Spotify Connect, serious competition

  • 3 September 2013
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Heeeeee's Baaaaaaaack!!!! :rolleyes:
Feel free to email John MacFarlane and give him the benefit of your forensic business analysis.

If he e-mails the way he posts, MacFarlane's inbox will be filled by noon. :rolleyes:
^ LOl..

Ya'll just sit on ya hands here and do nothing to the Sonos experience: other than what appears to be a rather pathetic attempt by Sonos to block Spotify here..(do correct me if my impression is wrong)

...and watch the music streaming world pass you by...

I don't care.

I don't have skin in the game..

Many of you clearly do..

Is that Bias?

I think it is....
I don't have skin in the game..
Because you've sold your Sonos kit? Excellent. Bye.
We should have a special part of the Forum where every disgruntled / disillusioned Sonos owner can sell their equipment cheaply to the rest of us (happy/contented Sonos customers) ... while they still have the chance and the market crashes :D

wappinghigh has been making these over-the-top posts raising a this, that, or another death knell prediction for Sonos every 6 months or so for as long as I've been here. Airplay, Apple should buy Sonos, Apple DRM, 24/96 support, Spotify Connect, Sonos should make it's own modem/router/ripper/NAS/server/etc., and on and on and on.

And yet, he still hasn't sold his system, so looking for bargains from him is quite futile. :rolleyes:
If the problem is with Spotify (and not Sonos)..why is it that Spotify connect is available within Bluesound but not Sonos?
^ answer my question...
If the problem is with Spotify (and not Sonos)..why is it that Spotify connect is available within Bluesound but not Sonos?

If the problem is with Sonos and not Spotify, why is Google Play Music perfectly able to stream directly from the GPM Android app to any and all Sonos speakers? And it works fantastically! All GPM features available in perfect sync over any and all Sonos speakers. Certainly if Sonos wants to do it with Google, they will want to do it with Spotify? So what's holding it up?

Oh, and by the way, Google actually makes a profit, unlike Spotify, which loses millions a year.
Certainly if Sonos wants to do it with Google, they will want to do it with Spotify? So what's holding it up?



I don't know..

That's why I asked the question

You haven't answered it...
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^ answer my question...

Maybe if you gave people more than two and half minutes to formulate a reply they might do, we're not all on speed here.

Incidentally, we'all here aren't going to do anything about anything because we're not Sonos employees, we're just users, like you, so it's a waste of time imploring us to do anything, we have no say in the matter. But you know that already.
The only logical answer I can come up with is that they (Sonos) fear Spotify (their Connect feature)..

Otherwise what possible reason would there be for Sonos to not offer it in full?
I don't know..

That's why I asked the question

You haven't answered it...


Yes I have. Since Sonos is willing to work with Google, it proves they are perfectly willing to change their architecture to enable streaming directly from apps. But if they can't do the same with Spotify, it must be some conditions on Spotify's side that is holding it up, or it is Sonos that is making monetary demands. MacFarlane has recently stated that Sonos gets no revenue from streaming services. Which means it isn't Sonos demanding any kickbacks. So it comes down to a few things:

Spotify charging too much for licensing.
Spotify demanding a hardware solution in Connect products (which is true).
Spotify protecting their other partners from competition from the leading wireless streamer on the planet.

All of which are Spotify's fault, not Sonos'.
^ So Sonos can't afford to do a deal..but NAD can??
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^ So Sonos can't afford to do a deal..but NAD can??

Maybe that explains why Bluesound devices are so much more expensive than the equivalent Sonos device?
Y MacFarlane has recently stated that Sonos gets no revenue from streaming services.

This is now irrelevant.

Sonos wouldn't sell a single Zone player from this day on without these streaming services..
Maybe if you gave people more than two and half minutes to formulate a reply they might do, we're not all on speed here.

Incidentally, we'all here aren't going to do anything about anything because we're not Sonos employees, we're just users, like you, so it's a waste of time imploring us to do anything, we have no say in the matter. But you know that already.


wappinghigh often stubbornly refuses to believe that we users are not Sonos employees. He has referred to Sonos as "your system" to me and other posters on more than one occasion.
Maybe that explains why Bluesound devices are so much more expensive than the equivalent Sonos device?

I can't see why this is..

I don't recall the price of Bluesound gear going up after they announced the Spotify connect feature..
wappinghigh often stubbornly refuses to believe that we users are not Sonos employees. He has referred to Sonos as "your system" to me and other posters on more than one occasion.

Are you guys going to be logical here.. or are you going to continue to attack the man rather than approach the issue rationally?
This is now irrelevant.

Sonos wouldn't sell a single Zone player from this day on without these streaming services..


So what? Sonos has a partnership with more services than any other streamer there is. They certainly aren't lacking for music partners.
Are you guys going to be logical here.. or are you going to continue to attack the man rather than approach the issue rationally?

It is hard to approach the issue rationally with someone who believes we are not actually users and continually tells us that we are responsible for Sonos' decisions. There is a degree of irrationality here, but I assure you it isn't coming from us.
^ So Sonos can't afford to do a deal..but NAD can??

You forgot #3:

Spotify protecting their other partners from competition from the leading wireless streamer on the planet.
^ I was simply pointing out the irrelevance of Mr McFarlanes comment that Sonos didn't receive any revenue from streaming services..

You raised it jg

Not me..
^ I was simply pointing out the irrelevance of Mr McFarlanes comment that Sonos didn't receive any revenue from streaming services..

You raised it jg

Not me..


Dude, you have been here 7 years. Learn to use the quote function!!

And why is this irrelevant? You claim it was Sonos fault Spotify Connect is not supported. I was pointing out that in a monetary sense, it is not Sonos holding out for big bucks in order to support it, because Sonos receives no income from services. So that eliminates one very large way you could place the fault on Sonos.
You forgot #3:

Spotify protecting their other partners from competition from the leading wireless streamer on the planet.


Ok.. I can see maybe they might be doing this..that maybe they are witholding doing a deal with Sonos because they want to offer a heads up on the competitors.. but this now means they (Spotify) have some serious traction here..does it not?
Ok.. I can see maybe they might be doing this..that maybe they are witholding doing a deal with Sonos because they want to offer a heads up on the competitors.. but this now means they (Spotify) have some serious traction here..does it not?

Spotify will have serious traction the day they turn a profit. Until then, they are just another music service living on borrowed time. Back room deals are just more evidence of this fact.