Is there any way to put a password on your sonos system?
Trying to stop everyone logging in and switching the play list, wondering if there is any way to put a password on the system so only those with the code can access the system
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We are in 2017. EVERY connected device should be protected by password, full stop. (then it's your responsibility if the password is too easy). Of course we can all setup guest wifi, or setup a wifi dedicated to sonos, or don't give password of the wifi to no one... At the end of the day it would be much easier for everybody if the system could be protected. Like my TV, my PS4, my set top box, my camera, my NAS, my whatever... Funny how Sonos considers login with complex password is required to publish comments on this forum, while considers protecting its own devices is not really needed...
Nonsense
Sonos is just a smart radio or Turntable.
Furthermore, the only people who have access to your Sonos system are those you have entrusted with your Wi-Fi password.
I, for one, do NOT want "added security" aka cumbersome botheration to listen to my music thankyou very much
Yes, the repeated mantra of ‘educate/discipline’ your children / it’s up to you who you let on your network etc. all seem to miss the point I think of why many people are requesting this.
Just because I let somebody onto my network should not (and does not, in any semblance of a ‘proper’ network) mean they can do anything they like on it. While some may allow them on purely for internet access (in which case, as suggested, just allow them access to guest WiFi), some may let them on and allow guest access to a NAS. They cannot do this on Guest WiFi. You may let them on to see a shared media folder from my PC. They cannot do this on Guest WiFi. I can and do choose to password protect other areas and devices. i.e. adding them to a guest WiFi would not give them access to what I want them to access.
With many devices the access control can be more granular yet the oft repeated mantra here appears to be that access to one’s home network and Sonos has to be synonymous – I don’t see why that has to be the case. As above, there can be very legitimate reasons why one would wish somebody to have access to a network – but not a Sonos system residing on it.
As far as ‘access control’ goes, for many/most, it could simply be OFF and would completely behave as it does now.. Or, it could require a password each time it is accessed (can’t EVER see me using that).. However, one option I see a use case for is for any first time access to require a PIN. That way, users allow people onto their network and give them access to the data they need them to see – but are not opening their Sonos system to any other shenanigans, ‘funny’ or otherwise.
I have no problem at all with Sonos adding an access control OPTION to the system. Well implemented it would not affect me. There are so many comments by users in this thread and others opposing things that don’t even affect them. Other than ignoring such requests, like many do seem to do, or commenting and moving on, sometimes the strength of opposition, to something they wouldn’t even be affected by is brilliantly funny - yet rather sad at the same time.
Accept some people have use cases different to your own and move on.
Just because I let somebody onto my network should not (and does not, in any semblance of a ‘proper’ network) mean they can do anything they like on it. While some may allow them on purely for internet access (in which case, as suggested, just allow them access to guest WiFi), some may let them on and allow guest access to a NAS. They cannot do this on Guest WiFi. You may let them on to see a shared media folder from my PC. They cannot do this on Guest WiFi. I can and do choose to password protect other areas and devices. i.e. adding them to a guest WiFi would not give them access to what I want them to access.
With many devices the access control can be more granular yet the oft repeated mantra here appears to be that access to one’s home network and Sonos has to be synonymous – I don’t see why that has to be the case. As above, there can be very legitimate reasons why one would wish somebody to have access to a network – but not a Sonos system residing on it.
As far as ‘access control’ goes, for many/most, it could simply be OFF and would completely behave as it does now.. Or, it could require a password each time it is accessed (can’t EVER see me using that).. However, one option I see a use case for is for any first time access to require a PIN. That way, users allow people onto their network and give them access to the data they need them to see – but are not opening their Sonos system to any other shenanigans, ‘funny’ or otherwise.
I have no problem at all with Sonos adding an access control OPTION to the system. Well implemented it would not affect me. There are so many comments by users in this thread and others opposing things that don’t even affect them. Other than ignoring such requests, like many do seem to do, or commenting and moving on, sometimes the strength of opposition, to something they wouldn’t even be affected by is brilliantly funny - yet rather sad at the same time.
Accept some people have use cases different to your own and move on.
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Actually. I don't have a problem with the request per se. It's perfectly valid that some people want this "feature" and clearly some do.
However, I do take issue when people invent specious reasoning viz "We are in 2017. EVERY connected device should be protected by password, full stop" - That, again, is a valid opinion but as a blanket statement of fact - not having it, sorry.
And what's wrong with suggesting proper discipline for those given the responsibility of full access to your Wi-Fi network?
However, I do take issue when people invent specious reasoning viz "We are in 2017. EVERY connected device should be protected by password, full stop" - That, again, is a valid opinion but as a blanket statement of fact - not having it, sorry.
And what's wrong with suggesting proper discipline for those given the responsibility of full access to your Wi-Fi network?
Sonos already provided the facility to separate systems by setting up separate households. Presently you can have your kids under separate systems from yours, but there is no way to stop them from jumping between them in the app
Adding the option to set a password to join a system would accomplish the scenario you describe afaict.
correct....I have 4 kids in house....2 not mine.....I want to stop them controlling the music in any zone. The downside of having a big Sonos system with 20+ components is that anybody that lives with you - i.e. 4 teenagers, can do whatever they want when you are entertaining friends - furthermore you can't tell which of the 6 of with access is doing mucking around. Basic necessity if you embrace the sonos system as wholeheartedly as i have.
Really annoying lack of functionality. Along with not being able to permantently link zones.
This is a sysetem built for 1-3 zone households.
They have not scaled the systems capabilities to keep pace with their own success in selling lots of speakers to big households.
Clearly they don't. This has been an issue for years now, and there doesn't appear to be any security development at all. Personally, I was already aware of this flaw before purchasing my Sonos. However, I am an IT professional and am always looking at security for any networked device. The average person doesn't have my mindset and I can certainly understand their frustration with discovering this lack of security after the purchase. It really is a very BASIC security feature that should be available. That being said, it appears that the competition lacks this ability as well, so there's little incentive for Sonos to offer this.
However, I think the concept of the zero trust network is soon to be headed to people's homes, Sonos and the other smart-home device manufacturers will eventually need to address these concerns. Some have already started, but we'll just need to be patient for everyone else to catch up. Meanwhile, security conscious users will need to take matters into their own hands, and implement their own security.
Personally, I have implemented NAC on my home network. However, if your equipment doesn't support this (and I think most home networks don't), a simple solution could be to just plug in another wireless router into your existing router. Make sure this is a router (with firewall) and not just an access point, otherwise it would be pointless. Your Sonos equipment and any phones/tablets that need to control the Sonos would connect to this new network, while all other "untrusted" devices would remain on the original network. Yes, I understand that you shouldn't have to do this, and this introduces additional wireless interference concerns, and Sonos should have security functionality built in, but they don't. We can continue to complain, and I think we should to let Sonos know there are those demanding this feature, but meanwhile you shouldn't just wait and do nothing if you're really concerned about security.
However, I think the concept of the zero trust network is soon to be headed to people's homes, Sonos and the other smart-home device manufacturers will eventually need to address these concerns. Some have already started, but we'll just need to be patient for everyone else to catch up. Meanwhile, security conscious users will need to take matters into their own hands, and implement their own security.
Personally, I have implemented NAC on my home network. However, if your equipment doesn't support this (and I think most home networks don't), a simple solution could be to just plug in another wireless router into your existing router. Make sure this is a router (with firewall) and not just an access point, otherwise it would be pointless. Your Sonos equipment and any phones/tablets that need to control the Sonos would connect to this new network, while all other "untrusted" devices would remain on the original network. Yes, I understand that you shouldn't have to do this, and this introduces additional wireless interference concerns, and Sonos should have security functionality built in, but they don't. We can continue to complain, and I think we should to let Sonos know there are those demanding this feature, but meanwhile you shouldn't just wait and do nothing if you're really concerned about security.
Hello, There isn't a way to set a password or limit accessibility of the Sonos system. If someone has an iOS or Android device and is able to connect to your main network and gone through the setup process with the Sonos application they will have access to the system.
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Scott, i wrote 2 comments below. I would love to hear a realistic statement about the future developments in this matter.. especially you guys are talking about it since years.
I also ask sonos about password protection ,a apple tv also have the possibility to protect your network why not on your sonos or the choise
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I have a related question. I have 7 Sonos devices in 3 homes. When I go back and forth between houses I am constantly resetting the controller. Support has told me this is for my own protection, but I do not buy that as others are saying in this thread. There needs to be some form authentication. I would like to be able to select "which Sonos" I want to connect to and then enter a PIN if I am changing from one to another. It would also be nice to be able to have the Sonos Favorites list in you cloud or in the controller so that it can be the same for multiple devices, if desired. Many people who can afford Sonos also have more than one home and what I am suggesting is really needed.
It's a bit easy to say it's not possible while there are many users requesting for it.
My situation in this case is that we are using Sonos on our company, we have 7 Sonos PLAY:1 systems running on each department/floor, but every employee is able to switch the songs.
It's unacceptable to reply on such a request with such an easy answer.
I love Sonos, and we all do.. It's a great system and it works great.
But to implement this easy authentication utility must not be difficult.
My situation in this case is that we are using Sonos on our company, we have 7 Sonos PLAY:1 systems running on each department/floor, but every employee is able to switch the songs.
I would like to see this easy utility implemented shortly.
I love Sonos, and we all do.. It's a great system and it works great.
But to implement this easy authentication utility must not be difficult.
I would like to see this easy utility implemented shortly.
I love Sonos, and we all do.. It's a great system and it works great.
But to implement this easy authentication utility must not be difficult.
same here
when i have friends over they usually get my password i guess that's kind of normal, right? but that means they should be able to use my network but not my sonos. however when they are physically present they can get access to sonos which doesnt make much sense to me. a simple password would help
i could also picture my kids playing around with my sonos. and i guess i can't prohibit them to acces the network at home
why cant you? you pay for the network not the kids. I just love the entitlement children feel nowadays and the parents that accommodate it.
I can segregate my network easily enough with multiple VLANs and separate access points. My issue is I'd like to be able to lock the SONOS configuration equipment-wise so significant other or kids can't rename things, drop devices, etc.. It isn't malicious but my significant other gets frustrated and starts doing things she doesn't understand. So, I spend time each week fixing the configuration. I also like the idea of controlling multiple homes from one controller without having to rejoin each time. Thank you
I have just experienced a scenario mentioned above when during a party one of my kids' boyfriends decided to screw around with my Sonos system via the iOS app. He got the network access code from her, then had free reign over the music during the party. Red faces all around as my boss and senior management were in attendance, with music stopping, jumping from track to track without me being able to understand why. In the end I turned it off and resorted to playing CDs through my PC and into an external amp. It is astonishing that there is no option to password protect the system. This is something you must address immediately, or I for one will be selling my 4 Sonos pieces of kit. Ridiculous.
Hi Anthony, how bad it may sounds, but I love your situation. Love it in the way I hope SONOS is finally doing something about it! It ridiculous that this small feature with such a hugh effects is not yet been implemented..
Thanks Bjorn. I really hope they sort this out, because Sonos is a great concept and decent quality kit. I live in hope, but if nothing has happened in the next 6 months (I know how long software development can take) it would mean that all the time people have been urging Sonos to do something, they have not paid attention. And that is not acceptable.
And the daughter's boyfriend that alerted me to this (no matter how stupidly) is now banned from my house!
And the daughter's boyfriend that alerted me to this (no matter how stupidly) is now banned from my house!
And the daughter's boyfriend that alerted me to this (no matter how stupidly) is now banned from my house!
I'm following this discussion from almost the beginning, and that's more then 1 year ago.. Not even a reply from a member from SONOS yet, it's ridiculous..
A software development takes a while indeed, but no reply after over a year doesn't look like any progress, or listening to customer feedback. While SONOS is not cheap at all, you're paying for quality. So you expect the best (my opinion..)
Banned from the house sounds reasonable.
He just tried to impress your daughter, which was on the wrong time and moment.. Hope your relationship with your boss didn't change during this little incident..
Also I hope SONOS will read this to understand the importance of this small feature.. Same thing on our company, co-workers can access SONOS easily if they understand a little bit of the technology.. You just don't want anyone to screw with the sound while you're giving an presentation. It can have a big impact if someone has a bad intention, or just doesn't have the knowledge of what might happen. Like in your case, he just thought he was funny..
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I hope Sonos product management are reading this thread. It would be nice if they posted some form of response acknowledging or denying the validity of the requirement. Different people are asking in different ways but all point to the need for some form of authentication. In a larger context, it seems to me that Sonos should want to marry their great sound system with the Cloud. It would provide a solution to all the problems plus provide a nice marketing angle. It would allow Sonos users to keep their credentials, configuration, Sonos favorites list, etc. in the Sonos Cloud and enable users to move from their office to their residence to their summer home have their configurations and favorites go with them.
So John suggests that "many" Sonos owners have more than one home? Delusional at best. Play:1 in UK costs 169 pounds, hardly pricing it out of the mass market. Complete and utter garbage spouted in the pursuit of selfish ends. Let the developers work on things that appear to be needed by a large number of people. (Although if your friends think it's funny to override your system, you need to sort them out)
Anthony - sell the kid, not the equipment. How come you people can't impose appropriate discipline? Unbelievable. Spoilt brats eh?
So you need to decide now if you are going to return it, I guarantee its not going to be password protected before your window is up. This has been a long time ask, its very easy to not have anyone mess with it simply dont let them on your system or have a second ssid that guests can use. Yes its 2014 and yes i have asked for this as well. But being that its 2014 it is now more then ever easy to lock your system down. Doesnt take much to do and there is absolutely no scenario that you can come up with that doesnt have an easy solution to keep folks out. Not making an excuse for sonos as i to do not like this but i also will not let it distract from an otherwise great product.
Didnt you just indirectly answer the password question yourself here? If you could find the "password" for the wireless system then correct your could do that.
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