Some speakers can not be ‘downgraded’ to S1, they don’t exist in the operating system as a defined speaker. Which devices are you interested in downgrading?
It might help you to read this, and the associated FAQs.
Sonos is not a music player like Apple Music or pandora. It was nice to be able to use the volume control inside the app itself. But moving the tab is not that big of a deal. Y'all get overly wound up over the littlest of things. I am sure apple wants to limit Sonos and certain apps functionality to drive people to THEIR product. Don't blame Sonos blame apple.
If it is that big of a deal, just use the voice commands “hey Sonos turn it down 20%” etc.
Y’all havent read the entire thread, Ubet, or you’d understand that all the response leads to the point that Sonos made this decision themselves. I’ve had Sonos products since 2012 and am a big fan, even still have my original play5, never complained once, so this isn’t some gripe - I’m funamentally annoyed that a feature I use EVERY DAY has been removed.
Voice controls are just as useless as unlocking the phone if you’re in a room where someone else is sleeping. It’s a backward step, Spotify can handle it, Sonos now can’t… so its achieveable, they’ve decided not to.
Yes I read the whole thread, and understand that it was disabled because they couldn’t keep it working for apple and Apple doesn’t allow the function on stuff that isn’t a music player. That is why it still works on Android not ios.
just because you only choose to see what you want to see doesn’t change the facts.
dcsearle,
Your world has not completely collapsed. You can have it your way by simply playing Spotify using the Spotify App. If the Spotify App annoys you in some way, take this up with Spotify.
While Lock Screen controls seem to be central to some users’ vision, I never use them other than to explore a comment made here. I don’t want my phone/pad/computer fussing with music. This was my original reason for adopting SONOS. If my phone/pad/computer crashes or needs a reboot, the music continues. Plus, in my opinion, there are awkward interactions between Apps with respect to handling audio. If I interact with another App that provides audio, it may replace the music and it is quite awkward to revert to the music. Also, I move around and the Lock Screen tends to be linked to the wrong Room. This could result in my accidentally adjusting the wrong Room or another user adjusting my Room.
@buzz - you assume ppl are using Spotify… guess what, not everyone is. It’s a big deal that this features is gone, sure there are workarounds, but that’s all they are, nothing as convenient as changing vol without unlocking an iPhone was.
@buzz - you assume ppl are using Spotify… guess what, not everyone is. It’s a big deal that this features is gone, sure there are workarounds, but that’s all they are, nothing as convenient as changing vol without unlocking an iPhone was.
I don’t use Spotify. I did use the feature, but I don’t consider it to be a big deal for it to be a dropped feature.
I’m not trying to be confrontational; I’m just saying it’s not a big deal to everyone. I accept that it was an important feature to you, and many others, but not to all.
I call *, laziness or corporate nonsense - and probably all three. How can they think this is acceptable?
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I’ve tested the S1 app by downgrading one speaker and the iPhone sonos app volume control works!! I did not check S1 in the Lock Screen as that was less important to me. S2 volume control never works anymore. This is a big deal to me as I used to be able to control the volume with everything including my Apple Watch. None of these work anymore. A real disappointment. 
How do I downgrade my entire system to S1 to get this vital feature back? I get an error saying downgrading failed. Do I need to buy new S1 units?
Thanks in advance!!
S1 no longer has it, either. Apple clamped down on its rules against using hard buttons or the lock screen to control 3rd party hardware. If Sonos didn't get rid of it, they'd be kicked off the App Store.
In app S1 volume control works with IOS 17. I just need to know how to move the rest of my system over to S1. Waiting for support on this request.
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How is a user expected to change the volume of tunes played from the iPhone on the Beam?
Right. Boycott Sonos, based on a decision made by Apple. Makes sense.
What a stupid excuse. No more sonos products for me.
such nonsense, Sonos and Apple have problems with each other and the customer has the errors again, when will these problems finally stop... Other apps can access the volume controls without any difficulty, excuses for stupid...
This sucks! Now I have to go into app and swipe volume op or down. Much prefer using the physical volume buttons on iPhone also when locked…
Gotto change as this is not user-frienfly at all!
There’s already a thread about this:
Apple isn’t forcing this - Sonos made this decision on their own. The end.
Apple isn’t forcing this - Sonos made this decision on their own. The end.
Always a pleasure to encounter those who know best.
Not “know best”: they just “know”. They rarely reveal the source of their knowledge, of course, or any facts to justify it.
Perhaps @KP2023America will be an exception?
The Sonos Rep literally told me it was Sonos’ decision. I posted that in my first post. No need to turn this into a partisan issue although it’s hard to tell if you have a position or just want to be combative. Go out and get some sunshine. Enjoy the beach. Greet the world with a smile. 
Nice. 
is good.
Let’s imagine that there is an A/V receiver (or two or three) in the house and you want the same Lock Screen service? Since the service was always a hack, which control should survive?
Perhaps I kicked the tires once or twice, but this was not a feature that I used. It always seemed like a risky feature because I move around the house. How does the Lock Screen feature know which room I’m listening in?
Kinda vexing that the volume button functionality is still available if we abandon S2 and use the Apple Music app.
Thanks. Sirius is aware of my concerns as is Sonos. Apple Music and Spotify do not have the content I’m interested in
@Siriusblows Maybe I was confused because you mentioned you where working with the Sirius app, not the Sonos app?
@YellowGypsy See https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/symfonisk-dirigera-sound-remote-with-hub-kit-gen-2-smart-white-s79536918/
Nice thanks. I’m confused as well sometimes. I use the Sonos app to listen to Sirius satellite radio on an sl 1 I’m not aware of a way to connect the Sirius app to the the sl1. I believe but don’t know or care that the new Sonos speaker is Bluetooth and I could use the Sirius app but that’s not my reality. I’m gonna * the speaker and do something else Sonos free
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This is a significant setback for the product. Is anyone aware if Sonos produce a hardware remote control that can be used with their products instead? Thank you.
I agree. I would even spend additional money for a hardware remote. If you are going to make things harder to control at least give us a better option.
Also, since I see some mods have removed things. Is there any plans to bring this back? Not a total deal breaker but I am starting to lose patience with these kind of things. Sonos is less and less the only game in town (cough Audio Pro) and I would hope they would get that. I have over ten products, but also I am one of the types to sell everything and go to a whole new ecosystem if I get annoyed enough.
