Feature Request: Export and Import Sonos Playlists
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Like many users, we use Sonos in two different houses. We have two NAS's of music that I'm planning on keeping synchronized with RSYNC. What doesn't sync or cant get exported are Sonos Playlists. It would be great to be able to ad-hoc export them and then to import them as well. Using the UPnP interface, I've noted a Java program that can export playlists, but importing them is a bit troublesome. It would be great to have this feature.
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Am shocked that this feature isn't available - I don't want to spend a week copy pasting data so I can listen to it at the gym!
I just upgraded from Spotify to Deezer Elite which is great but my Sonos Playlists seem to be linked to Spotify and so don't work any more.
I see from this thread that Sonos have known about difficulties manipulating Sonos Playlists for a long time and it seems that Sonos has done nothing.
I see from this thread that Sonos have known about difficulties manipulating Sonos Playlists for a long time and it seems that Sonos has done nothing.
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I find it rather baffling that some type of system backup still hasn't been implemented.
As Sonos seems to continuously ignore this basic request, I got intrigued by Mike Petonic's (the orignal poster) idea of using the UPnP-Interface to help ourselves.
@Mike: Do you mind making your Java-Program available?
Arnulv
@Mike: Do you mind making your Java-Program available?
Arnulv
What possible reason could there be for the average person to need a 30,000 song queue? Assuming each track is 3 minutes long that is something over 60 days of continuous music. Even if there was some obscure situation where this makes sense it certainly is not practical for normal listening.
Every problem I have with sonos is related to storage and size, it can't even support saving a 30000 song queue Let alone handle my 200,000+ song library. I have 5 different models now so converting to something that can handle a larger library would be rather expensive. I hope they do listen to these problems. (and they are problems)
Great Idea Sonos Cloud, as long as it has enough capacity and is fast enough !!
Or Sonos makes a deal with Google drive and/or iCloud
Or Sonos makes a deal with Google drive and/or iCloud
I have an even better idea: what about automatic online sync of playlists with Sonos' servers? This would solve the problem with two separate Sonos systems. Add automatic backup of the playlists.
This is a ridiculous flaw. I'm mostly happy with Sonos, but things like this keep me looking for the next big thing. If Sonos will not provide simple and demanded functionality someone will. Probably pretty soon.
Come on Sonos this really is not hard to implement. I have done a quick network trace and can see a few simple SOAP calls are all that is required. The standard PC controller already has the code to do this so why not a simple option to export the list? I would estimate that a developer with access to your APIs and could do a basic solution in a couple of days. A more sophisticated solution which saves the list in a user friendly format and can resolve relocation of the music library should be possible with a little more effort.
We seriously need online backup of our Sonos Playlists.
I'm adding my voice to support requesting this playlist ex-/import and backup feature as well. I lost some nice playlists, because I had to reset my sonos-players (either being asked to or because an update) without any notifications. Sonos, it's about time that you listen to this request and start to respect the time and work users have spent to customise and personalise the system...
http://blog.travelmarx.com/2011/05/wpf-application-to-save-and-import.html
available at:
https://github.com/travelmarx/travelmarx-blog/tree/master/SonosWpfApplicationV5
which works well and will export and import playlists for any zone within a Sonos system in text and/or M3U formats.
I should add that I have no connection to 'TraverlMarx' but have been using this code without issue since it became apparent that the recent software revamp(s) from Sonos would not be addressing the issue (Win7/8.1).
Well done. To me this shows how Sonos is letting its customers down, as playlist management is concerned.
Agreed this should be implemented, if only through the PC/MAC client. Until it is however there is an excellent application, WPF:
http://blog.travelmarx.com/2011/05/wpf-application-to-save-and-import.html
available at:
https://github.com/travelmarx/travelmarx-blog/tree/master/SonosWpfApplicationV5
which works well and will export and import playlists for any zone within a Sonos system in text and/or M3U formats.
I should add that I have no connection to 'TraverlMarx' but have been using this code without issue since it became apparent that the recent software revamp(s) from Sonos would not be addressing the issue (Win7/8.1).
http://blog.travelmarx.com/2011/05/wpf-application-to-save-and-import.html
available at:
https://github.com/travelmarx/travelmarx-blog/tree/master/SonosWpfApplicationV5
which works well and will export and import playlists for any zone within a Sonos system in text and/or M3U formats.
I should add that I have no connection to 'TraverlMarx' but have been using this code without issue since it became apparent that the recent software revamp(s) from Sonos would not be addressing the issue (Win7/8.1).
Back up is the single most important reason. At the moment I maintain online back ups, so for example if I add a track from Spotify to my Dining playlist then I first add it to a Dining Playlist in Spotify and do the same with tracks from Google Music and Soundcloud, that way if anything happens I should be able to rebuild them quickly but doing this every time is a bit of a pain.
This Christmas I'm going to take a Play 5 to my Mums and it would be great to be able to take our Sonos playlists with us. I know we can still access individual service playlists but after using Sonos for a while you soon start to collect tracks from lots of different sources and being able to have them in one easy playlist to transport would be great.
Adding my voice as well. Very strange that SONOS would not act in a timely manner on this. Seems like a very easy request to implement.
I just want to chime in here amongst all of the negative comments to say I love my Sonos and even without the playlist export feature it is one of the most used and enjoyed appliances in my home. One of my sonos components did crash a year ago. I thought I had lost the many playlists that had been created over the years. I was ecstatic to find the play lists are stored on each component and Sonos support helped me retrieve all of them. That was a great feature! So while the export would be great, I have no problem waiting for it. I am a developer myself and I understand how difficult it is to keep up with all the features of the compatition and at the same time attend to all the many requests of individual customers. I tip my hat to Sonos and the great work of the Sonos team!
really it looks sonos don't care what us, customers, are asking
as said above, its the beginning of the end
at least a real answer should be given (not this "we are listening..." this is just fake answer after more than 2 years of messages sent on the topic)
as said above, its the beginning of the end
at least a real answer should be given (not this "we are listening..." this is just fake answer after more than 2 years of messages sent on the topic)
I fully agree. It's time Sonos explains why they're not offering this basic option. And if they plan to, when they will. All I'm asking is a 'yes' or 'no' and a timeframe.
Hi from France,
Can not say better than User187243:[/url]
" Unbelievable how Sonos can irritate their biggest fans! ... I stopped using sonos playlists all together and use Spotify to manage my playlists ... My biggest irritation is the arrogance of not even explaining why exporting/importing and sorting playlists are not being offered"
why Sonos does not answer us ?
Am a big fan, have spent a lot of money for my Sonos system,
and they don't even answer to this important topic
???
ardware changes. It is unbecoming and ridiculous for you to continue to make people beg via this list. It's a serious shortcoming and needs to be resolved ASAP.
@Ryan S from Sonos: Thanks for your response that SONOS is "listening". By now, I feel it's time that SONOS started acting, while still listening. Don't give up the listening, but PLEASE do sth about what you hear! Thanks.
so now how do i opt out of this thread..
Hi Arthur, hello Chris,
I am going to follow Chris' idea: let's sit this out! – Until the export/import function is forwarded to users.
@Ryan S from Sonos: Thanks for your response that SONOS is "listening". By now, I feel it's time that SONOS started acting, while still listening. Don't give up the listening, but PLEASE do sth about what you hear! Thanks.
Just adding my voice to the request to be able to export playlists for both backup and use on other Sonos systems.
Back up is the single most important reason. At the moment I maintain online back ups, so for example if I add a track from Spotify to my Dining playlist then I first add it to a Dining Playlist in Spotify and do the same with tracks from Google Music and Soundcloud, that way if anything happens I should be able to rebuild them quickly but doing this every time is a bit of a pain.
This Christmas I'm going to take a Play 5 to my Mums and it would be great to be able to take our Sonos playlists with us. I know we can still access individual service playlists but after using Sonos for a while you soon start to collect tracks from lots of different sources and being able to have them in one easy playlist to transport would be great.
Back up is the single most important reason. At the moment I maintain online back ups, so for example if I add a track from Spotify to my Dining playlist then I first add it to a Dining Playlist in Spotify and do the same with tracks from Google Music and Soundcloud, that way if anything happens I should be able to rebuild them quickly but doing this every time is a bit of a pain.
This Christmas I'm going to take a Play 5 to my Mums and it would be great to be able to take our Sonos playlists with us. I know we can still access individual service playlists but after using Sonos for a while you soon start to collect tracks from lots of different sources and being able to have them in one easy playlist to transport would be great.
so now how do i opt out of this thread..
You can 'unfollow' at the top of this thread Arthur - I was intending doing the same but I've now changed my mind - I want to see how many years we can spin this out for!
You're right - there is a lot of competition coming up on the rails...
I bought a Gramofon - £40. Plugs Spotify Premium straight into my existing hifi, which I was intending selling to buy a Sonos Connect Amp.
As I've now set up all my playlists on Spotify it was a no-brainer, and it's saved me a virtual £360 which will buy me another Play 5 to make a nice pair for a large kitchen.
Love the Sonos kit - hated, really hated losing two years worth of mixed playlists.
it is time i opted out of this thread.... tired of talking to brick walls..."Remember sonos... we made you."
so now how do i opt out of this thread..
so now how do i opt out of this thread..
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