Feature Request: Export and Import Sonos Playlists
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Like many users, we use Sonos in two different houses. We have two NAS's of music that I'm planning on keeping synchronized with RSYNC. What doesn't sync or cant get exported are Sonos Playlists. It would be great to be able to ad-hoc export them and then to import them as well. Using the UPnP interface, I've noted a Java program that can export playlists, but importing them is a bit troublesome. It would be great to have this feature.
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That Sonos statement sounds like a junior politician in training. Says absolutely nothing. I cannot believe that they still get away with this lack of export/import/backup functionality. Smell the coffee Sonos - the competition is coming.
any update on this? is it possible to export playlists yet? 😞
@Ryan S.
Thanks for having this idea passed on to the development team and thanks for informing us about just that. I hope this idea/wish will make it into reality.
Sonos may be forced to implement this option later this year under incoming European data protection regulations - the new regs include the right for consumers to transfer their data between services.
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We have a policy not to disclose timelines or roadmaps for development, but we have these Idea's set up so that we can get more feedback from our customers on what they'd like to see for the future. We're being careful not to assign statuses to Ideas that don't necessarily have a status set internally.
In other words, we don't want any Ideas that sit at Under Consideration for 2 years without a change, when we can't say much more about what we're planning for it.
This is a good idea, and we've passed it to the development team as a suggestion, but we don't have any update to share on its status. As soon as there's news we'll let everyone know, but there isn't currently anything to share.
2 years and no status assigned. Kind of makes the whole concept of status pretty pointless.
It's a shame. 6 months ago I asked politely to be given an explanation why Sonos is not offering this basic option. And if they plan to, when they will. All I asked for is a 'yes' or 'no' and a timeframe. I've heard nothing since. As if they couldn't care less.
Now I too have lost 3 years of playlist compilations after inadvertently resetting the system, when trying to reconnect to my network. There also seems to be no way of, which I can see, of saving the queue to a Napster playlist. Does anyone know how that can be done?
Surprised there has been no response from Sonos.....
Seams like this could be handled many different ways...
I'd be happy enough if you could export the playlist to a text file and re-import it.
Come on Sonos - listen to us!
Seams like this could be handled many different ways...
I'd be happy enough if you could export the playlist to a text file and re-import it.
Come on Sonos - listen to us!
1) install mediamonkey (your Sonos should show up as a media server)
2) access "saved queue" under any of the sonos devices
3) select your sonos playlist
4) create a new playlist within mediamonkey (right click)
5) go to tools/scripts/export all playlists
6) go here: http://soundiiz.com/#/converter
you can't easily import your playlist back into a sonos playlist, but really since sonos is too **stoopid** to implement basic functionality, I would suggest just playing your songs in the sonos app from within one of the other services
all my music is stored on google play, how can I get it to play a sonos playlist?
thanks,
1) install mediamonkey (your Sonos should show up as a media server)
2) access "saved queue" under any of the sonos devices
3) select your sonos playlist
4) create a new playlist within mediamonkey (right click)
5) go to tools/scripts/export all playlists
6) go here: http://soundiiz.com/#/converter
you can't easily import your playlist back into a sonos playlist, but really since sonos is too **stoopid** to implement basic functionality, I would suggest just playing your songs in the sonos app from within one of the other services
I am mystified why this doesn't exist yet. I can't even cut & paste the track list from within the Sonos app... why?!?! I'm reduced to taking screenshots from within the app if I want a record of my Sonos playlist, dumbest thing ever.
1) install mediamonkey (your Sonos should show up as a media server)
2) access "saved queue" under any of the sonos devices
3) select your sonos playlist
4) create a new playlist within mediamonkey (right click)
5) go to tools/scripts/export all playlists
6) go here: http://soundiiz.com/#/converter
you can't easily import your playlist back into a sonos playlist, but really since sonos is too **stoopid** to implement basic functionality, I would suggest just playing your songs in the sonos app from within one of the other services
Thanks for this. It does at least provide a way of backing up the titles and route to recreating anything lost in a disaster situation. I'd never heard of Soundiiz either and that looks very useful.
Sonos, please can we have this feature looked at? This is another thread that is well over two years old with maybe 2 or 3 comments from Sonos staff.
@Ryan
I too am surprised at Sonos's attitude.
I have 9 Sonos speakers, and have recommended Sonos very many times.
Your words "only works on certain versions of the software" are interesting, why not rewrite to be compatible with Version 5.4 onwards?
This really is a deal breaker for many people, and once a potential customer has bought alternate kit they are probably lost to Sonos for ever.
NJSS
Sonos, please can we have this feature looked at? This is another thread that is well over two years old with maybe 2 or 3 comments from Sonos staff.
@Ryan, I don't buy all this talk of technical challenges, that simply is not the case. I can see froma simple network trace that your Sonos Desktop application is using a SOAP API and DIDL-Lite schema to communicate with the Sonos devices. If I browse my playlists and add/edit them I can see details of the tracks and locations being sent in the messages.
With a lot of effort I could no doubt build my own export/import solution but that would require me to learn about DIDL the Sonos SOAP API (which you do not publish) and replicate a lot of functionality that already exists in your desktop controller.
For your development team this should be a relatively trivial task. They have access to the existing code, should be familiar with how it functions and have the correct technology skills. If they really are struggling with such a simple task then I would be seriously worried.
Basic function for export. Use existing API to pull list of tracks, at a minimum this would include just the URI but ideally should also include the artist, album and track name. This can then be saved to a local backup file. The import will recreate the playlist based on the URIs. If the source location is no longer valid then the user should have an option to select a new location to search for the track.
Please don't make me write this myself! This is something you should provide and not expect your loyal customers to have to solve themselves.
There is a viable (and easy) way to export Sonos paylist.
1) install mediamonkey (your Sonos should show up as a media server)
2) access "saved queue" under any of the sonos devices
3) select your sonos playlist
4) create a new playlist within mediamonkey (right click)
5) go to tools/scripts/export all playlists
6) go here: http://soundiiz.com/#/converter
you can't easily import your playlist back into a sonos playlist, but really since sonos is too **stoopid** to implement basic functionality, I would suggest just playing your songs in the sonos app from within one of the other services
1) install mediamonkey (your Sonos should show up as a media server)
2) access "saved queue" under any of the sonos devices
3) select your sonos playlist
4) create a new playlist within mediamonkey (right click)
5) go to tools/scripts/export all playlists
6) go here: http://soundiiz.com/#/converter
you can't easily import your playlist back into a sonos playlist, but really since sonos is too **stoopid** to implement basic functionality, I would suggest just playing your songs in the sonos app from within one of the other services
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Sonos, please can we have this feature looked at? This is another thread that is well over two years old with maybe 2 or 3 comments from Sonos staff.
@ryan. you are right. but the fact that the tool exists means that it isn't all that "tricky" to create, and the only question is why Sonos doesn't release it (even as a "use at your own risk" tool) after YEARS of users begging for something like this. Its just so uncharacteristic of SONOS, which is in every other way the best and most responsive company I've ever dealt with.
Sonos, please can we have this feature looked at? This is another thread that is well over two years old with maybe 2 or 3 comments from Sonos staff.
Hi Ryan,
Thanks for the reply. And yes the Deezer playlist definitely helps me out although it doesn't help others who have playlists from multiple subscriptions or local music.
It also begs the question, if Deezer can create a cloud solution to backup stuff .....why can't Sonos??
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Sonos, please can we have this feature looked at? This is another thread that is well over two years old with maybe 2 or 3 comments from Sonos staff.
There are some ways this could be done, but currently we don't have any news right now. The development team is aware of the request and we'll let you all know as soon as there's something to share.
@Daniel, if you're referring to the tool I think you are, it was designed to handle some very specific cases and only works on certain versions of the software. It was never written for wide scale release or use.
Sonos, please can we have this feature looked at? This is another thread that is well over two years old with maybe 2 or 3 comments from Sonos staff.
Alternatively you could open up an API - I heard rumors about this happening. Or just add it to the services exposed on port 1400.
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Sonos, please can we have this feature looked at? This is another thread that is well over two years old with maybe 2 or 3 comments from Sonos staff.
Once when your tech team was helping me with a problem, they sent me a tool that backed up my playlists and another that restored them. So why is it tricky? Your tech team apparently already has the very thing that everyone here is asking for.
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today i lost my all playlist which i have been collecting so long.
Sorry to hear you lost your playlists, I know just how frustrating that can be. How did you lose them?
Playlists will usually only get lost if the players are factory reset, or get added to a new system, thereby overwriting their data to match the new system.
We strongly recommend against factory resetting players in most situations; as a troubleshooting step, it doesn't do too much. If you have trouble we're here to help.
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Sonos, please can we have this feature looked at? This is another thread that is well over two years old with maybe 2 or 3 comments from Sonos staff.
Hey Stuart,
We've made sure to pass the desire for this over to the development team, we do that with just about every request posted here. It's a good suggestion, but it's tricky based on the way things are done currently. Considering that playlists (along with all other settings or favorites) are stored on the players only, having them backup can be difficult. Not that we aren't up for the challenge, but it'll require some work.
There's also been the suggestion here that we simply release another application which can copy the list from Sonos players, an external application. We try to keep everything simple and that sort of release starts a slippery slope into needing more and more software just to run Sonos. Simplicity makes it easy for everyone to use, and great for anyone to just pick up a controller and have music playing. That's always what we strive for.
If you find yourself using only one music service when making playlists, most will support making playlists within the Sonos software. Deezer has an "Add to Deezer Playlist" option for tracks. The Deezer playlist would be available on Sonos, and any other device. It'll also be backed up on the Deezer servers.
I've been working on my playlists recently which are mostly from my Deezer subscription. I am concerned now that I have no way of backing them up!!
Sonos, please can we have this feature looked at? This is another thread that is well over two years old with maybe 2 or 3 comments from Sonos staff.
Sonos, please can we have this feature looked at? This is another thread that is well over two years old with maybe 2 or 3 comments from Sonos staff.
today i lost my all playlist which i have been collecting so long. i'm really sorry you let me down.
This thread is 2 years old and we're still unable to export a playlist? Sonos -- are you listening?? We really need this basic feature implemented asap! I've discovered so many songs on Deezer and other music services, and it would be a real shame to lose everything.
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