Will Sonos work with google home?
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I am thinking about purchasing the new Google home voice recognition product, I understand that Sonos will work with Amazons echo in the near future. Does Sonos have any information regarding google home integration?
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I think they are fully focused on Alexa. But as you say the alexa work may help the possibility of Google. And Sonos has a history of working well with Google.
I would say alexa public betas first of the year with Google a long way off if ever. If they do decide to do Google I would think 3rd q next year would be earliest.
I would say alexa public betas first of the year with Google a long way off if ever. If they do decide to do Google I would think 3rd q next year would be earliest.
If Sonos are not quick and give us some proper feedback of their intentions and timescales in this area then they're going to lose out on market here as Google and Amazon steal the home audio sector.
Announcement? Intentions? Timescales? Amazon? Ask and you shall receive:
http://press-us.sonos.com/134980-sonos-with-partners-and-industry-leaders-ushers-in-new-era-of-connected-home-listening
Yes, i'd seen that ... how long is soon though?
That was posted 2 months ago and alexa and google home are both available and already allow you to voice control music. Some specifics are required before people start drifting off to them or as first time users wondering why they should go sonos at all, leaving less in sonos's coffers for future development.
I know it's early days for both, but no confirmation on it being worked on for google home and no specific dates for Alexa is not very heartening. I imagine if they're creating an SDK / API then if it's done for amazon, then it's easy enough to implement for google; but what are their incentive as their product does it by using their subscription models - lnking to sonos and music libraries means less income to them.
I think we just need our confidence levels risen in sonos.
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I don't want to discount Apple. My home is all Apple MacBooks, iPads, iPods, and iPhones. Oh yeah, and one Apple TV. However, Googles voice recognition on their app is so many light years ahead of Siri, which literally gets every single thing I ask it wrong, where Google gets the same spoken words exactly right almost every time makes the voice assistant device closer to really functional in the near term.
Alexa. 8 months gestation with Prime members, then release and 15 months later release to Europe. So by then a "mature" proven sales product.
Google home. ... not available.
That's the simple reason why Alexa is with Sonos and GH is not at present.
The advent of voice control from competing sources, do not discount Apple in this war, may fuel fragmentation of the next level of control i.e. Tell Home to do something and how does it do it, or it may see the consolidation of next level control equipment so that you only need one hub, like only needing one router, to process the commands.
Whilst the cuddly and sparkly front end attracts much attention what is happening, or may happen, to the actual engine that executes your home (small h) commands. It is currently as fragmented as a fragmented thing and none offer certainty of operation with home automation. Yet.
Google home. ... not available.
That's the simple reason why Alexa is with Sonos and GH is not at present.
The advent of voice control from competing sources, do not discount Apple in this war, may fuel fragmentation of the next level of control i.e. Tell Home to do something and how does it do it, or it may see the consolidation of next level control equipment so that you only need one hub, like only needing one router, to process the commands.
Whilst the cuddly and sparkly front end attracts much attention what is happening, or may happen, to the actual engine that executes your home (small h) commands. It is currently as fragmented as a fragmented thing and none offer certainty of operation with home automation. Yet.
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I wish I could edit my typos but n my phone.
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I mean the original post said they needed to get on board with Google or Amazon blazing he trail. Then find ininfomed that they are in fact deeply involved with Amazon ... then that's not good enough.
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I mean the announcement doesn't talk about Google home because there are as no such thing as Google home when they had the announcement.
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Google home hasn't even been released yet and we just recently heard details on it. Expecting Sonos to be far enough along for any announcement on Google home is ridiculous.
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Right, sorry, the thoughts were directed at the link that you provided not you directly. My bad.
I imagine if and when Sonos decides to integrate with other voice control systems, they will announce it. Right now all you can be sure of is Alexa integration.
PS - As to "me" having to do anything about "my" products, I don't work for Sonos. Sonos employees are marked as such.
PS - As to "me" having to do anything about "my" products, I don't work for Sonos. Sonos employees are marked as such.
If I were to guess, there would be 2 potential issues there:
1) They only have X number of folks to work on integration, and they're all dedicated to Amazon (maybe Amazon paid them to do them first)
2) There's a possibility that Amazon paid for exclusivity for a period of time? I'm just guessing here, but I think it's entirely possible.
Some combination of these two might be why they haven't announced your desired outcome. But I think that if you can wait for some undefined period of time, you'll get your wish.
There seems to be a lot of competition in this space, between Google, Amazon, and Apple (and likely others, as well). I'm sure that not unlike their music sources, Sonos would benefit from being associated with as many of them as possible. So it boils down to how quickly and easily each can be integrated into the software/feature set on both sides.
I happen to be a user of both Apple and Amazon, but would welcome the Google Home feature set as well, so that I had choice, and so that Sonos would continue to thrive and make my substantial investment in their hardware worthwhile. I recognize that these things don't happen overnight. I've been in negotiations of this type before, and frankly, until the ink is dry on both side's signature on a contract, it's all just vaporware.
1) They only have X number of folks to work on integration, and they're all dedicated to Amazon (maybe Amazon paid them to do them first)
2) There's a possibility that Amazon paid for exclusivity for a period of time? I'm just guessing here, but I think it's entirely possible.
Some combination of these two might be why they haven't announced your desired outcome. But I think that if you can wait for some undefined period of time, you'll get your wish.
There seems to be a lot of competition in this space, between Google, Amazon, and Apple (and likely others, as well). I'm sure that not unlike their music sources, Sonos would benefit from being associated with as many of them as possible. So it boils down to how quickly and easily each can be integrated into the software/feature set on both sides.
I happen to be a user of both Apple and Amazon, but would welcome the Google Home feature set as well, so that I had choice, and so that Sonos would continue to thrive and make my substantial investment in their hardware worthwhile. I recognize that these things don't happen overnight. I've been in negotiations of this type before, and frankly, until the ink is dry on both side's signature on a contract, it's all just vaporware.
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Thats excellent but you need to get on the Google Home bandwagon quick because I and others never had any interest in an Amazon Echo but I've already preordered 2 google Home devices. My sonos is connected to numerous zones indoors and out with much higher quality speakers than Google Home will have but if I can untether from my device and use voice I will default to the Google devices quickly I would guess. Their search logic is just off the charts better than anything else and if you are using voice you just want it to work. I am probably one of the original 1% of Sonos purchasers and I have sold MANY people on your products. Please don't render all of that useless by not getting on board with Google Home immediately.
If Sonos are not quick and give us some proper feedback of their intentions and timescales in this area then they're going to lose out on market here as Google and Amazon steal the home audio sector.
Announcement? Intentions? Timescales? Amazon? Ask and you shall receive:
http://press-us.sonos.com/134980-sonos-with-partners-and-industry-leaders-ushers-in-new-era-of-connected-home-listening
I think Sonos need to get a move on and make some announcements. As someone else said above; I'm very much Sonos at the moment, but I am starting to wonder why and am certainly not investing in extra kit in the immediate future. I could just make the leap now and go google home throughout my home and sell my Sonos kit on ebay to pay for it and pretty much get what I want i.e. the ability to play music in every room via voice control - and of course have extra benefits.
If Sonos are not quick and give us some proper feedback of their intentions and timescales in this area then they're going to lose out on market here as Google and Amazon steal the home audio sector.
If Sonos are not quick and give us some proper feedback of their intentions and timescales in this area then they're going to lose out on market here as Google and Amazon steal the home audio sector.
Why would you say Alexa cannot do things like that? It has access to both your schedule and traffic conditions. As to the "smartness" of Alexa, Alexa's "smarts" are in the cloud, not the device, so its "smartness" is not limited to the device, only to the ability of the cloud.
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I imagine, for example, Google Home being able to alert me via my Sonos speakres that my 8:00 appointment is approaching, the traffic conditions -- and my ability to say "reschedule," or "push it for 30 minutes," etc. Alexa doesn't have the smartness to handle something like that. And, as a consumer, Sonos has to be proactive at making it possible for me to decide which products I want to use with my speakres otherwise my mind will always be looking for the competitor that provides or will provide similar experiences. I am only loyal to a company if I see an effort to satisfy customers, not just boastful about being market dominant. I have left several companies that provided me with their services because they never create the conditions for me to become loyal to them -- so it became for me, which one will do X Y and Z.
I am with Sonos now, but I will not be purchasing additional speakrs for at least the next two three years to see what disruption will occur in the industry. And, I am grateful for Ebay in case I will need to make that switch.
I am with Sonos now, but I will not be purchasing additional speakrs for at least the next two three years to see what disruption will occur in the industry. And, I am grateful for Ebay in case I will need to make that switch.
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I had Alexa and I promptly returned it. I got frustrated that it was not smart enough for many routine request that were so finely implemented with "google Now" on my phone. So, I decided that I would wait for Google Home.
You could always sell Alexa in a years time ;O)
Pre-Order customers get theirs Nov 4 - I know, because that's when I'm getting mine.
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The problem with Smartthings and sonos integration (and thus the ability to work seamlessly with Home) is that the integration is subpar at best. If the integration had been polished -- in such a way that I could access my Sonos preset in the Smarthing hub, then yes, A Smartthings user would not be needing direct integration between Sonos and Home.
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My guess is they will want to work with home but that integration with home will have to come later.... we don't know a lot yet about how developers are going to be able to work with home.
I would assume a lot of what they learn with echo integration will work the same with home integration so future home integration won't be a long way behind echo. I would say if we expect echo by first quarter next year maybe home by 3rd quarter. I guess depends on size of their team if they have ability to work on both simultaneously. Then what about Apple HomeKit. I would think if your doing the voice thing you would want to work with alexa, Google, and Siri.
I debated canceling my order for addition dots because home seems to be more fluid in its ability to recognize speech. But decided alexa was already doing all I need from it, will be first with Sonos support, and the dots are cheaper then the others (as with Sonos I don't need the speaker part).
With my smartthings I can already play and pause my Sonos speakers so I'm sure home will do that out the gate with my Smartthings hub in middle. with home I would have been able control my play:5 in kitchen that has chrimecast dongle I would assume
I would assume a lot of what they learn with echo integration will work the same with home integration so future home integration won't be a long way behind echo. I would say if we expect echo by first quarter next year maybe home by 3rd quarter. I guess depends on size of their team if they have ability to work on both simultaneously. Then what about Apple HomeKit. I would think if your doing the voice thing you would want to work with alexa, Google, and Siri.
I debated canceling my order for addition dots because home seems to be more fluid in its ability to recognize speech. But decided alexa was already doing all I need from it, will be first with Sonos support, and the dots are cheaper then the others (as with Sonos I don't need the speaker part).
With my smartthings I can already play and pause my Sonos speakers so I'm sure home will do that out the gate with my Smartthings hub in middle. with home I would have been able control my play:5 in kitchen that has chrimecast dongle I would assume
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Chris, what are you guesses on google home & sonos? boy I want it, but will it happen?
I guess the other way of looking at it, is that it would bring the two together and extend sonos into google homes, large apple hater market as well.....
I guess the other way of looking at it, is that it would bring the two together and extend sonos into google homes, large apple hater market as well.....
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Sonos seems to be the speaker of choice right now when it comes to whole home integration. Devices like Smartthings have had Sonos integration before even Samsung speakers.
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Not sure this will ever happen.
Sonos would just become another casting speaker like sony, LG, etc, loose their ecosystem status, loose sales of connect & connect amp.
Google may well release other speakers themselves later on as Home develops.
So far Alexa is only partnering with sonos and denon Heos, that I know of. This will drive sales for all partners, sonos users will buy Alexa, and Alexa users might want better speakers.
Sonos would just become another casting speaker like sony, LG, etc, loose their ecosystem status, loose sales of connect & connect amp.
Google may well release other speakers themselves later on as Home develops.
So far Alexa is only partnering with sonos and denon Heos, that I know of. This will drive sales for all partners, sonos users will buy Alexa, and Alexa users might want better speakers.
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Please please, sonos, support integration with Google Home. This will help me remove my finger from the pause button from buying additional Sonos products. I cannot stand Alexa. I want choices.
Bye. Good luck with your informed decision buying with you new choices, which don't actually exist yet.
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