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Sonos Play 1 + Amazon Echo Dot?!?!
Hey everybody, i have the Sonos Play 1 twice at the moment and im thinking about buying a Amazon Echo Dot. Am i yet able to connect the devices via WIFI? Thanks.
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Those who are losing an argument are always the first to resort to personal insults.
Hahaha! This is actually hilarious!
@jgatie, @bockersvj, @Kumar: If you're claiming to be users (as opposed to paid employees), then you really need to get better at pretending (13.5k posts and the corporate-speak are a bit of a giveaway). Else, you should really learn a bit about software interfaces (@bockersvj, the 'voice enable' comment was hilarious), and you probably shouldn't be baiting customers in an online forum (but go ahead and check with marketing if you're not sure :D).
To clarify one point: I never claimed to _know_ what the majority of other customers want, I said I _suspect_ other customers _on this thread_ might want something similar to what I do. And if you do want numbers, 220k Google hits on "Sonos stream from browser" is a pretty good indication that I'm not entirely alone in this.
Anyway, continuing this discussion with a bunch of apologists is evidently a waste of time: it's quite apparent you're entirely uninterested in giving Sonos feedback on how to improve, but instead are uniquely (and inexplicably) intent on justifying why the status quo is just fine.
I'm going to get on with my life now, but I might pop back every now and again.
@jgatie, @bockersvj, @Kumar: If you're claiming to be users (as opposed to paid employees), then you really need to get better at pretending (13.5k posts and the corporate-speak are a bit of a giveaway). Else, you should really learn a bit about software interfaces (@bockersvj, the 'voice enable' comment was hilarious), and you probably shouldn't be baiting customers in an online forum (but go ahead and check with marketing if you're not sure :D).
To clarify one point: I never claimed to _know_ what the majority of other customers want, I said I _suspect_ other customers _on this thread_ might want something similar to what I do. And if you do want numbers, 220k Google hits on "Sonos stream from browser" is a pretty good indication that I'm not entirely alone in this.
Anyway, continuing this discussion with a bunch of apologists is evidently a waste of time: it's quite apparent you're entirely uninterested in giving Sonos feedback on how to improve, but instead are uniquely (and inexplicably) intent on justifying why the status quo is just fine.
I'm going to get on with my life now, but I might pop back every now and again.
Thank you, bockersjv. Could not have said it better. I have many music services that have no presence on the Amazon Echo. I prefer to be able to use them in a coordinated, fully integrated Voice Control system with a universal UI, just like I do with the Sonos app. The last thing I want is for Sonos to become a glorified Bluetooth speaker for third party hardware and/or apps.
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But quite apart from questioning your motives, jgatie, (and I do), your comment reflects _exactly_ the kind of misguided thinking that appears to be leading Sonos astray. So let me spell it out:
1/ I emphatically *don't want* Sonos software to be searching multiple music sources, shuffling, doing queueing, or anything of the kind. Those problems have been solved (very well, I might add) by Spotify, Amazon, Apple Music, Pandora etc. etc. In fact, I'd really rather Sonos stopped designing user-facing music management software at all, because the results are ample proof that they suck at it.
2/ What I would really welcome (like a majority of people on the thread, I suspect) would be the ability to use the Sonos system as a *sound output device* for whatever system I'm using. If you can do a device-independent service integration like with Spotify then great (although usability is fairly poor tbh). However, I for one would be perfectly happy if you just __finally__ let me stream sound from whatever device I'm using to the Sonos system. And yes I know that will have implications for device battery life, but I'd appreciate if that were my choice. Note that solves the Alexa integration, AppleTV integration, browser streaming question and all the rest of it in one go.
How do you know what the majority want? Have you done a survey/run a customer focus group/analyse usage stats? I want a bit more that just telling Alexa to stream what is playing to my Sonos
Well maybe there is work to voice enable these things? I just guessing here but I doubt it is that simple and does require development
3/ Crossfade, volume controls per room etc. are already built into Sonos control software, so I don't see how they're relevant to the development effort for new features.
4/ "An infrastructure that has never had to interact with other IOT devices" - unlike home appliance manufacturers? That's just silly.
TL;DR: Sonos should stop trying to develop music management software and instead focus a thin layer of communication protocols that can register the speakers / rooms on my network and stream sound from whatever device I happen to be using.
Edits: Minor edits for clarity, typo.
Please don't assume you speak for the majority. I for one want all of what you have dismissed.
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Hmmm...let me guess. Could it perhaps be because this is a Sonos run forum for Sonos users/would be users to troubleshoot, get guidance on which part of the range suits their needs best, discuss which third party products work well with Sonos kit, and to be updated on Sonos plans for the future to the extent that Sonos is able to share these with the public?
Question of semantics too: is someone that promotes or clarifies a Sonos point of view on a site maintained by Sonos, be called a troll? As defined here:
"a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal, on-topic discussion,[3] often for the troll's amusement."
I think not.
There seems to be a surprising number of Sonos-friendly trolls on this and similar threads. I wonder why...
But quite apart from questioning your motives, jgatie, (and I do), your comment reflects _exactly_ the kind of misguided thinking that appears to be leading Sonos astray. So let me spell it out:
1/ I emphatically *don't want* Sonos software to be searching multiple music sources, shuffling, doing queueing, or anything of the kind. Those problems have been solved (very well, I might add) by Spotify, Amazon, Apple Music, Pandora etc. etc. In fact, I'd really rather Sonos stopped designing user-facing music management software at all, because the results are ample proof that they suck at it.
2/ What I would really welcome (like a majority of people on the thread, I suspect) would be the ability to use the Sonos system as a *sound output device* for whatever system I'm using. If you can do a device-independent service integration like with Spotify then great (although usability is fairly poor tbh). However, I for one would be perfectly happy if you just __finally__ let me stream sound from whatever device I'm using to the Sonos system. And yes I know that will have implications for device battery life, but I'd appreciate if that were my choice. Note that solves the Alexa integration, AppleTV integration, browser streaming question and all the rest of it in one go.
3/ Crossfade, volume controls per room etc. are already built into Sonos control software, so I don't see how they're relevant to the development effort for new features.
4/ "An infrastructure that has never had to interact with other IOT devices" - unlike home appliance manufacturers? That's just silly.
TL;DR: Sonos should stop trying to develop music management software and instead focus a thin layer of communication protocols that can register the speakers / rooms on my network and stream sound from whatever device I happen to be using.
Edits: Minor edits for clarity, typo.
But quite apart from questioning your motives, jgatie, (and I do), your comment reflects _exactly_ the kind of misguided thinking that appears to be leading Sonos astray. So let me spell it out:
1/ I emphatically *don't want* Sonos software to be searching multiple music sources, shuffling, doing queueing, or anything of the kind. Those problems have been solved (very well, I might add) by Spotify, Amazon, Apple Music, Pandora etc. etc. In fact, I'd really rather Sonos stopped designing user-facing music management software at all, because the results are ample proof that they suck at it.
2/ What I would really welcome (like a majority of people on the thread, I suspect) would be the ability to use the Sonos system as a *sound output device* for whatever system I'm using. If you can do a device-independent service integration like with Spotify then great (although usability is fairly poor tbh). However, I for one would be perfectly happy if you just __finally__ let me stream sound from whatever device I'm using to the Sonos system. And yes I know that will have implications for device battery life, but I'd appreciate if that were my choice. Note that solves the Alexa integration, AppleTV integration, browser streaming question and all the rest of it in one go.
3/ Crossfade, volume controls per room etc. are already built into Sonos control software, so I don't see how they're relevant to the development effort for new features.
4/ "An infrastructure that has never had to interact with other IOT devices" - unlike home appliance manufacturers? That's just silly.
TL;DR: Sonos should stop trying to develop music management software and instead focus a thin layer of communication protocols that can register the speakers / rooms on my network and stream sound from whatever device I happen to be using.
Edits: Minor edits for clarity, typo.
Yeah, cause turning a lightbulb on or off is the same thing as searching multiple music sources for a single song, album, or artist among multiple millions of entries, then having them play to multiple rooms at various volume levels, while being able to group and ungroup those rooms at will. Not to mention turn on shuffle, repeat, crossfade, shift between queue and radio sources, mute single rooms as well as groups, set alarms, set timers, etc., etc., etc. All using an infrastructure that, unlike other internet devices, never had to interact with other IOT devices before.
Yeah, it's all the same. Congrats on the funniest post all month. :8
Yeah, it's all the same. Congrats on the funniest post all month. :8
But Sonos are working on it. Keep an eye on this forum for news
WORK. FASTER.
This is now six months old and still no sign of the integration. Honestly people, how hard can it be for Sonos to integrate with Alexa when even lightbulb companies managed ages ago?! This is just embarrassing and intensely frustrating!
Hire more software engineers! Do overtime! Ship the bloody update! Jeesh!
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Very Helpful article I found - http://www.sam-mallery.com/2016/12/5-tips-for-using-amazon-echo-dot-with-sonos/
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Yea dot is of no use to you currently with a play:1. That will change first half of this year with Alexa support coming. Right now a dot can be hooked into a Sonos with input to give you support (I have done with my play:5 in past).
Well thanks for the quick answers i think i will have to show some patience... 😕
The good - such new amazing personal assistants (Google, Amazon, soon Microsoft) are not on sale in Italy, hence I have less super fancy stuff to care about 🙂 . Which is also the bad. 😞 Saw some hints on Sonos working on this space, but not saw anything official yet, if I checked properly.
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No
But Sonos are working on it. Keep an eye on this forum for news
But Sonos are working on it. Keep an eye on this forum for news
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