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trueplay for Android?
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When is trueplay being released for android? ?
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They have stated MULTIPLE TIMES that they CAN NOT do Trueplay on Android phones because Android isn't consistent on its microphone vendors. They have tried and tested units multiple times and Android proves to be too difficult to get consistency.
I assume you must have given away your old iPhone - but I would suggest picking up some old one cheap (just turn on wifi no phone service needed) or have a friend with iPhone come do the calibration for you.
I assume you must have given away your old iPhone - but I would suggest picking up some old one cheap (just turn on wifi no phone service needed) or have a friend with iPhone come do the calibration for you.
What sonos has to do it´s clearly specify that with Android you can not balance a pair of speakers...
or make a discount for android...
shameful
or make a discount for android...
shameful
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huh?
or make a discount for android...
shameful
or make a discount for android...
shameful
Not sure what balancing a pair of speakers has to do with it? Also, Android users already get the same discount iOS users get for non-working lock screen controls and no ability to connect to Sonosnet.
https://en.community.sonos.com/ask-a-question-228987/android-trueplay-app-6732743
Or maybe the manufacturers can standardize. Why should Sonos have to get into the cell phone development business?
1. Test & approve a number of Android devices; and/or
And what if one of the approved devices wasn't any of the ones you have?
Don't blame Sonos... Blame the various manufacturers for not adapting a standard.
I am sure Sons doesn't want to be known as only supporting proprietary devices.
Maybe Sonos can make a dedicated Andoid controller or "approve" a few devices from major manufacturers such as Samsung.
Uhhh, does anyone else see the irony here?
And, after all that R&D spend, would you care to speculate how many users would actually fork out $300, $400, $500 for a dedicated controller when all they need do is reach in their pocket and grab their phone? We've been here before, with the CR200, and Sonos no doubt heaved a corporate sigh of relief to be able to discontinue it.
Bluetooth has pretty indifferent audio quality, and BT microphones tend to be aimed at the human vocal range. Can you identify any quality microphones with a decent frequency response covering the entire audible spectrum?
And inaudible spectrum if descriptions of the tuning process are to be believed.
Thing with the controllers is that smartphones were in their infancy when Sonos hit the market, so they were necessary. Now they aren't... I still use my 100 in the kitchen when cooking, but won't miss it if it dies. It is real easy to with it to hit the stop button and adjust the volume with it... more convenient than drying my hands to access the app on my smartphone or iPad. But, I'm fine either way... I love the options.
That would be the CR200 which, back at v5.4, was deemed to be sufficiently compromised in terms of capacity that all functions other than for basic playback control were removed....
Also a $300+ controller is not out of line for a 32 zone whole house audio system which is what Sonos was designed from the ground up to be. It is only folks who treat Sonos as a fancy Bluetooth equivalent or high end boombox who would balk at the notion of paying for a dedicated controller.
So, in that 32 zone house, where would the $300 controller live? Would there be 32 of them, or just 16?
Accept that the world has moved on, and acknowledge the convenience of a powerful handheld computer already in one's pocket which can simply be flipped out to control music wherever one chooses to listen. There's no need to pejoratively categorise such users as merely wanting a BT boombox.
Sonos still supports dedicated controllers and they are number one in wireless music distribution. All of their competitors only support app based control and none of them are doing very well by comparison despite the fact that smartphones are no longer in their infancy.
You're clearly associating Sonos' market position with once having dedicated controllers. Since they haven't sold them for some time, therefore, their sales should have tanked. They've done quite the opposite.
Competitors reliant on phone/tablet apps are frequently criticised for their software quality. That's much more the issue than having an app per se. Oh, and not forgetting the questionable reliability, multiroom performance, acoustic quality and lack of online service support in competitor systems.
Competitors reliant on phone/tablet apps are frequently criticised for their software quality. That's much more the issue than having an app per se. Oh, and not forgetting the questionable reliability, multiroom performance, acoustic quality and lack of online service support in competitor systems.
In that case just buy a handful of iPod Touch 5th/6th gen units, set them into Guided Access mode, and scatter them round the house.
Amazing how people that the more people have the more they want. What's the problem with slipping your phone in your pocket or slapping it on a holster? Especially when its such an integral part of your sound system. Sometimes you have to adapt.
Yeah, why do people have such a problem understanding what the "mobile" in "mobile phone" actually means? It means it doesn't have to be left in one place! Utterly bizarre, my phone is never anywhere other than my pocket.
Just something else to complain about in my opinion.
Someone who would contemplate spending $3300 on dedicated controllers has an interesting kind of problem.
When you purchased, I'm assuming you got a zone or two and a CR100 or 200. Was the smartphone app an option for you at the time?
No it was not yet an available option and I would not have paid much attention to it even if it was. I started with 6 zones and 3 controllers to test things out and then expanded from there. I'm sure I would have gone in a different direction if there was no dedicated controller at that time. I certainly didn't picture a future where Sonos would be so vulnerable to the shortcomings of third party hardware.
Cheap droid devices are less than the price of most of the Sonos-provided controllers.
NeillJ, best post I've seen on here in ages, I wish everyone here was as logical as you!
I think quality is not that important. The microphones that Apple uses in their product are not exactly high quality microphones either. More important is that Apple is only using 12 different microphones across all their products. This allows Sonos to compensate for non-linear behavior. As long as Sonos can identify the microphone, they can make it work. This is also the main reason why Sonos is not supporting Android. You can find thousands of different microphone types in Android devices. It is easy to measure the 12 Apple microphones, it is impossible to keep up with the Android microphones.
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