Party Mode is a problem. We need ability to create multiple groups of rooms!
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We spend a lot of time grouping and ungrouping rooms. The issue is stems from my wife's use of Party Mode. She likes to use Party Mode while she is cooking. I ungroup the outside speakers so as not to offend the neighbors. I ungroup the upstairs when the kids go to bed. I turn everything off and then create a new group to set the morning alarm. In the morning, I create a group in the kitchen and family room to read the paper. There has to be a better way! Why can't we just create groups of rooms and label them something easy to remember like "Cooking", "Kids in bed", "Alarm" or "Morning Coffee"?
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Userlevel 7
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Thanks for the details Mekon! We'll get that passed on for you. No promises of course as we don't share what's coming or going to be added, but we love getting the feedback.
Is this still true? I've been told that you can make different groups by sonos and dealers. My client just bought 4 amps, because I was told him he could make different zone groups.
Userlevel 7
+20
Hi Fedz,
You can already create groups using any combination of Sonos speakers on your system. The feature request here is to be able to save custom groups so you can switch presets on the fly. At this time you have to specify the Sonos units in each group rather than selecting a preset group of rooms.
This is a great idea. When are you guys going make it happen?
as a new user who went from one Play1 to a Play3 and another Play1 in a matter of weeks... i TOO am AMAZED that the ability to have PERMANENT groups of rooms is not a feature! really? and its been how many years? SONOS come on!!!!! there is a perfect solution from THE MEKON right here.
i LOVE that you added PLEX (and the week after i bought my first speaker) as that was the ONLY reason i had held off and had finally just given in and then WHAT a treat to have PLEX added... but the multiple rooms...this cant be that difficult to add!
i LOVE that you added PLEX (and the week after i bought my first speaker) as that was the ONLY reason i had held off and had finally just given in and then WHAT a treat to have PLEX added... but the multiple rooms...this cant be that difficult to add!
If you have suggestions for how you'd like this sort of feature to work please feel free to share.
I started using Sonos 5 years ago and have grown my system to 8 ceiling speakers powered by Connect:Amp, Soundbar, and multiple Play:1's, a Play:3, and a Play:5. Having to re-group all these components all the time is the single most ANNOYING aspect of my system. Please, please, PLEASE!, add this feature!!!
May I suggest "Virtual Room" as the feature name. I can see the Mekon solution work by which the latest Virtual Room being activated (from Stop to Play) "wins" all the configured speakers automatically. Alternatively, I could also see a simple yes/no user prompt such as "Living Room and Dining Room are currently playing music from Virtual Room 'Downstairs', play music from this room instead?" Nothing wrong with letting the user decide to leave the conflicting speakers in the existing virtual room or have them taken over by the new virtual room.
In either case, PLEASE add this feature in one of the next releases, it really cannot be that difficult to implement compared to other challenges that have been solved.
Userlevel 7
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in the meantime, give the Sonosequencr app a go (IOS only)
Wow, I'm greatly disappointed that this wasn't a basic feature right out of the gate. I just got my second Play1 and planned on getting a third to group them up in interesting ways, but I am rethinking this. This reeks of lack of competition that this hasn't been implemented.
Userlevel 7
+26
Hey ChewyWaffles (I love your username!)
Just to clarify, you can have as many groups of Sonos players are you'd like (your only limit is no more than 32 players in a household). The title of this thread is misleading as the subject is really about having quick access groups that are easier to make.
Currently, if you have 3 rooms, you can have 2 doing one thing and 1 doing another. Just as if you have 6 players, you could have three groups of 2, two groups of 3, two groups of 2 and two playing separately for what would look in the controller like 4 "groups".
Groups are temporary and can be changed around as much as you'd like, they'll show up in the controller as multiple room names with a box around them showing they're together. This is slightly different from how you'd "bond" players together, where they show up as one room name and reboots don't clear the settings.
I purchased 3 Play 5's a few days ago and this was the first thing I tried to do after setting them up! I tried to create a group and label it.
Wow. Came here looking for an answer for this as well as simply tired of grouping and grouping all the time to get what I need with 5 play 1s. The way forward is outlined in this thread over 3 years ago. Seems logical to have. Obviously this isn't a priority for Sonos but this sure would make the experience much easier. Let's get this done. Geez.
+1
I really, really want the ability to have multiple groups. I can see the potential issues but it just needs any group with a player in use to be blocked from other users.
I really, really want the ability to have multiple groups. I can see the potential issues but it just needs any group with a player in use to be blocked from other users.
+1 🆒
Userlevel 7
+17
If you're on iOS then the SonoSequencr app can be used for managing permanent groups
So disappointed that three years on this remains unresolved. Just need the functionality to set 'Master Zones' to either over ride or in addition to rooms.
Hi,
I'm going to add my voice to this. I initially had a Play 5 for the living room and I just got two Play 3 setup in stereo in my kitchen.
First thing I tried to do was having:
Group 1: All speakers
Group 2: Only the Play 5 in the living room
Group 3: Only the pair of Play 3 in the kitchen
Then it would have been super easy to just switch from one group to another whenever the need arise. But no, I have to do all with just one temporary group to which I have to add/remove speakers each and every time...
Please Sonos, you do amazing products, you have for sure amazing software engineers too when you look at the Spotify integration for example. Doing this feature, that in my opinion should have been integrated from day one for a true amazing experience, that have been requested here more than 3 years ago, is basic.
I was planning to get a PlayBase for the basement on home entertainment setup. Seeing how, with only two systems, management is a pain; I'll wait till I get this feature.
Cheers
PS: I also get a lot of disconnection when playing music that is on my iPad or iPhone. But I'll open a ticket for that 😉
I'm going to add my voice to this. I initially had a Play 5 for the living room and I just got two Play 3 setup in stereo in my kitchen.
First thing I tried to do was having:
Group 1: All speakers
Group 2: Only the Play 5 in the living room
Group 3: Only the pair of Play 3 in the kitchen
Then it would have been super easy to just switch from one group to another whenever the need arise. But no, I have to do all with just one temporary group to which I have to add/remove speakers each and every time...
Please Sonos, you do amazing products, you have for sure amazing software engineers too when you look at the Spotify integration for example. Doing this feature, that in my opinion should have been integrated from day one for a true amazing experience, that have been requested here more than 3 years ago, is basic.
I was planning to get a PlayBase for the basement on home entertainment setup. Seeing how, with only two systems, management is a pain; I'll wait till I get this feature.
Cheers
PS: I also get a lot of disconnection when playing music that is on my iPad or iPhone. But I'll open a ticket for that 😉
FYI, group 1 - all - this already exists.
I don't see how this is difficult to use and I have more rooms than you.
If I had selected all to start with and I want to "concentrate" the music in two out of the rooms. I simply tap "group" and untick the rooms I want to remove. Works right away.
If I am playing music in the kitchen only and want to "move" that music to the bathroom (without disturbing other rooms in the house, which might be playing different music right now), I just tap "group" and untick the kitchen and tick the bathroom, then tap "done" the music from the kitchen is "moved" flawlessly to the bathroom.
I don't see how such scenarios could be solved better just by creating pre-set groups.
I personally can see how a pre-set "cinema" group could make sense, but that's already solved via bonding surrounds with playbar/base and setting the surrounds to ambient vs full.
I don't see how this is difficult to use and I have more rooms than you.
If I had selected all to start with and I want to "concentrate" the music in two out of the rooms. I simply tap "group" and untick the rooms I want to remove. Works right away.
If I am playing music in the kitchen only and want to "move" that music to the bathroom (without disturbing other rooms in the house, which might be playing different music right now), I just tap "group" and untick the kitchen and tick the bathroom, then tap "done" the music from the kitchen is "moved" flawlessly to the bathroom.
I don't see how such scenarios could be solved better just by creating pre-set groups.
I personally can see how a pre-set "cinema" group could make sense, but that's already solved via bonding surrounds with playbar/base and setting the surrounds to ambient vs full.
Personally, I'd want the ability to setup common routines, not so much preset groups. Even with preset groups, I'm going to have to take several actions to get it all done, and grouping is really the easiest step. I want to be able to setup a routine that will play source 1 on zones A & B at specific volumes, while turning off all other zones, for example. I actually can do this now when using a smart hub, while controlling lights at the same time, and even schedule at a certain time or triggered off an event. It would be nice if Sonos can do this on it's own, but as smart homes get more and more common, all Sonos needs to do is play nice with smart hubs as far as I'm concerned.
Sonos you should be ashamed! Terrible that you can't implement something so basic.
Userlevel 7
+22
There is the app called Sonosequencer that creates routines to do what you want. You would just have to open Sonosequencr and click button to perform grouping and volume setting routine you would like.
Particularly with the addition of Alexa it is very cumbersome to ask her to play music with 7 or 8 separate commands to play music say “on the first floor”. If we could permanently group a bank of speakers as “first floor “.
+1 Additionally, I would like the grouping to remember the volume level for each room as well. Not all rooms are created equal in a group.
Userlevel 3
+4
I love the idea!
So.... Six years later, still no response from Sonos in this? Apart from the fact that as many have stated before this should be pretty basic functionality, and I have not seen a real reason for not implementing this (there are several different solutions to the "one player is in more than one group" issue) the complete lack of response on the issue is quit baffling.
Can anyone comment on the availability of this feature on competetor's products like HEOS?
So really what is the problem here Sonos? I have 7 speakers in different rooms . All I want is the ability to have different groupings . We just added bedroom speaker and noww I’m in the doghouse because twice I missed ungrouping bedroom from the speaker group.. y wife was sleeping in because she was working late shift..this is a 6 year old request. Can some one explain in layman terms why this is not available . As many have said this seems like a no brainer. Don’t get me wrong love the system hence 7 speakers but come on man fess up what is the problem?
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