A linux controller is needed.
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A linux controller for the Sonos system is really needed. A basic controller shouldn't be that hard to create, so even if the userbase is smaller then for Windows there shouldn't be a cost-reason to not do this. The strength of Sonos is ease-of use, and a user that -for instance- prefers Ubuntu will be left to use his/her phone.
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Maybe if it were revealed that Sonos has chosen to ignore customers it would have an impact. What would be the best way to employ social media? Sounds like a revolution to me. I am ready. Perhaps this sort of prodding is in order. Wake up Sonos and respond to your existing customers.
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I did pick up a comment from a sonos employee (kinda off the record, on another forum, ofcourse not an official reply).
Basically (paraphrasing and translating): it's a real small percentage and even they mostly use iOs or Android. They try to focus on "complete user experience" improvement.
Kinda felt like a nice big middle finger for linux users.
Basically (paraphrasing and translating): it's a real small percentage and even they mostly use iOs or Android. They try to focus on "complete user experience" improvement.
Kinda felt like a nice big middle finger for linux users.
Have you seen this video, a guy is creating a nice HTML5 sonos controller: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7Dke5LsTF0
I have twittered about it on @Baseneelco so please retweet to get Sonos moving, because I think that it is Sonos who should develop a webcontroller like that.
I have twittered about it on @Baseneelco so please retweet to get Sonos moving, because I think that it is Sonos who should develop a webcontroller like that.
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I have twittered about it on @Baseneelco so please retweet to get Sonos moving, because I think that it is Sonos who should develop a webcontroller like that.
Maybe, but that's a bit besides the point here, isn't it? While a webcontroller might be a functional workaround for Linux users, the fact remains that as long as the focus for controllers is on native apps, it is rediculous that there is none for Linux.
So I consider it somewhat a bad thing to focus on this, at least in this topic which is especially trying to get attention for a Linux Native client. Sonos will go and point to these initiatives as 'valid alternatives', and keep focussing their effort (new features etc) on other platforms.
I have twittered about it on @Baseneelco so please retweet to get Sonos moving, because I think that it is Sonos who should develop a webcontroller like that.
Don't agree with that. If Sonos would just create a good HTML5 webapp, we're not forced to use windows or ios to use an official controller any more.
With a web controller, responding like native apps, the need for a (Linux, windows, ios) app is gone and Sonos could focus on bringing the best functionality to all platforms.
It is also showing that the lack of Sonos response on either topics is a shame, a shame that they don't respond and that users are now starting their own controllers. Which in itself is great, but should not be necessary.
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I have twittered about it on @Baseneelco so please retweet to get Sonos moving, because I think that it is Sonos who should develop a webcontroller like that.
...but it seems you do agree by calling it "either topics" that they are different topics, and that's all I wanted to focus on: it is a different topic, so while a good thing in/for itself, it is a different thing. I was mainly focussing on the fact you point out: user-created, and I agree with you sentiment!
The problem I have is that if it is not a Sonos app, but an 'aftermarket' app, it will never be as good as a Sonos app, at least in some ways (for instance new features, as Sonos obviously will have an advantage in an earlier start).
So while it might be a solution for some, I think it is not the best solution. that's an opinion of course. But apart from that opinion, it will give Sonos something to point towards in topics like this: "no, we don't need to do something for you, you have a workaround!"
Sonos needs to release a stable, usable, up-to-date API for controlling OR implement something themselves. As long as they don't do that, it's all just workaround to me.
I have twittered about it on @Baseneelco so please retweet to get Sonos moving, because I think that it is Sonos who should develop a webcontroller like that.
The problem I have is that if it is not a Sonos app, but an 'aftermarket' app, it will never be as good as a Sonos app, at least in some ways (for instance new features, as Sonos obviously will have an advantage in an earlier start).agree with you. That's why I say it is a shame it comes this far. A real Sonos app is a better solution, the rest is workaround, just as you mentioned.
+1 for a Linux or webbased controller!
Now Squeezebox has been sunsetted by Logitech I'm looking for an alternative to move to, so immediately thought of Sonos. It's with disbelief I find that popular every day Linux flavours like Ubuntu are not supported! Amazing. Sonos must be loosing a lot of customers.
It's really a pity that there's no web-based client that will solve any cross-platform related problem. What leaves me really unsatisfied tough is the lack of interest and feedback by Sonos team (at least I can't found any feedback in this thread nor in the web one).
BTW, I just tried Janos has been update some hours ago. It works on my ubuntu 12.04. Well, it "works" means that I can open it, see my queue and control playing but I can't search on my deezer library and worst part: it crashes every now and then 😞
BTW, I just tried Janos has been update some hours ago. It works on my ubuntu 12.04. Well, it "works" means that I can open it, see my queue and control playing but I can't search on my deezer library and worst part: it crashes every now and then 😞
I was about to purchase some Sonos speakers, but the lack of linux support is keeping me from investing in such a purchase. The ball is in your court, Sonos.
+1
I'd be happy with command lines (debian/mint preferred) for JUST play/pause/next ...
without a zillion depends like the above link would need (or the horror of needing wine to work)
without a zillion depends like the above link would need (or the horror of needing wine to work)
It seems Sonos has noticed the growing number of disaffected linux-users: https://ask.sonos.com/sonos/topics/linux_webcontroller?utm_content=reply_link&utm_medium=email&utm_source=reply_notification#reply_13441057
Good to hear, thakns. But why don't they reply in this thread then?
Well im allso hoping for this to happens...
I guess too many people wont be happy by the reply... Might aswell keep it quiet.
A native Linux controller please.
Another one for a controller which can be used from Linux. Where is the difficulty for a Linux native Controller?
+1 to a native client or web interface - PLEASE. I have been using Sonos since controller 1. I finally upgraded to controller 2 and have been waiting all this time for Linux or web. I also use Vortexbox (which is Linux, btw).
+1 for a Linux controller.
Seems like it's a case of 'great product, crap support'.
Prove me wrong!
Seems like it's a case of 'great product, crap support'.
Prove me wrong!
Well, this is an interesting thread. I'm looking into linux option because the iOS controller for ipad and iPhones so flaky it's driving me nuts. There are many many issues on the forums about iOS devices. I can control my system with android or the sonos controller, but I want a controller in each room. I wish I had never bought the sonos. The quality of the sound is excellent, and when it works it works great, however I think the support channels are poor.
I am one of the persons waiting long years for a linux client. While a native linux client would be great, I would be quite happy with a working Windows version with wine. This should be far easier to do for a skilled programmer.
Furthermore it would only be fair to give the linux community something back. Sonos wouldn't be sonos if it were not able to build on the foundations of a working and free operating system.
Furthermore it would only be fair to give the linux community something back. Sonos wouldn't be sonos if it were not able to build on the foundations of a working and free operating system.
The only 'sort of working' alternative for linux users is currently Janos. Great piece of work for which the programmer deserves a lot of brownie points, but in no way as feature complete as a native client would have to be. As it stands at the moment, I can only advise Linux users to look for manufacturers other than sonos.
Nonsense -- who wants to want 3 minutes for virtual box to boot just so that you can play music. Usability fail.
Please add Linux support.
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