AirPlay 2 when?
So iOS 11.4 is now released to the public. When can we expect it on the Sonos line?
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Thanks, yes it is quite clear. Sonos is not for me. I expected too much from future firmware upgrades. My fault entirely. I am not spending more on Sonos stuff I do not want. Thanks.
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Fred - Sonos has explicitly said airplay2 support will not work with the play:1.
When airplay support was announced they said only the Sonos One would support. They later found and announced that the play:5gen2 and playbase would also be supported. They obviously tested to see which they could bring it to and those are the all inclusive only 3 that will be able to be targets.
If you want airplay and don’t wish to do #2 then your only Sonos option is to get one of those 3 devices as airplay targets on order for your system to gain support.
When airplay support was announced they said only the Sonos One would support. They later found and announced that the play:5gen2 and playbase would also be supported. They obviously tested to see which they could bring it to and those are the all inclusive only 3 that will be able to be targets.
If you want airplay and don’t wish to do #2 then your only Sonos option is to get one of those 3 devices as airplay targets on order for your system to gain support.
2. You can do airplay 1 right now on any Sonos speaker by running server software on a computer or NAS to enable the support (such as airsonos)
3. Sonos has a press conference coming up in a week where they will most likely be announcing some new hardware (which will also be airplay 2 compatible) and they may also update everyone on current status of Airplay 2 now that Apple has released it.
If none of this is acceptable to your needs then get a different product.
Audiobridge also works well, although it doesn't support paired stereo Sonos speakers. It was actually working on my paired Play:1s but then stopped showing them as an option. I also couldnt stream to both Sonos and an Apple TV together. That's what I'm hoping Airplay 2 support will allow for.
No, numbers 1 and 2 aren't acceptable. But number 3 might be. I "thought" I'd get a firmware upgrade for my Play 1's that would bring the Apple and Google integrations along with Air Play2. it seems I hoped for too much and bought the wrong kit. But yes, I need to see what Sonos say in a weeks time thanks.
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1. Sonos is obviously working on the Airplay2 integration as they have already verified the speakers that will work as Airplay2 targets (Sonos One, Play:5 Gen2, and Playbase). No one has said they are not working on it or testing it right now.
2. You can do airplay 1 right now on any Sonos speaker by running server software on a computer or NAS to enable the support (such as airsonos)
3. Sonos has a press conference coming up in a week where they will most likely be announcing some new hardware (which will also be airplay 2 compatible) and they may also update everyone on current status of Airplay 2 now that Apple has released it.
If none of this is acceptable to your needs then get a different product.
2. You can do airplay 1 right now on any Sonos speaker by running server software on a computer or NAS to enable the support (such as airsonos)
3. Sonos has a press conference coming up in a week where they will most likely be announcing some new hardware (which will also be airplay 2 compatible) and they may also update everyone on current status of Airplay 2 now that Apple has released it.
If none of this is acceptable to your needs then get a different product.
Thanks for the thoughts. I have had a brief look around and I would point you to the Quad website for quality gear with the latest Bluetooth technology built in. Yes, I never intended multi-room and I never bought Sonos with that in mind. Big advantage of the Bluetooth solution is that all the family, Android and Apple users alike can have all the integrations they need and stream the resulting output to the sound system. Yes, the Quad solution is quite expensive, there will be others not so expensive, I'm sure. I'll look around. But I am putting no more money into the Sonos kit. Disappointed, but life moves on. Thanks.
I agree with everything Jgatie Just said. Sadly I don’t think Sonos has done a great job of late of marketing its all round game. Although I am an Apple user and very happy for Airplay 2 support I do think Sonos should have supported Bluetooth years ago. Say what you want about Bluetooth it is a ubiquitous technology.
But FredBloggs I honestly don’t think you will find a replacement for the collection of needs you want.
But FredBloggs I honestly don’t think you will find a replacement for the collection of needs you want.
If you do not use multi-room, then you very much bought the wrong product.
However, Sonos is by no means a dodo. It is the very first 3rd party multi-room streamer to support Alexa. It will be the very first to support Google Assistant, and it will be among the very first with Airplay 2 support. It is the only one with multiple voice control capabilities. It is so far ahead of its competitors, one of them just got sued for patent infringement. It is also by far the best selling multi-room streamer on the market, with the best ratings on Amazon. If that is a "dodo" then the rest of the market is positively prehistoric.
But I admit, horses for courses say it's just not the product for you.
However, Sonos is by no means a dodo. It is the very first 3rd party multi-room streamer to support Alexa. It will be the very first to support Google Assistant, and it will be among the very first with Airplay 2 support. It is the only one with multiple voice control capabilities. It is so far ahead of its competitors, one of them just got sued for patent infringement. It is also by far the best selling multi-room streamer on the market, with the best ratings on Amazon. If that is a "dodo" then the rest of the market is positively prehistoric.
But I admit, horses for courses say it's just not the product for you.
I don't use multi room, I sit down and listen. Natively stereo equipment has no synch issues. It is stereo out of the box. I understand the support here for Sonos, it is a Sonos website after all! But seriously, I think I bought the wrong kit. When I looked at what was available the long term support and feature upgrades by Sonos probably swayed my decision to purchase. It seems now, I bought the Sonos equivalent of a dodo.
Secondly, any device with the latest high quality Bluetooth interface can easily be controlled by Google Home and/or Apple Homekit.
Thank you for your input
Not synched between multiple rooms. Nor can they be paired in stereo.
Thanks for the thoughts, you are right. I won't sell the Play 1's cheap. I will give them to a relative.
Secondly, any device with the latest high quality Bluetooth interface can easily be controlled by Google Home and/or Apple Homekit.
Thank you for your input
Secondly, any device with the latest high quality Bluetooth interface can easily be controlled by Google Home and/or Apple Homekit.
Thank you for your input
So with Airplay 2 I will be able to: Send youtube audio (or any other audio) from either my iPhone 8 or Macbook to my Apple TV 4K (hooked to my home theater) and then also to my Sonos One, which will also then allow my Sonos Play:1s to be playing that audio too, right? This is great because for Sonos owners it means not having to buy their own $300 device to use your own speakers to play Sonos audio. Do I have this right? Synced music between my receiver (via Apple TV) and my Sonos speakers? All from my MacBook or iPhone? Please tell me I’m understanding this correctly.
So . . . nothing? Because there is currently nothing on the market which meets these needs.
Relax with the histrionics. If you read the Sonos release notes for AirPlay2, it looks like you will need to have a recent Sonos speaker that supports AirPlay2 but that having one of those should enable you to use the rest of your Sonos speakers with AirPlay2. So maybe just look into getting a $199 Sonos with the Alexa support. Either way, I’d just wait until everyone in the communities has had a chance to play with AirPlay2 in the wild. Then you’ll know what’s really possible. But if you want to sell your stuff cheap on eBay, knock yourself out. I’m sure one of us will pick them up for cheap.
Something that I can integrate with Google Home, Apple Homekit and the latest high quality Bluetooth technology that Sonos appear to pretend doesn't exist. Something I can stream directly to without being forced to use a basket case OEM app like the Sonos one. If I could continue to use my pair of Play 1's with Air Play 2 I would forgive the other stuff but it seems I made a bad decision buying Sonos. As per the brand, well, I need to bring myself up to date with what is out there.
I always ask this question. What would be your replacement for Sonos???
Thank you. My Sonos gear could well be on eBay by the weekend then. I'm regretting buying into this now. There are so many much more flexible alternatives now, I feel I need to move on. When I bought into Sonos I had no idea I was buying into a technical dead end. Everything I read here suggested the opposite in fact. Very disappointed at this outcome.
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The next week or so could prove make or break for me and Sonos.
There's NO turning out to see if Play :1s will support Airplay 2 - The will NOT
Now if you mean Sonos:1s then that is a different story
Thank you for the perspective. I had thought I would be able to play my Apple Music account directly to my Play 1's rather than through the Sonos app using Air Play 2. If it turns out not to be the case I think I'll may well sell my Sonos gear before I get too deep into it. I also want Google Home integration. I can only wait so long while the competition moves steadily forward compared to the seemingly glacial progress at Sonos.
The next week or so could prove make or break for me and Sonos.
The next week or so could prove make or break for me and Sonos.
That is not what I said though, is it?
Play2 is a mutually pretty big deal for both companies. Especially, I think, Sonos. I have only a couple of Sonos Play 1's as a stereo pair but I already feel Sonos are glacial at this stuff. I seriously think Sonos are in danger of being left behind technically, which would be a shame.
I can show you hundreds of post going back thirteen years that stated "I seriously think Sonos are in danger of being left behind technically" or some other such doom and gloom scenario. Ironically, one of the biggest onslaught of such proclamations was when Apple released Airplay 1. 😃
I just wanted to point out that if you only have a pair of PLAY:1s, you're not going to be able to use AirPlay 2, without purchasing another piece of hardware. From what I've gleaned from Sonos' announcement many weeks ago, you'll need a Sonos One, a PLAY:5 gen 2, or a PLAYBASE in order to be able to receive the AirPlay 2 signal. Then your PLAY:1s could be grouped with whichever speaker is "receiving" the signal, and play what you want.
I think the issue that many of us are responding to is the multiple times that Apple has pulled AirPlay 2 from a release. We infer that it means that they had to do additional work on the process, which might potentially break anything that Sonos might have been working on. We're assuming that Sonos would defer any effort until Apple said "yes, it really is final", so we think Sonos might not be as far along as we'd all hope.
I think the issue that many of us are responding to is the multiple times that Apple has pulled AirPlay 2 from a release. We infer that it means that they had to do additional work on the process, which might potentially break anything that Sonos might have been working on. We're assuming that Sonos would defer any effort until Apple said "yes, it really is final", so we think Sonos might not be as far along as we'd all hope.
I'm having a hard time accepting that Sonos and Apple haven't already got this working and just needs tweaking for release.
Why?
What makes you think if it was all ready to go and all tests completed that Sonos/Apple would just sit on it?
That is not what I said though, is it?
Play2 is a mutually pretty big deal for both companies. Especially, I think, Sonos. I have only a couple of Sonos Play 1's as a stereo pair but I already feel Sonos are glacial at this stuff. I seriously think Sonos are in danger of being left behind technically, which would be a shame.
However, according to The Verge none of the speakers on Apple's list are working today except Apple's.
True. But Airplay 2 has been available for a while in 11.4 beta so if Sonos indeed has a licensing agreement with Apple they've had plenty of time to do testing.
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Sonos will announce this with some Fanfare for sure. It isn't just going to slip in under the radar. Also, they are going to test it until it pops.
And then they are likely to test it some.
Being realistic this is a new version of Airplay for Apple and something totally new for Sonos. It's a long way from being trivial and knowing Sonos they will want to ensure, as far as they can, that it works.
For what it's worth my view (and it's just a guess) is that it will be later rather than sooner.
And then they are likely to test it some.
Being realistic this is a new version of Airplay for Apple and something totally new for Sonos. It's a long way from being trivial and knowing Sonos they will want to ensure, as far as they can, that it works.
For what it's worth my view (and it's just a guess) is that it will be later rather than sooner.
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