AirPlay 2 when?
So iOS 11.4 is now released to the public. When can we expect it on the Sonos line?
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But...but...you have a pair of play 1's and you have a subscription to Apple Music ? You've reached the summit there I think. What else would you still want then ? I also have a pair of play 1's and a pair of play 5's and Apple Music. I control them with my Ipad or my smartphone. The music quality is outstanding on the play 5's but also on the play 1's and that should be enough to be loyal to the Sonos brand. I read all the topics here about Airplay, Alexa and yes, that's nice technology, but not that important I think. After all, Sonos is a company that makes quality speakers. They have a few priorities :
- high quality sound
- support streaming services like Apple Music
- easy multi room music support
- reliability
- easy of use
They excel in all of those categories. It's that combination that makes them somewhat unique in the market. Bluetooth technology is nice but it doesn't fit into those priorities.
I mean, it's all about filling your house with music and quality sound. I don't see why everybody is making such a big deal of those nice to haves.
I may have this wrong so please correct me if I do.
My understanding of Airplay 2 is that you will not need the Sonos App to stream the music/content. You will only need it to group none Airplay 2 compatible speakers together.
Once the update is released then you should see and be able to group all compatible speakers together from the control centre on an iPhone for example.
So when I'm watching a film on my ATV 4K my stereo paired Play:5's (Gen 2) should show up as a source to output to. But if I then wanted the sound to also output to the stereo paired Play:1's in the kitchen and bedroom I would have to group the speakers in the Sonos App.
If you had to go through the Sonos app you wouldn't be able to use ATV, YouTube etc as they aren't supported in the Sonos App.
My understanding of Airplay 2 is that you will not need the Sonos App to stream the music/content. You will only need it to group none Airplay 2 compatible speakers together.
Once the update is released then you should see and be able to group all compatible speakers together from the control centre on an iPhone for example.
So when I'm watching a film on my ATV 4K my stereo paired Play:5's (Gen 2) should show up as a source to output to. But if I then wanted the sound to also output to the stereo paired Play:1's in the kitchen and bedroom I would have to group the speakers in the Sonos App.
If you had to go through the Sonos app you wouldn't be able to use ATV, YouTube etc as they aren't supported in the Sonos App.
That's a fair question
But what makes you think the Play:5 is going to be capable of outputting Dolby Atmos?
Play 5 can become the crown jewel through Apple TV 4k and Airplay 2. They just announced the Dolby Atmos for Apple TV 4k.
In my living room I have an Apple TV and a stereo pair of gen2 Play 5s. All I really want out of Airplay 2 is to be able to stream the Apple TV audio to the Play 5s without the need for using an aux. cable.
Looks like it:
Ears-on review: Stereo HomePods will blow you away
https://youtu.be/Uftil4Dywpw
Personally, I'm not even counting on my Playbase getting it till it's finally available. Having said that, I got my brother a One instead of a 1 because he would make use of it more than I would.
Yes, a very good point jgatie. I perhaps should set my sights a little lower.
It's not possible to get an Amazon Echo to play in sync with Sonos, and we'll not see Google Home and Sonos interacting synchronously as well.
Going on the basis of 'backward compatibility', I think all old AirPlay v1 devices will continue to play just standalone.
However, my thoughts are that all the new AirPlay-2 devices will be capable of being grouped together. It’s just a 'standard' that all manufacturers will have to adhere to in order to use the AirPlay 2 logo on their packaging.
It’s quite plausible that one device in the group will be selected as a 'master' and the others will become its 'slave'... hence there is a need for a greater hardware requirement. That’s perhaps why only the newer Sonos devices will be truly AirPlay-2 compatible, because they have the hardware capability to be a master audio-controlling device, looking after the required audio buffering and network syncing mechanisms
I don’t know if any of this is true by the way, but that’s my guess and that all AirPlay-2 devices, upto a certain limit/number, will be capable of playing together in perfect sync.
Only time will tell, but that image posted above by jordn613, is showing two AirPlay-2 devices selected at the same time in the list, so why would a Sonos AirPlay Speaker be treated any differently to those?
However, my thoughts are that all the new AirPlay-2 devices will be capable of being grouped together. It’s just a 'standard' that all manufacturers will have to adhere to in order to use the AirPlay 2 logo on their packaging.
It’s quite plausible that one device in the group will be selected as a 'master' and the others will become its 'slave'... hence there is a need for a greater hardware requirement. That’s perhaps why only the newer Sonos devices will be truly AirPlay-2 compatible, because they have the hardware capability to be a master audio-controlling device, looking after the required audio buffering and network syncing mechanisms
I don’t know if any of this is true by the way, but that’s my guess and that all AirPlay-2 devices, upto a certain limit/number, will be capable of playing together in perfect sync.
Only time will tell, but that image posted above by jordn613, is showing two AirPlay-2 devices selected at the same time in the list, so why would a Sonos AirPlay Speaker be treated any differently to those?
Ugh. What the heck is the big deal with it getting Airplay support if it can't play along with other airplay devices? Isn't that like 75% (or more) of the reasons you'd even want to be able to have Airplay on Sonos systems?
I'm going to be very surprised, if Sonos will play in sync with HomePod and Apple TV or iPhone, iPad and Mac.
Luke may the force and patience be with you
I did. These are Apple's devices, without exception, no third-party units incorporated.
Right, cause in that persons screenshot they happen to not own other devices. When Sonos supports Airplay 2, it should show up as an option to check, as it is an Airplay 2 device.
I did. These are Apple's devices, without exception, no third-party units incorporated.
I would imagine Sonos airplay2 compatible speakers will show up in Apple app and work as any airplay speaker would.
You mean simultaneoulsly? I don't think that is going to happen; two different systems of two different manufacturers are incompatible per se.
Look at the image I included. Why wouldn't Sonos speakers show up the same way? Isn't the point of Airplay to allow streaming to multiple devices that support Airplay?
You mean simultaneously? I don't think that is going to happen; two different systems of two different manufacturers are incompatible per se.
I'm not sure how much you have invested, and which speakers you bought, but why not either sell your incompatible speakers and use the money towards the compatible ones, or just buy 1 speaker that has the ability that will make the old ones work also?
Thanks, luckily just 2x Play 1's which I will give to a relative. I do not want a third Sonos speaker, I only need a stereo pair. I will cut my losses and put the money I would have spent on a third Sonos device into a system that will really do what I want. It's my fault, not Sonos's. I just hoped for more than Sonos willdeliver in terms of firmware upgrades for my Play 1's. No big deal.
In theory Sonos speakers will just show up like the other apple stuff does like this, right?: https://i.imgur.com/gpMj0ye.jpg
Worried they'll make it so you can't stream to both Apple TV and Sonos speakers at the same time.
Worried they'll make it so you can't stream to both Apple TV and Sonos speakers at the same time.
I'm not sure how much you have invested, and which speakers you bought, but why not either sell your incompatible speakers and use the money towards the compatible ones, or just buy 1 speaker that has the ability that will make the old ones work also?
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