New Product showing on FCC - S15

  • 28 April 2017
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I'm curious if we'll see an announcement today given that the confidentiality of the photos is due to expire Sunday.
Just looked at my Sonos Dock. 5V @ 2A, or 10 watts. However, that had to charge an iDevice. 100mA should be enough to power a wifi transceiver and a microphone array, perhaps with Chromecast capabilities.
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Those labels are usually samples, and are only representative of the location of the FCC label and/or the wording required by the FCC to meet their requirements. Everything else about them can likely be taken with a grain of salt. Until Sunday (or more likely, Monday) comes around, we won't know what it is.
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When the Play 5 (gen 2) was added to the FCC database its name was S100, Sonos got wise at this point and started hiding the names of devices.


No idea what the S stands for. Source? Streamer? Spot? (Play on Dot).


How about the Sonos Speak?:8
It is probably the long awaited Play 7. It will be a 7 foot floor standing electrostatic speaker to fill in the high end of the product line. Electrostatics are a good match for Sonos because they struggle at the low end which makes them the perfect complement to the Sonos Sub. Unfortunately no line-in or headphone jacks but will have a port to plug in a separate microphone array for use in voice control as an alternative to using an Echo Dot.

😃. Unfortunately, 5W of power input ain't quite gonna do it. My QUAD ESL-63s have a recommended amplifier power of 50-100W. My Connect:Amp drives them nicely. ESLs are also notoriously difficult to integrate with subwoofers. Only a couple of attempts were made to integrate one with the QUADs, never very successfully. Psychoacoustics genius, NHT founder and MIT graduate Ken Kantor shared some ideas on the subject a couple years back, but it would be a limited product, at best.
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I'm probably reading way too much into this but I just saw Sonos like a tweet where the user said they're "looking forward to the new Amazon Alexa skill for Sonos to have some music in the air with Spotify." Included was a photo of an Echo next to a Connect.
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Just looked at the label on my Connect. 100ma from AC line, 5W. This is a Connect replacement, hopefully with the additional features I mentioned above. You could be right, especially considering the photo they "liked" on Twitter earlier.
So this would be the 3rd version of the "Connect", first the original ZP80 (32MB, 1x1 SonosNet v1), then the ZP90 (32MB? but 3x3 SonosNet v2) which was renamed "CONNECT", and now this S15. (before the great renaming the original nomenclature for the Play 5 gen1 was S5, btw, ).
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=Y&application_id=TA3DBlNSKB4QOtv79G5%2B5w%3D%3D&fcc_id=SBVRM013

Includes both internal and external photos in pdfs, and a user manual. If the manual is relevant to this particular thing, it's just a new version of the CONNECT.
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So will this be cheaper than the existing connect to allow for Amazon dot connection?
It will be priced at $99. It will have a combined 3.5mm optical/analog output, like the CCA. It will also have a far-field microphone. Maybe an analog input, but not necessarily, given Sonos emphasis on streaming.

That would kill a lot of birds with one stone if that will also do Alexa. The photos/manuals filed are then a legally possible red herring?
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It will be priced at $99. It will have a combined 3.5mm optical/analog output, like the CCA. It will also have a far-field microphone. Maybe an analog input, but not necessarily, given Sonos emphasis on streaming.

That would kill a lot of birds with one stone if that will also do Alexa. The photos/manuals filed are then a legally possible red herring?

That could make sense. They put up existing Connect info and pictures as an early design disguise, then they "change their mind" on design and features and ultimately release something entirely different but less encompassing than the Connect to keep features limited to add-on Alexa support.
Those photos make no sense for a 2017 product. The internal photos show a level of componentry from 10+ years ago. A new product would have far smaller components, and certainly not a plugin wifi card. The production costs would be far too high to be competitive in a world of $35 Chromecasts and $50 Dots. Those are photos of the existing Connect, which has surely become non competitive at its current price. I don't get it...
Nor does that "style" complement the latest devices, the PLAYBASE and PLAY:5. I'd have assumed that something new would look more iike those, or even the BOOST.
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I'm hoping for a low-cost AirPlay hub but I'm expecting to be disappointed.
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Those photos make no sense for a 2017 product. The internal photos show a level of componentry from 10+ years ago. A new product would have far smaller components, and certainly not a plugin wifi card. The production costs would be far too high to be competitive in a world of $35 Chromecasts and $50 Dots. Those are photos of the existing Connect, which has surely become non competitive at its current price. I don't get it...

Same thoughts here :?
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Compare with the pics on ifixit and there are some differences but I'm no expert so don't know if it's just updated components or really a different product. Also some of the dates on the parts are almost a year old. Very strange.

https://www.ifixit.com/Device/Sonos_Connect
And. Here. We. Go.

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/8/28/16214118/sonos-smart-speaker-microphone-fcc-filing-multiple-voice-assistants
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That appears to be from a separate FCC filing. I'm still curious what the product is that this thread refers to. It may just be a big nothing.
Yeah I didn't feel the need for opening a seperate thread with the new filing not likely to hit markets before March.

An updated Connect with improved wifi chipset doesn't sound too shabby though. It's the retail price which has been the real bummer so far (and probably will still be in the future).
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Yeah that is a bummer. And is what's stopping me from getting one. The previous reference of a $99 product intrigued me but I doubt it'll happen.
Yeah that is a bummer. And is what's stopping me from getting one. The previous reference of a $99 product intrigued me but I doubt it'll happen.

Yep, no way is this going to be $99, it will be stuck at $349, which must severely restrict sales. I guess they determined that a $99 Connect would hurt sales of their speaker line. I'm an engineer, not a marketing or finance guy; these decisions seem nutty from an engineer's perspective, but obviously aren't made by engineering.
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I'm guessing it's a stand alone microphone array interface device to integrate Alexa to control legacy Sonos equipment?
I'm guessing it's a stand alone microphone array interface device to integrate Alexa to control legacy Sonos equipment?

Nope. Sadly, it's just a minor update of the Connect.