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Using Sonos as PC Speakers

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You don’t say if it is an HDMI or optical link to the Beam but in either case I’d suspect a PC or driver issue is the root problem.

You could get it to happen and submit a diagnostic to Sonos then call Support to see if they can identify the issue.

I linked my PC to Beam with optical adapter from Sonos and a soundcard. DO you have any advices?

You don’t say if it is an HDMI or optical link to the Beam but in either case I’d suspect a PC or driver issue is the root problem.

You could get it to happen and submit a diagnostic to Sonos then call Support to see if they can identify the issue.

I linked my PC to Beam with optical adapter from Sonos and a soundcard. DO you have any advices?

Hope to not use HDMI

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You don’t say if it is an HDMI or optical link to the Beam but in either case I’d suspect a PC or driver issue is the root problem.

You could get it to happen and submit a diagnostic to Sonos then call Support to see if they can identify the issue.

I linked my PC to Beam with optical adapter from Sonos and a soundcard. DO you have any advices?

Hope to not use HDMI

beam only have HDMI ARC. I use it with optical adapter from Sonos and soundcard.

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You don’t say if it is an HDMI or optical link to the Beam but in either case I’d suspect a PC or driver issue is the root problem.

You could get it to happen and submit a diagnostic to Sonos then call Support to see if they can identify the issue.

I linked my PC to Beam with optical adapter from Sonos and a soundcard. DO you have any advices?

Try another audio source with an optical out, maybe a CD player? If it plays without issue the fault is likely in the PC setup.

Hi everyone,

 

I have read all the posts here. But im still confused. I recently got a Ray and want to use it as my PC speaker.

First I used the adapter that come along with my beam gen2, but it's failed (read the post about it and now realized that it won't work).

Right now I have these 2 questions:

1. If I'm going to use converter from 3.5mm AUX to Optical, is it going to be the DAC or the ADC?

2. Someone recommended to me to use digital way, by using USB-DAC. Is it really going to work? How this will work can someone please enlightened me?

 

Thank you guys

     Soooo has no one here dealing with the audio to video delay thought of using VLC to watch their video? It does as i am sure others do hove the ability to adjust the audio video timing…. I mean, better to just get one that works imo, but if you just want to make what you have work it’s an option.

Side note, The bars that work without the delay also have the ability to pair with other devices so I take it the bar handles all the live encoding to sonos format and sends it to the otherwise “delayed” devices alowing a full undelayed setup?

Hello There, I got the Ray, i’m trying to connect it to my computer, but my computer does not have the optical port, it only has a audio type c. I bought an adapter USB AUDIO CONVERTER OPTICAL AND 3.5MM, I plug it into my type c and a usb port but there is no audio coming out, my computer does detect that there is a speaker plug it and even has the green audio lv going up, Any tips? I was going to return this but I really want to make it work. Much would be appreciated thank you.

I bought this one for $20 on Amazon and it works great on my MacBook

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09QFYNB7Y?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

Make sure you get the “output” version and not the “input” as those are uni-directional.

Thanks for sharing this!  Sounds like there are some draw backs to this (i.e., cannot control volume).  Are there other alternatives? I must admit, audio has always been very confusing for me to fully grasp.  But I’m essentially in a similar situation as Johnson, bought the Ray as soundbar for my 49 inch ultra wide monitor setup.  But running into trouble because my Windows PC does not have optical out.  It only has 3.5MM jack and USB ports (1 C, and a ton of A’s).  Do I need to get a AUX to Optical converter? (like one of these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07W5GNZX5)  If so, does anyone have recommendations (ideally ultra small footprint and from a credible brand, Amazon has a ton of cheapo Chinese ones, who knows what type of security it has).  Or do I need to get a dedicated sound card with optical out…?

Really don’t want to have to return this, the PC soundbar market is kinda meh for the most part.

Thank you for the info, so bar and dedicated surround will be fine for movies and games. But if grouping outside of the surround setup only listen to music where you don't rely on syncing video.

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Interesting article.

I am using 2 x Sonos One SL for my MacBook + Widescreen Home office setup, with AirPlay when I need bright sound. Not convenient for all uses (due to the delay) but still.

@John B thanks for the quick response!  I guess I’m not following the 3.5mm → RCA → Adaptor → Standard optical cable → Ray.

No way to skip the RCA bit? feel like I need another adaptor for 3.5mm to RCA.

What other draw backs are there with the adaptor?

  • Stereo only
  • volume control

I guess I’m just trying to understand which features I’m foregoing using an adaptor vs. sound card.  Any expert opinion here would be much appreciated.

 

Hi. This probably won’t help anyone or add anything to the discussion but I needed to speak lol

I’ve just came here to say that I had an awful day trying to set my first SONOS to my laptop. I spent hours on the phone or trying to sort it by myself. I was able to do it a couple of times but everytime I’d try to connect it to another device, I wouldn’t be able to re-connect it to my laptop.

When the speaker arrived I was truly excited about it and I thought I’d spend 5 minutes setting it up but I ended up wasting my whole day to learn that to use a SONOS as a laptop speaker is almost impossible.

It’s just sad. I’ve dreamed about buying one for years.

Now my day is ruined and I got a headache.

And just thinking that I now have to return it and look for an alternative just make me sick. Such a terrible experience.

Thanks very much SONOS!

 

I have this old sound card with a S/PDIF optical adaptor, do you think it would still be Stereo only?

@John B thanks for the quick response!  I guess I’m not following the 3.5mm → RCA → Adaptor → Standard optical cable → Ray.

No way to skip the RCA bit? feel like I need another adaptor for 3.5mm to RCA.

 

The adapter you linked  has an RCA input and your computer has a 3.5mm jack output.  So you need a cable with a 3.5mm jack at one end and an RCA connector at the other.  There is no adaptation or conversion involved here.  How else are you going to connect the two devices?

What other draw backs are there with the adaptor?

  • Stereo only
  • volume control

I guess I’m just trying to understand which features I’m foregoing using an adaptor vs. sound card.  Any expert opinion here would be much appreciated.

 

You aren’t foregoing anything by using the adapter.  You are losing multichannel sound because you are using an output connection that is only capable of handling stereo.

 

 

 

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I bought beam 2 and want connect with PC (mainboard: TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI + VGA: ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 4070 Ti) but no sound can hear from HDMI port base on mainboard or VGA, i change to use sonos HDMI to optical but still silent, what I have need to config or doing something to beam 2 working? Thanks a lot.

Ah makes sense.  I decided to get an optical soundcard, the ASUS Sonar SE.  Let’s hope this works.

 

I tried plugging in my old ASUS Sonar DX, it has a SPDIF out.  I used a 1 x S/PDIF Header and it doesn’t work :(

hello,
has anyone been able to connect the ray to macbook air m2 as a speaker? i have tried but failed.

I connected my Roam to my Laptop by bluetooth & set it as the active speaker but I am not getting sound. I have a dell laptop running Windows 11. I downloaded updates for the Sonos software and a driver on the laptop. When I try to play a music file on Media Player I get this message: “Windows Media Player cannot play the file because there is a problem with your sound device. There might not be a sound device installed on your computer, it might be in use by another program, or it might not be functioning properly.” Any thoughts as to what might be the problem?  The Roam works fine when I stream music from my phone.  Thanks for your help. 

Hello!

In a setup with Bean Gen 2 + Sub + Amp with 2 in-ceiling connected with the optical cable to a Mac Studio, would we be able to get 5.1? Or would this just be stereo?

 

I’d like to be able to play games or watch movies with surrounds from the Mac Studio but I’m not sure if the optical adapter will be detected by MacOS as a multi-channel output or just 2 channel stereo.

 

Thanks!

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Hi @Gutemberg Ribeiro 

Using an optical connection, you should be able to receive Dolby Digital 5.1 (not DD+) or DTS 5.1, assuming your Apple TV is willing to output those formats - I assume you’ll need to specify the output format manually.

I have no experience playing games on Apple devices, but if it’s anything like playing on a PC, compressed format surround options like those I mention above may not be available. Movies/TV shows shouldn’t be a problem.

I hope this helps.

Thanks for the reply @Corry P 

Sorry but my question is around a Mac Studio (a Mac computer just like a Mac mini or a Macbook) and not an Apple TV. The reason I asked is because for the Mac to be able to send DTS/DD it needs to detect the multichannel support on the optical device connected to it on MacOS Audio MIDI and not stereo like this.

 

 I'm trying to make sure the converter used by Sonos report the correct number of speakers (5.1) to MacOS so it can output DD/DTS before I put this new order.

Can you confirm with your team this info please?

Otherwise it won't work with 5.1and will send only stereo. I think the same applies to regular Windows PCs.

So again, in order for this to work properly Sonos adapter must be able to report 5.1, not 2.0 as in both Windows and MacOS screenshots above.

Can you confirm that info please?

Thanks!

@John B Hi, thanks. What I meant was that after bluetooth pairing, I opened the sound settings to make sure that the roam actually appeared as an available speaker and had the little mark (showing my technical prowess here) next to it showing it was the speaker that should be playing. I do have my sonos music library set up and have no trouble playing music from the laptop on the rest of my system.  All that I want to do with the roam is to be able to connect via bluetooth and use it for sound when I am watching a movie or videos on my laptop.  The built in speakers are not that great.

Thank you both for the replies. Now I understand what is wrong.

In regards to the HDMI @Corry P I understand HDMI and (e)ARC are two different types of signals/protocols and computers (Mac or Windows) are not doing (e)ARC over their HDMI ports.

I could add a HDFury Arcana to get the eARC signal generated for the Sonos devices but that has a weird downside of even that I'm only sending Audio, MacOS (and Windows for that matter) will detect the HDFury Arcana as a display so you can easily "lose" the mouse cursor if you happen to move the mouse on that "non-existent" screen, which is quite annoying. 

Sound Blaster X4 apparently have 7.1/5.1 discrete channels using the SPIDF optical output but I guess this is uncompressed as you mentioned, and the Dolby Digital Live encoding is not available on MacOS:

 

So I guess the only option left is to use the HDFury Arcana and live with the phantom display 😢

If I pick that path, do we have any audio delays using the eARC (assuming ofc the HDFury Arcana doesn't introduce any delays)? Also, assuming the apps can play Atmos (like Apple TV+, Netflix, etc), will it work as expected, right?

Anyway, thank you very much for the replies!

Why am I not getting surround sound with the toslink method from my pc to Arc? I get surround sound to my non Sonos receiver when using the toslink.

Yeah, it is possible. For MacOS when you add an HDMI display it also add an audio device so you can just pick it from the list:

 

About the delay, yeah, there is always "some". But my options for this is to either use Sonos and keep it as the rest of my house, or get a thunderbolt audio interface and plug powered speakers to it as stereo/2.1. Any interface DSP will have "some" delay anyway to convert the signal should be negligible.

The goals are to be able to (1) watch movies/music in a reasonable way (this is not my main HT, just the home office), (2) play games and (3) eventually make skype/teams/slack calls where the delay isn't noticed.

So if this is doable with Sonos rather prefer use it.

Thanks!

@John B Thanks again for trying to help me out.  I really appreciate it.  Yes, I can play music from my sonos library on the laptop over wifi to the entire system, including the roam.  What I am trying to do is use the roam as a speaker for watching videos on my laptop. Basically, I am trying to get the roam to act like any other bluetooth speaker I have ever paired to the laptop and provide the sound from videos and web sites. That is what I can’t figure out. 

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