Well, Sonos delivered on their promise to bring DTS Surround 5.1 support to the Arc. Below is what I got with the following source and equipment. Maybe DTS:HD will come later. DTS:X is a long shot IMO.
Disc: Alien 40 Anniversary / 4K Ultra HD Video / DTS:HD Audio
Sonos Equipment: Arc with Sub x 2 and Sonos One x 2 / Sonos S2 app v13.4.
Transport: Panasonic DP-UB9000 Ultra 4K Blu-Ray Player > Audio Settings: DTS HD to DTS
Monitor: LG OLED 65 inch C9PUA > Audio settings: HDMI eArc / Pass-Through
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hdfury arcana version 85
1. Added DTS 5.1 as default for the new SONOS update, now it will be automixed always on. The separate setting for DTS option under the audio menu will add full DTS7.1 as well as DTS-HD descriptors (DTS-MA and DTSX and DTSX IMAX)
2. Renamed BEAM mode as Beam 1/ARC to avoid confusion with Beam 2 which should use default settings.
I guess I had to previously go and turn on the dts on my menu, to get dts support, but with this firmware update defaulted to always on.
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Just managed to perform the latest firmware update on the HD fury arcana, I’m finally getting DTS hooray lol
Well, Sonos delivered on their promise to bring DTS Surround 5.1 support to the Arc. Below is what I got with the following source and equipment. Maybe DTS:HD will come later. DTS:X is a long shot IMO.
Disc: Alien 40 Anniversary / 4K Ultra HD Video / DTS:HD Audio
Sonos Equipment: Arc with Sub x 2 and Sonos One x 2 / Sonos S2 app v13.4.
Transport: Panasonic DP-UB9000 Ultra 4K Blu-Ray Player > Audio Settings: DTS HD to DTS
Monitor: LG OLED 65 inch C9PUA > Audio settings: HDMI eArc / Pass-Through
Thanks for sharing. I tried Unforgiven 4K with a DTS 5.1 track, and I can see DTS 5.1 in the Sonos App.
Unfortunately, due to how the Secondary Audio selection works (the setting you note as “DTS HD→ DTS”) on the Panasonic unit, these settings will prevent the playback of Dolby Atmos and Dolby True HD tracks. That’s because secondary audio cannot be mixed in with the uncompressed Dolby or DTS tracks. So, if someone has discs in their collections with one or the other, they would need to toggle the menu to get the better sound. Otherwise, only the compressed Dolby Digital 5.1 is played back that is embedded in the higher quality track. This can be observed in the Sonos App. With Secondary Audio on, the track playback is Dolby Digital 5.1. With that off, the Dolby Atmos logo is shown. I confirmed this with Star Wars Rise of Skywalker 4K which has a 7.1 Dolby Atmos mix.
Since the Arc fully supports Atmos and Dolby True HD, I think this is a big compromise. (It’s also a compromise to playback the compressed DTS vs the DTS HD but probably not audible for most movies in most home set ups.)
Can this be fixed?
Panasonic is unlikely to do this, but if they added a Secondary Audio choice specific to each type of encoding (Dolby and DTS), then the player could be set up for the best of both worlds. Panasonic is aware of various issues with DTS decoding and the Arc and have yet to make any changes in their firmware updates.
Or of course Sonos could add in DTS-MA playback, but as noted, I agree this is unlikely or we would have it already in this release.
(Not sure if this is true for the Xbox folks on this thread, but it is for the Panasonic people.)
If my reading of this situation is incorrect, please let me know!
Laird
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Anyway it’s not an issue that I’m not getting dts, all my dtshd blu ray are being upmixing everything to Dolby atmos…
Ideally you want your Blu-ray player to play DTS-HD Master Audio discs as lossless multichannel PCM not Dolby Atmos. If you have an Arcana, set the “Add PCM 8ch” setting to ON under the Audio menu.
Yeah I can set my Xbox series x 7.1 lpcm and it works..
Anyway it’s not an issue that I’m not getting dts, all my dtshd blu ray are being upmixing everything to Dolby atmos…
Ideally you want your Blu-ray player to play DTS-HD Master Audio discs as lossless multichannel PCM not Dolby Atmos. If you have an Arcana, set the “Add PCM 8ch” setting to ON under the Audio menu.
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Anyway it’s not an issue that I’m not getting dts, all my dtshd blu ray are being upmixing everything to Dolby atmos…
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Ken Ive got the HD FURY arcana so playing the codec wouldnt be an issue you would think
Have you turned on the DTS setting in the Arcana’s Audio menu?
No how willI do that,
Ken Ive got the HD FURY arcana so playing the codec wouldnt be an issue you would think
Have you turned on the DTS setting in the Arcana’s Audio menu?
Ken Ive got the HD FURY arcana so playing the codec wouldnt be an issue you would think
Yes, what Bruce says, it will come down to your XBOX settings then and the disc having the .dts encoded audio track of course… I assume the Arcana passes through the codec, as others here in the community who use that audio extractor have mentioned they have dts working with their Blu-Ray players.
Depends on what codec is being sent, then. As expressed further up the thread, for instance, if DTS-X or DTS-HD codecs are being sent, the Sonos won’t be able to interpret them.
Especially when using an Arcana, you need to be careful about what is being sent by the originating device.
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Ken Ive got the HD FURY arcana so playing the codec wouldnt be an issue you would think
The issue is I try to select bitstream dts audio selection on my XBOX it’s just defaulting to Dolby ATMOS...Doesnt give me the option to change, I also go on device manager BD and click on let my reciever do the work, It comes up on the screen it doesn’t recognise the codec….
Maybe someone here with an XBOX will be able to assist you with its settings, I take it that the disc you’re playing has a .dts soundtrack and if the audio is going via your TV that the TV will pass-through that codec - note some older TV’s may only pass the codec through its Optical port.. so there are those things to consider too.. you can ‘maybe’ check your TV dts pass-through capabilities here at rtings.com
https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/inputs/5-1-surround-audio-passthrough
Hope that assists.
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The issue is I try to select bitstream dts audio selection on my XBOX it’s just defaulting to Dolby ATMOS...Doesnt give me the option to change, I also go on device manager BD and click on let my reciever do the work, It comes up on the screen it doesn’t recognise the codec….
Is it a dts-x disc or just dts as dts-x will not work
Both dts x and dts hd coming up as dolby atmos not complaining though, I dont know whether it has anything to with the HDFURY ARCANA...
That’s going to be because dts-X and dts-HD formats are not supported on Sonos devices. They currently only support dts 5.1 audio.
But doesnt it downgraded to normal DTS?????
Yes, probably, if the disc is encoded in that format and if you were to switch off the Dolby codec - a player when set to ‘Auto’ should start at the highest codec available that it can play and ideally work it’s way down the list of codecs until it eventually gets to PCM stereo.. but in most cases if the ‘Auto’ setting isn’t set, then the user can choose a compatible codec manually from the players list of codecs it can use or transcode.
The Blu-Ray disc I tested had its audio encoded in both Dolby and dts formats - I just selected the player to use dts in my test-case.
Why play lossy .dts 5.1 anyway, if you can have uncompressed Dolby TrueHD (Atmos) audio anyway?
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Is it a dts-x disc or just dts as dts-x will not work
Both dts x and dts hd coming up as dolby atmos not complaining though, I dont know whether it has anything to with the HDFURY ARCANA...
That’s going to be because dts-X and dts-HD formats are not supported on Sonos devices. They currently only support dts 5.1 audio.
But doesnt it downgraded to normal DTS?????, Ive tried a normal dts disc and it still shows up as Dolby atmos on my app...
Is it a dts-x disc or just dts as dts-x will not work
Both dts x and dts hd coming up as dolby atmos not complaining though, I dont know whether it has anything to with the HDFURY ARCANA...
That’s going to be because dts-X and dts-HD formats are not supported on Sonos devices. They currently only support dts 5.1 audio.
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Is it a dts-x disc or just dts as dts-x will not work
Both dts x and dts hd coming up as dolby atmos not complaining though, I dont know whether it has anything to with the HDFURY ARCANA...
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My xbox settings
On lgb8 tv
Plug disc in xbox test disc is the hulk
I’ve got the same setup but no dts, it keeps coming up as Dolby atmos…
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My xbox settings
On lgb8 tv
Plug disc in xbox test disc is the hulk
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My xbox settings
On lgb8 tv
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Is it a dts-x disc or just dts as dts-x will not work
Working here for me too. 👍
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The thing is I’m trying to select dts via the audio selection of my Xbox series x but when I do this it just riverts back to Dolby atmos…when I select Dolby digital it allows me to change it, when I select the let me my receiver passthrough via the BD device option the screen comes up saying cannot handle the codec…
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Look I’m not sure whether I got the update yet, I’m in Australia, but I’ve got the Xbox series x I’m choosing bitstream DTS but my Xbox reverts back to Dolby atmos…a bit of a advice would be nice thanks..
Settings/System/About My System will tell you what app version you’re running.
Settings/System/System Updates/Check For Updates will let you force an update if one is available.
You need v13.4. Once the app is updated the speakers should update automatically when you launch the app.
It shows update 13.4..
It’s a LG OLED 65C9PUA
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