all devices with the SONOS Move and Arc.

 

Not so happy with them, they aren’t cheap and I bought them because they announced Google Assistant’s compatibility.

 

Any news SONOS, can you tell us something? Any feedback? We’ll be glad to hear from you and know we’re heard.

 

Sonos isn’t going to tell you this, but if it hasn’t happened by now, it’s not going to happen. 

J

Sonos Move and next Arc owner here.

 

Thinking of returning if this isn’t going to change. At home we have 5 Google Assistant speakers (one of them it’s a Smart Display from Lenovo) and we want to group all devices with the SONOS Move and Arc.

 

Not so happy with them, they aren’t cheap and I bought them because they announced Google Assistant’s compatibility.

 

Any news SONOS, can you tell us something? Any feedback? We’ll be glad to hear from you and know we’re heard.

B

I'm a new Beam Gen 2 owner. I'm very satisfied with the sound but am frustrated (like many others here) that I cannot add my Sonos to my Google home speaker group. Even more disappointed that Sonos will not officially give us a definitive roadmap if this is coming. Had I known this I would never have purchased.

 

Also annoying is that while I can see my Sonos in my Google Home, I can't choose my Sonos to target it in YouTube Music. Annoying. I don't want to use the Sonos Music software.

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I came here after finding the Sonos Move and being excited about using it on my deck, paired with my indoor Google Nest speakers for whole home + deck audio.

 

After finding out I can't join a Sonos speaker to my Google speaker group, I'm no longer interested in the product. Sorry Sonos, get with the times!

K

lol this is still an issue? What a joke

O

Recently bought a Sonos Roam to dip my toe in the Sonos eco system. I have numerous Google speakers, chrome casts and a Lenovo clock that I can integrate into groups. 

 

I stupidly assumed that I would be able to integrate my speakers with the Roam. Was actually considering over the next few years swapping out some of my Google speakers and "upgrading" to Sonos.

 

All though I love. My roam I won't be doing this due to the lack of groups with different speakers. I don't know if it's a technical issue or some sort of dispute between Google and Sonos. I do know that it's hurting sales for Sonos as I can't justify replacing my whole system in one go.

 

I hope that there will be some sort of resolution but won't hold my breath.

 

 

J

Another disappointed new arc/sub owner checking in here.  Given that Google integration is advertised it is frustrating that the capabilities are limited.  For a premium product I would expect better.  I'll be reconsidering my purchase for a JBL system

N

exactly! 

just bought SonosMove to group with others and got so frustrated after hours of attempts, then found in this forum that its not possible.

stupid, im selling it now.

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