Luma wifi is about to be released and looks like a great product. Can Sonos and Luma both create mesh networks that work together or will there be interference? I assume they will work, right?! A wifi mesh will be on a different frequency than the Sonos mesh, right? Luma looks like the solution many of us could use if it works as effectively as Sonos does with its own mesh. Opinions?
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I pre-ordered my Luma 12/21/15 from Luma directly and received my three-pack yesterday. I have been converting all my systems over to the Luma network since then. Printers, AppleTV's, Wii, Xbox.
My network consists of the FiOS router that feeds my ISP connection in via coax to the house. It is then distributed through out the house via the Ethernet ports and cabling, and spottily via the 2.4 and 5G wireless bands on that router. The new Luma unit #1 is now plugged in to the FiOS router. I have disabled the wifi channels on the FiOS router and tried to use the Luma wifi as the only wireless. I can access the Sonos system on my Windows PC (connected to router via Ethernet) and the system plays all the Sonos units in the house as expected. However, I cannot control Sonos via the app on my iphone because I get the message from the app that "You're on the Connell_LUMA wireless network but Sonos isn't. Go to Settings > Wi-Fi and change to the network Sonos is on." If I turn the FiOS wireless back on I can control Sonos via the iPhone app.
Checking network settings, the appliances connected to the LUMA network have IPs of 192.168.55.xxx whereas the Sonos components are on 192.168.1.xxx I tried going in to the settings in the PC Sonos program to change the wireless settings to the LUMA network with no success.
I know I somehow need to get the Sonos components on the 192.168.55.xxx but don't know how...
Here's what my system is telling my Sonos consists of presently...
Associated ZP: 192.168.1.12
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PLAY:1: Barn
Serial Number: B8-E9-37-8A-B5-E0:3
Version: 6.3 (build 321130071)
Hardware Version: 1.8.3.7-1
IP Address: 192.168.1.5
WM: 0
OTP:
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BRIDGE: Barn Bridge
Serial Number: 00-0E-58-1A-9E-28:6
Version: 6.3 (build 321130071)
Hardware Version: 1.5.0.0-1
IP Address: 192.168.1.10
WM: 0
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CONNECT: Basement
Serial Number: 00-0E-58-24-DD-C6:G
Version: 6.3 (build 321130071)
Hardware Version: 1.1.16.4-1
IP Address: 192.168.1.246
WM: 0
r8: 16.0-7
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CONNECT:AMP: Family Room
Serial Number: 00-0E-58-32-75-AE:4
Version: 6.3 (build 321130071)
Hardware Version: 1.16.3.1-1
IP Address: 192.168.1.8
WM: 0
OTP: 1.1.1(1-16-3-0.9)
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CONNECT:AMP: Master Bedroom
Serial Number: 00-0E-58-31-7C-20:4
Version: 6.3 (build 321130071)
Hardware Version: 1.16.3.1-1
IP Address: 192.168.1.12
WM: 0
OTP: 1.1.1(1-16-3-0.9)
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PLAY:1: Micaela's Room
Serial Number: 00-0E-58-C9-5B-38:B
Version: 6.3 (build 321130071)
Hardware Version: 1.8.3.7-1
IP Address: 192.168.1.23
WM: 0
OTP:
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PLAY:1: Tack Room
Serial Number: 5C-AA-FD-23-EA-5E:4
Version: 6.3 (build 321130071)
Hardware Version: 1.8.3.7-1
IP Address: 192.168.1.221
WM: 0
OTP:
My network consists of the FiOS router that feeds my ISP connection in via coax to the house. It is then distributed through out the house via the Ethernet ports and cabling, and spottily via the 2.4 and 5G wireless bands on that router. The new Luma unit #1 is now plugged in to the FiOS router. I have disabled the wifi channels on the FiOS router and tried to use the Luma wifi as the only wireless. I can access the Sonos system on my Windows PC (connected to router via Ethernet) and the system plays all the Sonos units in the house as expected. However, I cannot control Sonos via the app on my iphone because I get the message from the app that "You're on the Connell_LUMA wireless network but Sonos isn't. Go to Settings > Wi-Fi and change to the network Sonos is on." If I turn the FiOS wireless back on I can control Sonos via the iPhone app.
Checking network settings, the appliances connected to the LUMA network have IPs of 192.168.55.xxx whereas the Sonos components are on 192.168.1.xxx I tried going in to the settings in the PC Sonos program to change the wireless settings to the LUMA network with no success.
I know I somehow need to get the Sonos components on the 192.168.55.xxx but don't know how...
Here's what my system is telling my Sonos consists of presently...
Associated ZP: 192.168.1.12
---------------------------------
PLAY:1: Barn
Serial Number: B8-E9-37-8A-B5-E0:3
Version: 6.3 (build 321130071)
Hardware Version: 1.8.3.7-1
IP Address: 192.168.1.5
WM: 0
OTP:
---------------------------------
BRIDGE: Barn Bridge
Serial Number: 00-0E-58-1A-9E-28:6
Version: 6.3 (build 321130071)
Hardware Version: 1.5.0.0-1
IP Address: 192.168.1.10
WM: 0
---------------------------------
CONNECT: Basement
Serial Number: 00-0E-58-24-DD-C6:G
Version: 6.3 (build 321130071)
Hardware Version: 1.1.16.4-1
IP Address: 192.168.1.246
WM: 0
r8: 16.0-7
---------------------------------
CONNECT:AMP: Family Room
Serial Number: 00-0E-58-32-75-AE:4
Version: 6.3 (build 321130071)
Hardware Version: 1.16.3.1-1
IP Address: 192.168.1.8
WM: 0
OTP: 1.1.1(1-16-3-0.9)
---------------------------------
CONNECT:AMP: Master Bedroom
Serial Number: 00-0E-58-31-7C-20:4
Version: 6.3 (build 321130071)
Hardware Version: 1.16.3.1-1
IP Address: 192.168.1.12
WM: 0
OTP: 1.1.1(1-16-3-0.9)
---------------------------------
PLAY:1: Micaela's Room
Serial Number: 00-0E-58-C9-5B-38:B
Version: 6.3 (build 321130071)
Hardware Version: 1.8.3.7-1
IP Address: 192.168.1.23
WM: 0
OTP:
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PLAY:1: Tack Room
Serial Number: 5C-AA-FD-23-EA-5E:4
Version: 6.3 (build 321130071)
Hardware Version: 1.8.3.7-1
IP Address: 192.168.1.221
WM: 0
OTP:
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How are they connected? You should be using the LAN port on the Lima router, not the WAN. And I'm assuming DHCP is still handled by the FiOS router, so you must be sure to turn that off on the Lima router. I don't have mine yet so I'm not familiar with the settings and modes yet, if it has a bridge or gateway mode as opposed to router mode, turn that on. You may have to set the gateway and DNS addresses manually to that of the FiOS router. Doing it this way should work but you're not getting some of the benefits the Lima router offers. If you can pass the DHCP handling off to Lima I would..
The Luma only has two Ethernet ports marked IN and OUT and a USB connection. After monkeying around with all sorts of workarounds I gave up and scrapped the whole Sonos setup I had. Powered off all the elements and tried just getting one Play1 connected to the LUMA network. Disabled my antivirus and firewall on my PC and uninstalled the Sonos program. Still couldn't connect to the unit either as an existing system or new system in the setup options using the iphone and iphone app even after a fresh install of the app.
-> Did a factory reset of the Play1 and was finally able to setup a new Sonos system linked in to the LUMA network. Factory resetting each of the other two Play1's and adding them to my newly created system was successful. I then reinstalled the PC Sonos program and was able to have it find the new 3 unit system. I've lost all my playlists, stations, music services, and alarms and had to reindex my music library but I'm up and running. Next I just have to figure out how to add my other non-Play1 units back (ZP120 and ZP90). As you can see I have gotten them over on to the 192.168.55.xxx network this way:
Associated ZP: 192.168.55.158
---------------------------------
PLAY:1: Master Bedroom
Serial Number: B8-E9-37-8A-B5-E0:3
Version: 6.3 (build 321130071)
Hardware Version: 1.8.3.7-1
IP Address: 192.168.55.121
WM: 1
OTP:
---------------------------------
PLAY:1: Micaela's Room
Serial Number: 00-0E-58-C9-5B-38:B
Version: 6.3 (build 321130071)
Hardware Version: 1.8.3.7-1
IP Address: 192.168.55.158
WM: 1
OTP:
---------------------------------
PLAY:1: Office
Serial Number: 5C-AA-FD-23-EA-5E:4
Version: 6.3 (build 321130071)
Hardware Version: 1.8.3.7-1
IP Address: 192.168.55.160
WM: 1
OTP:
-> Did a factory reset of the Play1 and was finally able to setup a new Sonos system linked in to the LUMA network. Factory resetting each of the other two Play1's and adding them to my newly created system was successful. I then reinstalled the PC Sonos program and was able to have it find the new 3 unit system. I've lost all my playlists, stations, music services, and alarms and had to reindex my music library but I'm up and running. Next I just have to figure out how to add my other non-Play1 units back (ZP120 and ZP90). As you can see I have gotten them over on to the 192.168.55.xxx network this way:
Associated ZP: 192.168.55.158
---------------------------------
PLAY:1: Master Bedroom
Serial Number: B8-E9-37-8A-B5-E0:3
Version: 6.3 (build 321130071)
Hardware Version: 1.8.3.7-1
IP Address: 192.168.55.121
WM: 1
OTP:
---------------------------------
PLAY:1: Micaela's Room
Serial Number: 00-0E-58-C9-5B-38:B
Version: 6.3 (build 321130071)
Hardware Version: 1.8.3.7-1
IP Address: 192.168.55.158
WM: 1
OTP:
---------------------------------
PLAY:1: Office
Serial Number: 5C-AA-FD-23-EA-5E:4
Version: 6.3 (build 321130071)
Hardware Version: 1.8.3.7-1
IP Address: 192.168.55.160
WM: 1
OTP:
Ok, probably my last post. I was able to use the factory reset process on the zoneplayer (Connect, and Connect:Amp) devices and get them all working correctly too, so all is well with the world. I wish there was an easier way but having done it I can only hope it helps someone else down the line that needs to do the same thing.
User108155, Your solve saved my butt after a few days of wrestling with different configurations. I actually had a Bridge in the mix—connected to my router—which I knew was outdated but kept anyway. Now it's gone! I've turned off the wifi in my router (well, I've actually made it invisible, just in case I need it if Luma goes out again). Now everything is playing well together: Sonos and Luma and my regular router. It's only since that last Luma update this past month where everything went haywire. I do like Buzz's reco to set my LUMA connection as a DMZ. Just have to figure that out now. Thank god for google.
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