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ratty

Actually SonosNet might be worse. However if you powercycle the Office unit it may rejoin SonosNet. If that doesn't work, try changing the SonosNet channel back and forth. The nuclear option is to factory reset and re-add. 

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Baby monitor back on! I think I have found the culprit…

 

 

Is there a way to get my Office speaker to use Sonosnet rather than WiFi? Assume that would be better...

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Again, try powering off the hubs temporarily and see if anything makes a radical difference.

Good suggestion! That will be one for later in the week when time allows… As it now appears they are creating some interference.

 

If I move the boost should this ideally be centrally located in the house?

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Things are looking better / less red with the devices being power cycled.

This is still with baby monitor off, will turn that back on in 30 minutes

Something in the lounge appears to be source of the most interference… there is a Logitech Harmony Hub, Echo Show, Nvidia Shield, and the under stairs cupboard where the smart home hubs and boost live. This is probably 5m from the sonos lounge

 

 

J

Again, try powering off the hubs temporarily and see if anything makes a radical difference.

ratty

 

This is with just the boost hardwired.

Boost is in the same location as my Hubitat and Hue hubs, i can move it

 

Baby monitor is currently turned off

 

It takes a minute or two before the ANI level reacts to a change in local interferers. 

As for the hubs, try spacing them at least 50cm away. The inverse square law obviously applies.

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This is with just the boost hardwired.

Boost is in the same location as my Hubitat and Hue hubs, i can move it

 

Baby monitor is currently turned off

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@wolvesphil,

Yes, lots of interference around the majority of devices, but maybe things need to settle - it would help to know what 2.4Ghz WiFi channels are in use by the Omada WiFi Hubs, aswell as knowing the chosen SonosNet channel.

Zigbee channel 25 or 26 are often good ones to use as I find those channels do not interfere too much, even with WiFi/SonosNet channel 11, if that may help you at all?

I’m not aware of the customisation allowed with the Omada WiFi mesh system, but perhaps in an ideal world, if no neighbours are encroaching on the property with their wireless networks, It would help for example, to get the Omada/Hubs all using ‘fixed’ channel-1 (ideally with a channel-width of 20Mhz only), then SonosNet on Channel-6 and Zigbee devices like your lights etc. running on channel-25. 

Try to get the baby monitor then on Channel 11 - if it allows that change. When the baby cries it might then only flash your lights on & off (joke) ha ha😀

 

There is no way of changing the baby monitor and I think as @ratty says, it most likely saturates the entire band, which now may explain by previous WiFi issues with the old system and I am now trying to solve something that isnt solveable. 

 

I have my Omada AP’s running on channel 11 as this shows the least interference, 20MHz channel width and Low Tx Power.

 

Zigbee Hubitat Hub is running on Channel 25, so may be some interference with my AP’s

Zigbee Philips Hue is running on channel 15

 

Neighbours wifi channel 6 looking at “Wifi Analyzer App”, also a lower strength one on channel 1

 

Sonosnet has been moved to channel 1 as this looks to be the most free

 

 

ratty

In my experience a baby monitor completed hosed the entire system. They’re notorious. I guess it was a rather crude use of the entire 2.4GHz band, as it evidently sprayed noise everywhere.

Ken_Griffiths

@wolvesphil,

Yes, lots of interference around the majority of devices, but maybe things need to settle - it would help to know what 2.4Ghz WiFi channels are in use by the Omada WiFi Hubs, aswell as knowing the chosen SonosNet channel.

Zigbee channel 25 or 26 are often good ones to use as I find those channels do not interfere too much, even with WiFi/SonosNet channel 11, if that may help you at all?

I’m not aware of the customisation allowed with the Omada WiFi mesh system, but perhaps in an ideal world, if no neighbours are encroaching on the property with their wireless networks, It would help for example, to get the Omada/Hubs all using ‘fixed’ channel-1 (ideally with a channel-width of 20Mhz only), then SonosNet on Channel-6 and Zigbee devices like your lights etc. running on channel-25. 

Try to get the baby monitor then on Channel 11 - if it allows that change. When the baby cries it might then only flash your lights on & off (joke) ha ha😀

 

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I’ll try it this afternoon, as I am pretty intrigued now!

 

Thanks everyone for your input on this so far, been scratching my head for a while on this!

J

You could also experiment with the Sonos channel although I am not optimistic that will make much difference.

J

When you can, turn the whole baby alarm system off for a few minutes and refresh the matrix.

Edit: just seen your question about this!

ratty

Do you have a baby monitoring wireless system?

Yes, I know these cause issues!

Some cause horrendous issues. 

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Do you have a baby monitoring wireless system?

Yes, I know these cause issues! Would be a good test to turn it off next time I am working at home and he is at nursery…

 

Thinking back, this was the reason we initially wired the nursery speaker in, as when the Sonos started playing the white noise the monitor would beep as it lost signal.

ratty

Or a high powered Bluetooth? Something non-WiFi is really aggressive. I kind of doubt it’s the Zigbee.

J

Do you have a baby monitoring wireless system?

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@wolvesphil,

Reserving their IP addresses in the routers DHCP reservation table is also a very worthwhile thing to do too, (if not done already?).

 

Already done this, I will try a staged reboot, when my son wakes up! He is due his nap soon and the “Nursery” one is used to play white noise…

Office has jumped onto the WiFi (WM:1 in the controller’s About), quite possible on 5GHz. 

Thanks for the explanation, will see Ken’s suggestion of turning all off and then back on bit by bit helps….

J

Now only the boost is wired…

What does Office being green mean? Does this mean connected to Boost but nothing else connected via it?

 

It means it is somehow escaping the wireless interference affecting the rest of your speakers, indicated by the red

Edit: @ratty’s suggestion that it has jumped onto 5GHz is a very plausible explanation.

ratty

Office has jumped onto the WiFi (WM:1 in the controller’s About), quite possibly on 5GHz. 

Ken_Griffiths

@wolvesphil,

After some system changes, I sometimes find power-cycling the Sonos products may often help, starting with switching off all, then bringing them back online, one at a time, starting with the Wired Boost then the next nearest (wireless) device (as the crow flies) and the next and so on and so forth. I then wait half an hour.. it’s sometimes a case of being patient and letting things settle.

Reserving their IP addresses in the routers DHCP reservation table is also a very worthwhile thing to do too, (if not done already?).

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Now only the boost is wired…

What does Office being green mean? Does this mean connected to Boost but nothing else connected via it?

 

J

Have you refreshed the matrix?  It won’t update unless you come out and go in again (ie re-click the Network Matrix link).  Nursery was originally wired but you have said it no longer is, so I wonder if this is really the current position?

ratty

 they have since disappeared...)

See my post.

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I think moving the Boost may be the next step to improve things.

There is still a lot of interference, not only around the Boost, but also surrounding the other devices shown as red on left hand column of the matrix, but I would certainly let things settle for at least 20-30 minutes and keep any Sonos devices at least a metre away from other wireless (and Bluetooth) devices - then perhaps look at changing the SonosNet channel - but always allow time for things to settle down before making any change.

This image may assist you too, as it shows the zigbee channels that can sometimes interfere with 2.4Ghz channels:

 

 

That graphic is useful, and something I wasn’t aware of! I have changed the settings of my Zigbee Hub and Sonosnet and will see if this makes any difference (when my Sonos speakers are back online as they have since disappeared...)

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