Support Spotify Connect to allow users to use the Spotify app as the controller.

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Meanwhile, in the real world, Spotify launched the system with Pioneer as Launch Partner
Just a few days ago a microsite went live where you can see what alternatives to buy to get rid of your non-supported SONOS devices

https://www.spotify.com/connect/
Hi folks, There's not much to say at the moment but we'd like everyone to understand where we're coming regarding the announcement from Spotify. Sonos is a platform for music lovers and we want Sonos customers to enjoy all the music on earth from whatever source they choose. We have an excellent partnership with Spotify which is, and will continue to be, an important part of many of our customers music listening experience on Sonos. Thanks for your continued support.
I use Spotify to create playlists and then Sonos to play them around the house. That is my solution to the relatively poor integration of Spotify into Sonos. Surely you're saving yourself a load of work by getting Spotify to integrate Sonos properly into its platform rather than the other way around?
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Check out this article for some more details: gizmodo.com/spotify-connect-sonos-like-powers-that-bend-to-your-bu-1228510223 It's essential for SONOS to add, else they will be blasted away by competition. I expect it be in the beta of SONOS very soon, and to have them as primary adoptor. Else the brand is dead :)
Sounds like the last comments might be from SONOS employees. I agree with Nicao, there are too many good competitors out there for SONOS not to take substantial heat here. I just bought my first SONOS Speakers, but will NOT be cornered into their ecosystem. If you love your customers, SONOS, act like it.
What are the alternatives to Sonos? I'd love something that DOES work with the Spotify app on iPad.
Fix this.
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Because of the reliable hardware, I also planned to extend my Sonos system (currently a Connect for my HiFi systemen and an S5). But after reading this I really start to doubt. When listening to Sonos I listen for 80% to Spotify, 15% music from my NAS device and only 5% streaming radio. There are two things that annoy me about Sonos and Spotify. First the frequent outages of the Spotify - Sonos connection, totday already 48 hours dead! The companies always point to each other, but never take responsibility for this mess. 2nd, the inability to use the Spotify features using the Sonos App, or otherwise the inability to control Sonos using the Spotify App. For me Sonos is just a streamer, I even use a separate Arcam DAC. The Spotify software is much more user friendly, and really serves as a music explorer in which you can discover new music and that’s what I like about this service and Sonos is just the hardware I use to listen! The Sonos control app didn’t make any significant improvement in the past few years, this unlike Spotify! If this battle between Sonos and Spotify continues, I will switch to a Spotify friendly device. Three years ago I have chosen for Sonos above a Marantz streamer, for that reason!. My hardware is 3 years old now and replacing the streamer only for my living room is not that costly. It is highly frustrating when my music evening is spoiled by connection problems. First I start looking for problems in my own network, resetting switches and routers, checking cables, does streaming radio work, does Spotify on my iPad work etc… and until know, in the past three years I am using this combo, it was always the Sonos – Spotify connection and never my own system or the internet provider. So keep in mind, I want a quality music experience and not being a victim of a marketing war! So count your blessings.
Hi folks, There's not much to say at the moment but we'd like everyone to understand where we're coming regarding the announcement from Spotify. Sonos is a platform for music lovers and we want Sonos customers to enjoy all the music on earth from whatever source they choose. We have an excellent partnership with Spotify which is, and will continue to be, an important part of many of our customers music listening experience on Sonos. Thanks for your continued support.
I agree with Ryan here. I think this feature would be really essential. I see a high risk of scaring customers off by not implementing Spotify Connect into Sonos. I speak for myself right now, but I'm asking myself why I should spend so much money for a product that doesn't keep up with the technological advance?! For me it's really simple... Sonos is not implementing this feature, I'll look elsewhere for hardware that already does support it. Because it seems like the easiest way to listen to music in multiple rooms. And as a matter of fact, that's the only reason I bought a Play 5 and a Play 3. I've just had enough of experimenting with Raspberry Pi and getting disappointing results. Your product is really good. Why not make it excellent by implementing Spotify Connect?!
Yes, there is: http://gigaom.com/2013/10/14/sonos-releases-new-200-speaker-ceo-dismisses-spotifys-connect-speaker-partnerships/
After purchasing Sonos players both for myself and family members during the last year, I am now stopping our planned Sonos-extensions. Given Sonos-CEO John MacFarlane's clear statement that Spotify Connect will not be supported by Sonos, we can not invest further in Sonos equipment. Spotify is the most important part of our music experience, and Spotify app features such as Spotify radio and search across titles, artists and albums are both useful and well implemented. Given the availability of Spotify Connect, I'm afraid support for this is essential for our future purchases.
I am confused. In China the QQ Audio Service App (Chinese Spotify Competitor) offers "Play on Sonos" as option. This is SpotifyConnect-like. Now the guy said he DOES NOT want to join SpotifyConnect, however given the chinese example he offers a "play on Sonos" Button (as other sources say as part of an open API) that apps can integrate. So Spotify offered the "Beam on Sonos" (aka SpotifyConnect) which is controlled by the Streaming Service Providers and Sonos says no. Now Sonos comes up with a "Play on Sonos" Button to offer the Streaming Service Providers for the same fuc*ing functionality. Srsly, this is insane. Just childish and stupid. Of course Spotify will say NO, as they would allow an inhouse competitor to their own Standard SpotifyConnect. Simply Bose, Yamaha, Pioneer, Teufel etc. could have come up with their own Play on XYZ APIs but there is a defined standard from Spotify. So for what reason should spotify now allow Sonos to have that button inside their app? There is none. I mean just re-apply this to another world: Mobile Networks. T-Mobile offers Nokia the chance to be early adopter for the LTE Standard. Nokia denies but Apple, Samsung, HTC and the rest of the crowd joins in. Nokia feels like their are missing a competitive advantage and comes with their own standard. Let's call it HSN. With lots of money you will find a provider in a country that is willing to invest and test and showcase that. However, majority of users will never have that expierence and the standard is none. More examples? Apple Maps, tomtom, MiniDisc, Quicktime, Flash Player, HD-DVD. You are all right to sell your sonos equipment as long as you still get some bucks for it and the big crowd doesn't realize the difference. In a year from today you will have outdated dinosaurs at home with a non-accepted standard that some minor streaming services like juke.fm will support. It's like the UMTS standard is on knocking on the door and we know that all we can do with our phones is core functionality of talking while everyone will ask for the full package with high speed internet. Sonos is right to say that we can use it, but the expierence will just not be giving us the Geek Factor and advantage to have a TOP device. Its just somehow working with basic features. Fail of the century, guys. Be happy you are not on Nasdaq, you would be a penny stock in less than week.
After purchasing Sonos players both for myself and family members during the last year, I am now stopping our planned Sonos-extensions. Given Sonos-CEO John MacFarlane's clear statement that Spotify Connect will not be supported by Sonos, we can not invest further in Sonos equipment. Spotify is the most important part of our music experience, and Spotify app features such as Spotify radio and search across titles, artists and albums are both useful and well implemented. Given the availability of Spotify Connect, I'm afraid support for this is essential for our future purchases.
Interestingly it sounds like this is a decision by Sonos not to participate. Not Spotify not allowing Sonos to participate. I'm referring to the recent announcements from the Sonos Sales Director. Please can Sonos correct my miss understanding or confirm correct.
Samsung and Bose have both announced new speakers that will compete with Sonos. The specs of both brands show to be more flexible in the different ways that music can be broadcast to the speakers in comparison to Sonos. Samsung single speaker configuration allows you to listen to music via Bluetooth and NFC configuration. A hub configuration is also available if multiple speakers are purchased. Should Sonos be worried? How about the technology used by all 3 brands...which one is better/more reliable for clear/clean/uninterrupted music? Your thoughts?
I cannot believe how difficult Sonos makes it to discover new music. They claim that these devices give you all the music in the world at your fingertips, but apparently you have to be familiar with all the music in the world before you can play it through Sonos. I can't believe I wasted so much money on a speaker. There go my plans to fill my house with Sonos. I guess I'm in the market for a good set of computer speakers now.
I can't believe this feature is not even being considered by the sonos team. It would be so simple to add it... I bought two play:5 and a SUB. But as of this moment, i will stop any future sonos device purchases until this gets resolved. If it's not resolved in a reasonable time frame, i will definitely sell all my sonos systems and buy the really new stuff that other companies are going to release. SONOS: This is not the way you treat all your current loyal customers... and of course the lack of new features like SPOTIFY CONNECT will NOT attract any new customers. I bought sonos products in the past because they were the best at the moment... but your arrogant way to tell your customers that your controller is "the best" will make all SONOS devices an inferior product (compared to the competition) very, very soon. Of course you could change your mind and be the very first company to bring SPOTIFY CONNECT to the public.
Just bought my sonos play:3 and sadly only just found this post. I can understand the guys at sonos having their own app, but if its branded as compatible with spotify and doesn't allow the full range of features (especially radio) then that simply misleading advertisement. Luckily the place I bought it from gives full refunds. It's back box already and I'll be getting my money back and swapping it for a different brand tomorrow. Sorry Sonos, you looked great and roped me in, but not providing a competitive offering isn't going to bode well for your future.
Same attitude as with Windows 8 / Phone 8 app. Simply ignore the customers. I bought 2xSonos Play:5 uniquely to listen to Spotify, with the intention to buy 4 more to cover my house. Sonos controller for Spotify has not evolved and apparently will not evolve anymore. Other makers are rapidly catching up on Sonos build/sound quality but will offer Spotify Connect. In my case the choice is quickly made. I am not hanging around until it pleases Sonos to communicate or adapt. Watch eBay for a pair of Sonos Play:5.
I've been watching this topic for some weeks and am frustrated as many writers that I can't use Sonos to interact with the full and excellent functionality of Spotify. I have Sonos in two houses and love it but am having a new affair with a piece of kit that gets around this problem and rivals Sonos quality, being a Bose Soundlink Mini. I feel guilty about this dirty little secret but I so want just to set a Spotify Radio session and enjoy it while i do a day's work. Come on Sonos.....stop my cheating ways and add Spotify radio.
after Phillips' announcement last week comes the next one from Pioneer regarding firmware upgrades on existing products to make them 'Spotify Connect compatible' http://asia.cnet.com/spotify-connect-upgrade-for-selected-pioneer-products-62222326.htm so clearly no special 'chip' is required. I doubt very much it is a technological limitation. For whatever reason, Spotify and Sonos cannot/will not reach an agreement for Sonos to do the same. Since Spotify get a premium subscription regardless, I fail to see why they wouldnt allow this.
It just clearly shows that this is known for a while XW-SMA3-K has been released in JUNE 2012 Others in March 2013 and later. So it can not be said that Sonos wouldn't have be able to know about it, when Pioneer over a year ago was already producing hardware that is able to acquire a certification. So either Pioneer knew way before (which I do not believe) or SONOS simply had this knowledge but kept on selling the hardware under false argumentation as delivering the best Spotify experience, knowing that this wont last for long. Lets see how SONOS reacts, else this indice might be a great cliffhanger for my lawyer to have all of my sonos equipment returned as they do false promises about product capabilities..
Any update from Sonos here? I really think the Sonos Controller is falling behind in functionality.
I recently pulled the trigger on two Sonos connects and don't regret it. We're a 100% windows family, Windows 8, Windows Phone 8, Surface RT... I bought "Phonos" for our phones and it's cool, it lets me access stuff already set up on my services (pretty much) but it doesn't have the same capabilities as the PC AP. And I read poor reviews for the 3rd party RT apps. When it comes to music services we are a Spotify family. We LOVE it. Such an awesome pure focus on music. It pairs so well with Sonos and it would be fantastic to control it from the PC app, and ideally the Windows Phone 8 app too. That's my verbose version of this topic. I'm excited to see what comes and hope that Sonos and Spotify can continue to recognize for many families they are a perfect marriage. That along with some speakers and AMPs 😉
Forgive me if I am wrong, but if you have an Sonos ipod dock and an old ipod touch, you could theoretically have spotify connect through your sonos system, it would just be a bit slow to move between different zones as you would have to launch the sonos software to change. A work around, but I can see a fix through something similar could be possible, what about a "spotify sonos dongle" that includes the "new" hardware required to use the spotify connect system and link it to your sonos system, opening up the entire thing to spotify's connect architecture and monetizing it for them at the same time!
and not all of us are ipod/iphone users 🙂
Please support this (4 play:3, 1 play:5, 1 connect, 1 sub user).
after Phillips' announcement last week comes the next one from Pioneer regarding firmware upgrades on existing products to make them 'Spotify Connect compatible' http://asia.cnet.com/spotify-connect-upgrade-for-selected-pioneer-products-62222326.htm so clearly no special 'chip' is required. I doubt very much it is a technological limitation. For whatever reason, Spotify and Sonos cannot/will not reach an agreement for Sonos to do the same. Since Spotify get a premium subscription regardless, I fail to see why they wouldnt allow this.
Confirmation that Spotify Connect requires a chip: "Spotify Connect will launch with ten hardware partners: Argon, Bang & Olufsen, Denon, Hama, Marantz, Philips, Pioneer, Revo, Teufel and Yamaha. Any wireless products from these companies with the appropriate chip inside will now be able to stream music via Spotify, which can be controlled from your smartphone or tablet's Spotify app." http://www.whathifi.com/news/spotify-connect-takes-aim-at-airplay-and-sonos
Forgive me if I am wrong, but if you have an Sonos ipod dock and an old ipod touch, you could theoretically have spotify connect through your sonos system, it would just be a bit slow to move between different zones as you would have to launch the sonos software to change. A work around, but I can see a fix through something similar could be possible, what about a "spotify sonos dongle" that includes the "new" hardware required to use the spotify connect system and link it to your sonos system, opening up the entire thing to spotify's connect architecture and monetizing it for them at the same time!
Ah, but if the dongle was produced by sonos it could feasibly control the zones as well, whether by add-in to the sonos software or better yet, the spotify side.
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Forgive me if I am wrong, but if you have an Sonos ipod dock and an old ipod touch, you could theoretically have spotify connect through your sonos system, it would just be a bit slow to move between different zones as you would have to launch the sonos software to change. A work around, but I can see a fix through something similar could be possible, what about a "spotify sonos dongle" that includes the "new" hardware required to use the spotify connect system and link it to your sonos system, opening up the entire thing to spotify's connect architecture and monetizing it for them at the same time!
indeed an ipod via dock or line in is a potential workaround. However you would need to use the Sonos app to adjust volume and groups etc then the spotify app to select and change the music - it would be far better from within one app. a dongle type device would have the same drawbacks but if it had a digital output could be used to 'feed' the sonos system via my Playbar which would improve the sound quality at least 🙂