Been waiting for Google Assistant for over a year. Bought my Sonos system because of the promise from Sonos that Google Assistsnt would be available in late 2018. Very disappointed.
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but i know from a reliable source who was at Google I/O, that Google are blocking the release of assistant on sonos as it doesn't fit with their smart home strategy. details i don't know. but sonos are leaning on google hard to change their mind. it's otherwise ready for release.
the opinion from the insider was that it's just not going to happen anymore.
My, this post seems to have aged well. 😃
My guess is that the governments require certain licensing and such before it can go live there. It could also be that Sonos has to have the proper servers, bandwidth and such in place before they can implement in a country. Clearly, there is some hurdles that have to be passed otherwise it would be released everywhere Sonos and GA already are operating.
I'm curious if you've reached out to your reliable source to ask him/her for a reaction to today's news. I'd be fascinated to hear what reaction they have.
Probably a little far fetched, but I'm guessing someone does/did have insider info. Instead of passing on the truth, stating GA integration wasn't going to happen would lower Sonos stock value (a good time to buy) right before it gets a significant raise when the actual news comes out?
Why not open up instead of only in US. They like to test their customer with these stupid moves.
Jesus SONOS! Still messing with us? Only USA? Why?
sigh... just when i got excited i find out its US only first. so lame.
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tbh I was just looking for a nice soundbar, but like I said, I was hoping for Google assistant.
Regardless of whether or not it hits my region, you can bet I'll be using it before then ;)
You could always get the JBL Link Soundbar with Google Assistant! Oh, wait....
tbh I was just looking for a nice soundbar, but like I said, I was hoping for Google assistant.
Regardless of whether or not it hits my region, you can bet I'll be using it before then ;)
You could always get the JBL Link Soundbar with Google Assistant! Oh, wait....
I know what it said, I read the article. I am not waiting several months for this. I bought it specifically last year because they said it would have google assistant by christmas. I could have bought a nice soundbar and a home hub or something instead, good lord.
You shouldn't buy products based on future features.
Regardless it's confirmed coming. You waited this long, whats another month or so?
Silver lining: At least the American users can iron out any potential bugs that may arise, before it hits your region.
tbh I was just looking for a nice soundbar, but like I said, I was hoping for Google assistant.
Regardless of whether or not it hits my region, you can bet I'll be using it before then 😉
I know what it said, I read the article. I am not waiting several months for this. I bought it specifically last year because they said it would have google assistant by christmas. I could have bought a nice soundbar and a home hub or something instead, good lord.
You shouldn't buy products based on future features.
Regardless it's confirmed coming. You waited this long, whats another month or so?
Silver lining: At least the American users can iron out any potential bugs that may arise, before it hits your region.
Now how the heck am I gonna get this working in Canada?
This is moderately frustrating. I really hope it's available there by default, if not, might have to look into spoofing location or something :@
The functionality will launch in the US initially, “with more markets to come over the next few months,” said Spence.
Source
I know what it said, I read the article. I am not waiting several months for this. I bought it specifically last year because they said it would have google assistant by christmas. I could have bought a nice soundbar and a home hub or something instead, good lord.
I wanna know where they got their information other than "Google I/O"
Now how the heck am I gonna get this working in Canada?
This is moderately frustrating. I really hope it's available there by default, if not, might have to look into spoofing location or something :@
The functionality will launch in the US initially, “with more markets to come over the next few months,” said Spence.
Source
I don't hold the person who posted here in any disregard, they only passed on information that had been given to them. I am curious about the reliable source has to say, though.
Now how the heck am I gonna get this working in Canada?
This is moderately frustrating. I really hope it's available there by default, if not, might have to look into spoofing location or something 😠
I'm curious if you've reached out to your reliable source to ask him/her for a reaction to today's news. I'd be fascinated to hear what reaction they have.
Seriously.
My guess is we wont hear back from them.
but i know from a reliable source who was at Google I/O, that Google are blocking the release of assistant on sonos as it doesn't fit with their smart home strategy. details i don't know. but sonos are leaning on google hard to change their mind. it's otherwise ready for release.
the opinion from the insider was that it's just not going to happen anymore.
I'm curious if you've reached out to your reliable source to ask him/her for a reaction to today's news. I'd be fascinated to hear what reaction they have.
Just going to drop this here....
https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/9/18563413/sonos-google-assistant-smart-speakers-coming-next-week
Looks like Ha1337's "reliable source" isn't so reliable.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/9/18563413/sonos-google-assistant-smart-speakers-coming-next-week
Looks like Ha1337's "reliable source" isn't so reliable.
In the mean time you can lean back and enjoy the sound of one of the best sounding compact speakers on the market. Because sound is what this is all about, right ? And whats wrong with the software ? From time to time people complain, but honestly, I don't hear much complaints about the Sonos app.
I would never buy such an expensive speaker just because it supports (or doesn't) Google Assistant or Alexa. I trust Sonos they will keep delivering one of the best/most reliable wifi speaker systems on the market, but I wouldn't put my bets on Google. They have a history of starting and stopping products when it suits them.
Except for i did buy them for GA support. 9 of them to be exact.
I had bought google homes for every room in the house when sonos announced GA support woupd be coming 2 weeks later. Still within my return period i returned the google homes and bought sonos ones instead. Now nearly 2 years later i sit here with a system that sounds good but doesnt do what i bought it to do. The waiting is getting tiresome.. And if infact the project geys scraped then the quewtion becomes will sonos issue refunds or will a class action be required? Im out about 5 thousand.
Says Sonos:
This quarter we would like to highlight the much-anticipated launch of the Google Assistant on Sonos. We've been working on this for quite a while and are thrilled to be rolling it out next week. Through a software upgrade, Sonos One and Beam will support the Google Assistant in the U.S., with more markets to come over the next few months. This feature will truly elevate the customer experience and marks the first time that consumers will be able to buy a single smart speaker and get to choose which voice assistant they want to use. We think giving consumers choice is always the right decision, and we anticipate this philosophy will be adopted in the industry over time.
https://www.androidcentral.com/google-assistant-finally-headed-sonos-one-and-sonos-beam
This quarter we would like to highlight the much-anticipated launch of the Google Assistant on Sonos. We've been working on this for quite a while and are thrilled to be rolling it out next week. Through a software upgrade, Sonos One and Beam will support the Google Assistant in the U.S., with more markets to come over the next few months. This feature will truly elevate the customer experience and marks the first time that consumers will be able to buy a single smart speaker and get to choose which voice assistant they want to use. We think giving consumers choice is always the right decision, and we anticipate this philosophy will be adopted in the industry over time.
https://www.androidcentral.com/google-assistant-finally-headed-sonos-one-and-sonos-beam
Exactly. Sonos will always be playing catch-up in this game. The big AI guys can and will evolve their strategies. Sonos doesn't have the resources they have. Chromecast, Airplay 2, Alexa Cast and Spotify Connect support (all are currently supported except Chromecast) would allow support of virtually all streaming providers from a phone/tablet, Dot, Spot, Show, Home Hub, etc. Chromecast is the only missing piece right now.
I don't disagree with this from a functionality standpoint, adding in Alexa/GA support in terms of using a non-Sonos VA to command Sonos. I don't think having an aux input is really the equivalent though, as it limits functionality and essentially reduces Sonos to dumb active speakers. Having on-board mics on the Sonos One and Beam may be more trouble than their worth, as they'll always be behind as you pointed out.
However, putting mics helped get the whole system relevant in a way. It's easier to sell someone on an all-in-one device than it is to explain how your system works with Amazon (and eventually Google). People can see it and understand.
I do like having the all-in-one devices, and don't personally miss any features from echos...right now. If a new feature comes up that I think I can definitely use, then, I'll turn off the Sonos mics and throw an echo dot in the room.
Exactly. Sonos will always be playing catch-up in this game. The big AI guys can and will evolve their strategies. Sonos doesn't have the resources they have. Chromecast, Airplay 2, Alexa Cast and Spotify Connect support (all are currently supported except Chromecast) would allow support of virtually all streaming providers from a phone/tablet, Dot, Spot, Show, Home Hub, etc. Chromecast is the only missing piece right now.
The display on the Hub adds immeasurably to the experience, especially on third-party playlists where you can see at a glance what's playing, without the need to interrupt the song by asking. Since any of Google's assistant devices can play by default to a Chromecast device, it's seamless. I honestly spend more time these days casting from the Hub to high quality systems than I use Sonos. And that's a shame.
You could say the same thing about Alexa integration, If Sonos had just added a line-in across their product line and offered bundles that include an Echo Dot the integration would have been done months earlier and would have supported all of the calling features, multiple wake words, and other features that the integration still does not have today. If you use a Spot instead of a Dot you can even have lyrics displayed as your music plays. I know there is a grand plan that supposedly will make the longer road worthwhile but by the time it is delivered will it still be relevant? Or will the voice assistant landscape have shifted so much that the original vision no longer makes sense?
I dunno. As I've said before, I'd have been perfectly happy had Sonos simply added Chromecast, so that a phone, tablet, or any of Google's range of devices, especially the Home Hub, could handle the GA. It would have been simple and done ages ago.
The display on the Hub adds immeasurably to the experience, especially on third-party playlists where you can see at a glance what's playing, without the need to interrupt the song by asking. Since any of Google's assistant devices can play by default to a Chromecast device, it's seamless. I honestly spend more time these days casting from the Hub to high quality systems than I use Sonos. And that's a shame.
The display on the Hub adds immeasurably to the experience, especially on third-party playlists where you can see at a glance what's playing, without the need to interrupt the song by asking. Since any of Google's assistant devices can play by default to a Chromecast device, it's seamless. I honestly spend more time these days casting from the Hub to high quality systems than I use Sonos. And that's a shame.
In the mean time you can lean back and enjoy the sound of one of the best sounding compact speakers on the market. Because sound is what this is all about, right ? And whats wrong with the software ? From time to time people complain, but honestly, I don't hear much complaints about the Sonos app.
I would never buy such an expensive speaker just because it supports (or doesn't) Google Assistant or Alexa. I trust Sonos they will keep delivering one of the best/most reliable wifi speaker systems on the market, but I wouldn't put my bets on Google. They have a history of starting and stopping products when it suits them.
https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/07/google-launches-new-developer-tools-for-the-google-assistant/
I disagree. I don't think we can clearly state the cause of delays at all. Thee has only been speculation. Regarding the SDKs mentioned in your link they do not really look like good fits for Sonos. They don't mention music at all, mostly referring to native apps. I don't think Sonos wants to use native apps, or the local home, at least not initially, because it won't be of any use for their own speaker products, the Sonos One and Beam. Using Sonos already existing cloud service is the way to go. The Local Home would be a good option for those using google VAs with Sonos speakers, but it isn't the broad solution for all scenarios like cloud is. And it doesn't help sell new speakers for Sonos as well.
The local home looks like it will be a great push for selling Google's home hub stuff. Really good push, and I can see it being the top product next Christmas season. And maybe Sonos will work to integrate with that better in a phase 2, for lots of different reasons. I just don't see that happening right now.
I personally don't see much value in guessing whether to blame Google or Sonos. It seems like it only serves as a target for frustration. Why not just be frustrated without concern for who's to blame? Neither company has much to gain by accepting blame, or throwing the other under the bus, so we will unlikely know the truth anyway.
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