Control all grouped sonos using TV remote control (via Playbar)


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I already own a Playbar and recently purchased a Play 1. One thing I find invaluable is being able to control the Playbar using the TV remote, even if playing music. It is very intuitive and easy to use. 

What I've noticed however is that now when grouped with the play 1 the TV remote volume control only manages the Playbar vs. the whole group volume. 

Is there a way to add an option to have the TV remote control either only the Playbar or the whole group volume once grouped? 

Would help to extend the handy and intuitive control the bring the volume up and down across the rooms. 

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+1, either allow TV to control group volume or allow full stereo on surrounds as an option. Stereo on the “surrounds” is preferred for most of our tv watching/gaming. Same deal as other people, have to control volume using tablet or phone.

Hi a want this funktion to, pleas make it hapen. Option if remote control change volune synk all group spakers or not. A hevely invested in Sonos speakrs. This funktion is must have in THE app!  Is posible this funktion coms in THE new app tjat is relest? Sorry for THE bad English.

Everyone, it’s simple - Obviously not everybody likes the idea, but there seem to be enough people asking about it to warrant the feature.  Imagine for every post you have on here you probably have 100 others that want it, but don’t know where to go to request it.  

 

 

Well, half the posters aren’t in favor of the feature, and another half of the remaining seem to be confused about what’s being asked.  I don’t know that the development effort is worth it for a 1000 or so users of the total number of Sonos users...compared to other feature requests.  Not my call though. but it’s been a few years now.

 

 

The solution is the same with every feature that has a split audience - checkbox.  Make it an OPTION.  Problems solved.  Nothing else to argue about.  

 

As said earlier in the thread.  You can’t just implement every feature request .with an on off switch,  I think it’s pretty obvious that it won’t work well for many scenarios and would be more of a hindrance than help. 

Everyone, it’s simple - Obviously not everybody likes the idea, but there seem to be enough people asking about it to warrant the feature.  Imagine for every post you have on here you probably have 100 others that want it, but don’t know where to go to request it.  

 

The solution is the same with every feature that has a split audience - checkbox.  Make it an OPTION.  Problems solved.  Nothing else to argue about.  

As MikeV says, feature requests are not always implemented. From Sonos having received these, they undergo consideration based on many, many factors. The primary concern is how useful they may be to our entire customer base, not a select few. What you consider an essential feature may be a massive flaw to someone else and vice-versa. Personally, I wouldn't want other users in my house to have the ability to turn my music up and down whilst I'm listening to music in the study, though I'm sure others would disagree with me. I am not offering Sonos' insight as to the validity of your feedback or idea; we consider all feedback to be crucial. I am trying to illustrate the fact that usefulness is subjective. One thing I wish to make clear is that it is not as cut-and-dry as stating your case and then waiting for a feature to be introduced.

I completely understand what your saying here and would agree it can both be a positive and negative, so I was wondering if we could possibly do it were when you create a group the group it’s self has a group settings section were to were you will have a toggle to say control this group with a remote or not and maybe a setting for sync this group like a sorrow does sounds or separate rooms. Just an idea. Looking forward to future updates and products.

Phil6362772, my understanding is you’re not using the play1 as surround you’re just grouping them for music or tv?  As far as I know my tv remote won’t even control the beam volume with music.  Only when the tv is on probably due to HDMI. However. The only thing I can suggest to you is purchasing the iPort express audio keypad. It’s a great remote that lets you add all your sonos stations to it with a quick key to toggle through them. It also lets you set up a “scene” if you hold the “favorite” button for one second. The “scene” you set up in the app is any or every speaker you want and you can also set the volume and station that begins to play.  The added feature that will interest you is the fact that you can control one speaker volume or all speakers in group. Also, they do not need to be set to the same volume. You choose a percentage for each speaker in the group for the “starting” volume. 

Has this issue been resolved?  Would like to control two play ones grouped with beam via tv remote. Seems simple enough. Right now - remote only controls beam - need to use app to control stereo mode plays. 

Its an absolute pain in the neck. I like many here spent a lot of money on the Playbar with surround speakers.

To all the patronising comments on here saying nobody uses the system like this, sorry you are totally wrong and Sonos both market it to work like that and have a wizard for setting up surround speakers.

Its a design oversight and an awful setup, my girfriend hates it because she cant control the volume on the TV without asking me to use my phone to change the surround speakers.

The arrogance of Sonos staff to dismiss this is fairly typical Ive noticed. On to the next product poorly implenented, the minute there a rival product I will be switching.


tommy d, if you stop the rear speakers as surround speakers, it works perfectly. Controlling the TV volume also controls de surround speakers volume. The problem this thread talks about is when you have your soundbar grouped with other soakers on the house (that are not surround), in this case, you do have to use your phone to control the volume of those grouped speakers.
As stated, if you have indeed setup surround speakers, they will be controlled by the remote's volume. This thread is about grouped speakers. Methinks you need to configure your system correctly.
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Its a design oversight and an awful setup, my girfriend hates it because she cant control the volume on the TV without asking me to use my phone to change the surround speakers.



Are you sure you have the rear speakers set up as surrounds? My TV remote turns up/down the volume of my Playbase and rear surround One’s without needing to touch the app on my phone.
Its an absolute pain in the neck. I like many here spent a lot of money on the Playbar with surround speakers.

To all the patronising comments on here saying nobody uses the system like this, sorry you are totally wrong and Sonos both market it to work like that and have a wizard for setting up surround speakers.

Its a design oversight and an awful setup, my girfriend hates it because she cant control the volume on the TV without asking me to use my phone to change the surround speakers.

The arrogance of Sonos staff to dismiss this is fairly typical Ive noticed. On to the next product poorly implenented, the minute there a rival product I will be switching.
I'd love to have this feature implemented too!
I already own a Playbar and recently purchased a Play 1. One thing I find invaluable is being able to control the Playbar using the TV remote, even if playing music. It is very intuitive and easy to use.

What I've noticed however is that now when grouped with the play 1 the TV remote volume control only manages the Playbar vs. the whole group volume.

Is there a way to add an option to have the TV remote control either only the Playbar or the whole group volume once grouped?

Would help to extend the handy and intuitive control the bring the volume up and down across the rooms.
I'm an Android user too (mostly), but one only needs an iOS device to configure the xPRESS keypads. After that they operate independently.

But, yes, they are quite pricey. However they're pretty customisable (a 'scene' will group defined players and preset volumes, and 'favourites' are a selected subset of Sonos Favorites sources), and unlike some alternatives they don't require a hub as they connect directly to WiFi.

The SYMFONISK thing does look interesting.
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There would be some financial outlay, but an iPort xPRESS keypad could do what's requested. It can be configured to adjust group volume. It would also have better granularity than Alexa's 10% volume steps.

Yes I did see that in my search for a physical remote and was somewhat surprised at the high cost.
Being an Android user anyway it's (thankfully) a non-starter.

I'm keeping my eye on this upcoming IKEA/Sonos collaboration which sounds interesting and may provide the basic remote control solution I'm looking for.

https://www.whathifi.com/us/news/ikeasonos-symfonisk-speakers-will-work-with-a-remote-control
There would be some financial outlay, but an iPort xPRESS keypad could do what's requested. It can be configured to adjust group volume. It would also have better granularity than Alexa's 10% volume steps.
Bernardo,

Also if you set the Echo Dot Alexa to “brief mode” then all you will hear (I believe) is a short (brief) chime when you give the group volume commands.
Thanks for the suggestion which would work, I'm not keen on Alexa though and disabled it soon after installing.
Not least for it's annoyingly loud responses which STILL cannot be set independently of general sound playback.

I think the volume correlation maybe an Amazon restriction, so perhaps add an Echo Dot to your setup instead, as it’s volume can be set entirely independently to the Beam.
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Thanks for the suggestion which would work, I'm not keen on Alexa though and disabled it soon after installing.
Not least for it's annoyingly loud responses which STILL cannot be set independently of general sound playback.
Adding my support for this.

My situation is I have a Beam with bonded Ones as surrounds.
I use this setup for music playback also, adjusting surround levels accordingly.

I've just bought another pair of Ones to be grouped as a separate stereo pair positioned in the front of the room as I prefer the focus of the music to be from the front.

I was also going to group this room with the bonded surround setup to in fill some sound to the back, which may not be everyone's cup of tea but I like it.

Streaming music from various playlists often brings with it changing volumes from track to track, grabbing the TV remote as I have been up to now for Beam/Surrounds music playback is quick and convenient.

Having to reach for my phone, unlock the screen, navigate to Sonos app and fiddle with the levels is comparatively much more inconvenient than a one stop solution.

Whilst I understand it's of no use to some, please recognise it's very useful for many for various reasons and therefore a feature worthy of implementation.

Why don’t you use Alexa Enabled Groups to set/control their group-volume... just set the group up and say to any of the enabling devices “Alexa set the volume to 30%” (just as an example) ..and ALL Sonos devices ‘preferred' in the group will set to that volume.
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Adding my support for this.

My situation is I have a Beam with bonded Ones as surrounds.
I use this setup for music playback also, adjusting surround levels accordingly.

I've just bought another pair of Ones to be grouped as a separate stereo pair positioned in the front of the room as I prefer the focus of the music to be from the front.

I was also going to group this room with the bonded surround setup to in fill some sound to the back, which may not be everyone's cup of tea but I like it.

Streaming music from various playlists often brings with it changing volumes from track to track, grabbing the TV remote as I have been up to now for Beam/Surrounds music playback is quick and convenient.

Having to reach for my phone, unlock the screen, navigate to Sonos app and fiddle with the levels is comparatively much more inconvenient than a one stop solution.

Whilst I understand it's of no use to some, please recognise it's very useful for many for various reasons and therefore a feature worthy of implementation.
I just don’t understand why adding the option to control the volume of grouped speakers with an infrared remote through the PLAYBAR is a unreasonable request. I haven’t seen a valid argument yet!
I concur.

This is a big issue for us and shouldn’t take 4 years to fix. SONOS get moving on this!!!

Don't understand either...
Big disappointment. I got two new One speakers and am also dissatisfied with the surround sound and rather made a group comprised of the playbar and a studio L-R pair. TV Remote only controls the playbar volume and I’m desperately trying to find a solution before I decide on returning them. Anyone find a work-around??
As they are 'Grouped' rooms, rather than 'Bonded' surrounds their volume controls are separate. The group volume is controllable via the Sonos App, but you can also create an Alexa 'enabled' Group in the Amazon Alexa App and together with the Sonos Skill and an echo dot, change the 'Group' volume using voice control. Simply set the PlayBar and its partner Sonos Room as the 'preferred' speakers in the Alexa Group and ensure the group is 'enabled' by the Echo dot in the same room.

It works well and gives you the option to mute/unmute the audio or set a volume between 0 and 100% in increments of 10% across both or each individual Sonos room... so no need to reach for a remote control at all.

I will just add that a similar thing can be achieved with a Logitech harmony remote or Hub, if your TV is supported by Harmony. Most TV's are if they are infrared controlled.

Hope that assists.
Big disappointment. I got two new One speakers and am also dissatisfied with the surround sound and rather made a group comprised of the playbar and a studio L-R pair. TV Remote only controls the playbar volume and I’m desperately trying to find a solution before I decide on returning them. Anyone find a work-around??

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