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Put me on the list please. This is surely a common requirement especially given most modern living rooms are open plan and making the sharing of a sub component between speaker groups in that room is pretty fundamental.

Sounds like this feature hasn’t been implemented after 3 years and many users requesting it, correct? 
Add me to the list anyways! 🤞🏼

Perhaps just add the new Sub-Mini to the setup instead🤔?

Sounds like this feature hasn’t been implemented after 3 years and many users requesting it, correct? 
Add me to the list anyways! 🤞🏼

Another pile on or add to the wish list for this feature. Pretty please!

I have a large common area upstairs with 2 Play 5s (stereo mode, w/TruePlay) and a sub--sounds great, really fills up the space; in 2 adjacent common area rooms I have a One in the office and a One in the master.  

Also in the common I have flay screen, new Beam and want the same (co-located) sub to pickup base tones while streaming TV/movies etc.  

Downstairs in the movie area, I have the Arc, 2x One SLs (rears) and a sub. This standalone and fully integrated setup (w/TruePlay) sounds absolutely fantastic in all formats/activities etc.… streaming HD TV, DVD/B-Ray movies and all genres of music...especially w/ HD radio. 

But that will lose you your Trueplay settings every time?

Not everyone has the ability to TruePlay their setup in a room and I don’t actually mind that issue if I’m just shifting a sub for a day or more - it only takes a few minutes to restore the TruePlay settings, but ‘yes’ it would be nice if a TruePlay profile could be saved and quickly restored. It’s not a deal breaker for me and it’s cheaper than perhaps purchasing another Sub, particularly if it’s something that’s only done occasionally and of course it makes no difference to  anyone who is not using/unable to use, TruePlay.

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But that will lose you your Trueplay settings every time?

Not quite, @nik9669a. In that arrangement, I’d have a physical switch to determine the source of sound to the sub. What we’re asking for here is a virtual switch in the Sonos app, to toggle between the sub being paired with the sound bar or the Play 5s.

Forgive me for interjecting here, but Isn’t that what happens in the Sonos App anyway? If I goto my HT room settings and hit ‘Remove Sub’ it invites me to move it to another room. I select the ‘other’ room and it moves the Sub in seconds (or at least as quick as getting up out the chair to flick a switch to move it).

If you had a conventional, wired system where you had a 5.1 home theatre system with sub, and an additional pair of hifi speakers, the same situation would exist. The sub would be wired to one environment or the other - either the home theatre setup or the hifi One. To connect to the other speaker set you’d have to re-wire it.

Not quite, @nik9669a. In that arrangement, I’d have a physical switch to determine the source of sound to the sub. What we’re asking for here is a virtual switch in the Sonos app, to toggle between the sub being paired with the sound bar or the Play 5s.

Plus one on this. Disappointing this isn’t available. I have an outdoor system that is adequate 90% of the time, I’d like to be able to grab the sub and take it outside when the need arises.

Same here…. i have two Beams one fixed in a bedroom, the other one I move it in/out to the backyard. I would like to move the sub from one place to the other in a convenient way.

Plus one on this. Disappointing this isn’t available. I have an outdoor system that is adequate 90% of the time, I’d like to be able to grab the sub and take it outside when the need arises.

@melvimbe: the arguments are valid, except for the following two:

- A soundbar can never reproduce music as neutral as a balanced and neutral stereo pair (throwing effects around is something different ...)

 

 

I don’t think anyone is arguing against that.  What I’m saying is that it stands to reason that Sonos might not want to advertise that their $800 soundbar isn’t good enough for music...and you spend another $500 on a pair of Fives.  It’s about marketing rather than the technical reality.  Those that know and care can get the additional Fives, as you and other’s have done.

 

- It's strange that SONOS offers turntables (of course with analog output, suitable for Play5: 2), but neither Beam nor Arc have an analog input (BTW: SONOS even offers bundles consisting of turntable and Play5:2)

 

I don’t see why that’s strange.  It’s a multiroom audio system where the different devices have different feature sets. The Beam/Arc are also not portable, or have audio outputs.  The Five doesn’t have HDMI-ARC/eARC input and no battery.  Neither can power passive speakers like the Amp. If you want to play your turntable through a Beam or Arc, you can do that just by grouping a Five or Port room with your Beam/Arc room.

 

I'll stick with it: the ability to share a Sub for two functions (stereo or soundbar) in one room (including TruePlay) would be an absolutely desirable function. Furthermore: the implementation of this function should be feasible with acceptable effort

The first part quoted is a truism, but none outside of Sonos development can have a valid opinion as to the second, related to the “acceptable effort” claim.

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While that is perfectly true, that is not an argument. the two things have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

I'll stick with it: the ability to share a Sub for two functions (stereo or soundbar) in one room (including TruePlay) would be an absolutely desirable function. Furthermore: the implementation of this function should be feasible with acceptable effort, because the automatic switching of the source when an analog signal is applied to a Play5:2 works also quite well.

Technically, those aren’t Sonos turntables, they’re made by another company. 

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@melvimbe: the arguments are valid, except for the following two:

- A soundbar can never reproduce music as neutral as a balanced and neutral stereo pair (throwing effects around is something different ...)

- It's strange that SONOS offers turntables (of course with analog output, suitable for Play5: 2), but neither Beam nor Arc have an analog input (BTW: SONOS even offers bundles consisting of turntable and Play5:2)

@LittleRedCorvette  Sonos doesn’t have a configuration of ‘two zones in the same room’ like you’re suggesting.  They have no way of saying you can share the sub as long as you place the sub in a room with two zones that share the same room.

So if Sonos did these, they would have to create this new type of room.  Taking your point a step further, you could allow a setup so the speakers in this room know that the 5s+sub should play music and the Arc+sub+surrounds should play TV audio...with no possibility of playing both at the same time. I would like that option personally.

But…..that would be a clear sign from Sonos that they do not think their Arc is good enough for music playback.  Not something Sonos wants to say, as they want the message to be that the Arc is great from TV and music.   It could end up turning away customers to other soundbars just as much as it gains in speaker sales.  Plus, customers will surely then insist that the two 5s be used for a wider front left/right on TV audio.  The point is that there are some side effects and unintended consequences if Sonos went in this direction that you might not be considering.

I’m not saying Sonos won’t do it or that I wouldn’t use it myself (I would actually), just not too surprised that it has not happened.

 

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Hello,

For me it is also difficult to understand that SONOS is not willing to implement this function. I currently also use a stereo pair Play5:2 together with a sub as a stereo system in the living room and am considering buying an Arc together with a new TV. It cannot be that this constellation should then only be feasible with two Sub.

For example, if a analogue turntable is connected to the analog input of a Play5:2, the system automatically changes the input to analogue when the turntable is activated.

It would be pretty much the same if the television is switched on while connected to a beam or an Arc. This means that the existing sub should then automatically be assigned to the Beam or to the Arc. If music is switched on again (for example with the stereo pair Play5:2), the sub should then be reassigned to the stereo pair. You rarely get the idea of ​​listening to music and watching TV in the same room at the same time.

In this case, it is not about different rooms, but about a room with two zones.

Before I put two sub in my living room, I buy a soundbar from another manufacturer together with a subwoofer for less money than an Arc without a Sub alone.

+1 :) I think this should be a really common requirement/setup: 

Living room:

  • Beam + 2 Ones + sub for TV
  • 2 Ones + Sub for music

Our TV setup including the Beam is nicely hidden in a closet when unused. This means that currently, we have to keep the Beam powered at all times and when we’re listening to music, the audio output of the Beam uselessly suffocates in the closet. Also, the current restrictions imply that we have to use the Beam for the voice assistant feature instead of one of the Ones, meaning that we have to scream our voice commands through the closet doors. 

 

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Can’t agree more!! 

 

I have the HT setup as well as a BEAM and another pair of Play 1 for music. It’s not about the money for another SUB, but actually my living room is not big enough and has no additional space for it.

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Yes please note me too, i have a 5.1 setup but for music i really prefer the Ones over the Arc (Which is a compliment for the ones) and also i would like to use them in the length of the room instead. 

So now its 5.1 but i would prefer Arc + Sub for TV and Ones + Sub for music. 

Would absolutely love this feature, just 2 or 3 trueplay saved combinations with the sub. 

I do understand that this would be a confusing option for the average consumer but please make an option for this for us lovers :) 

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+1 for me

have play 5 pair and want to hook sub to it as well 

 

+1. This issue is currently keeping me from purchasing an Arc.

Another vote for this feature. 

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Yes, please add me to the request list.

I have a new ARC for the TV and 2x 5’s for sound and just purchased a Sub.

 

 

Please add me as wel. Setup is 2x play one's for music and 2x play1's with beam for movies.