Many other news stories available. Also raises many more questions...but progress!
https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/9/18563413/sonos-google-assistant-smart-speakers-coming-next-week
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A spokesperson declined to share additional details on the timing Assistant support for legacy Sonos speakers, saying that the company would share more next week, but CEO Patrick Spence suggested that this functionality was definitely coming as well: “If you have a Google Home device, you will be able to use that to control your Sonos,” Spence said.
Hopefully sooner than later for this most important part of this integration.
It's most certainly not just the One and Beam. As the CEO was quoted above, any Google Home device will be able to control Sonos speakers. Just like any Echo device allows you to control any Sonos speaker ever made via Alexa.
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Highly doubt this, or the Beam wouldn't be supported.
As I've said repeatedly, it is unclear, and we'll have to see.
It shouldn't be the case - Sonos said the Gen 2 was in anticipation of future needs. I can't believe it's such a short time to the future 😃 Plus, the Beam is also supported. That's not seen an upgrade.
Lol. Did you not read my post, immediately before yours? Yes, legacy Sonos speakers will be supported using Google Home devices.
I hope you're right. This is the first time I find myself being a little bit skeptical of Sonos. I've been a loyal fan pretty much since the beginning (remember seeing your name in the forums WAY back so I know you've been around forever too). But the delayed implementation of Google Assistant has been a bit of a black eye for them.
Admittedly, I'm probably more sensitive to it than some as I'm a staunch Google Assistant supporter and refuse to use Alexa (I've tried it - not a fan).
When they announced the Gen 2 ( https://en.community.sonos.com/announcements-228985/sonos-one-gen-2-now-available-6821472 ) it stated that:
You can stereo pair a Gen 2 with Gen 1, or use them together with a Sonos home theater setup as surrounds. There aren't any functionality changes between the two, and Google Assistant will be coming to both of them when we're ready to go. (Bold text by me, not the original)
You can stereo pair a Gen 2 with Gen 1, or use them together with a Sonos home theater setup as surrounds. There aren't any functionality changes between the two, and Google Assistant will be coming to both of them when we're ready to go. (Bold text by me, not the original)
I'll bet you a One Gen 2 that it will work with the Gen 1. Deal?
These are not completely separate stacks as Alexa and Google surely have a lot of common code (and there is also airplay). Besides, there is nothing that says a single speaker needs to support Alexa and Google at the same time, so if memory was an issue, they would setup it so a user must chose between the two options rather than disappoint legions of customers.
And the CEO did not make a distinction between Gen 1 and Gen 2, something he surely would not want to be misleading on.
And the GA beta has been running well before Gen 2 was even released.
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It's a matter of perspective. Personally, as somebody deeply invested in GoogleNest, the security upgrades are welcome and encouraged. Most of the backlash coming to Nest is the fact they've limited Alexa integration, and that was something in the works for awhile. Ever since Amazon began eliminating (some) Google products from their website, the writing was on the wall for GA and Alexa to stop playing nice with their respective connected hardware.
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I have a first gen play 5, and a playbase and nether works with Google home. The devices are in Google home, but google home just doesn't recognize them in any commands. They both work with Alexa. Looks like I am back to waiting again. Not the only reason but this certainly plays into why I have not bought anything new from Sonos.
See reply in your thread.
https://en.community.sonos.com/google-assistant-and-sonos-229109/sonos-with-google-home-perhaps-not-as-good-as-alexa-6825613#post16335762
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My question here is,
Can I take one Sonos One and run Google assistant on it ( I think yes)
Then take another Sonos one and run Alexa on it. ( I think Yes)
Now the question I don't know
Can I run the two together in a pair so I get stereo sound with right and left channel.
Has anyone done this?
Can I take one Sonos One and run Google assistant on it ( I think yes)
Then take another Sonos one and run Alexa on it. ( I think Yes)
Now the question I don't know
Can I run the two together in a pair so I get stereo sound with right and left channel.
Has anyone done this?
Can I run the two together in a pair so I get stereo sound with right and left channel.
Has anyone done this?
I am pretty sure this is not a supported configuration, however, yes I have. I am not 100% sure I can reproduce the steps, and am not going to undue my setup to find out. Here's something to try though.
1 - Remove GA from both speakers you want in your stereo pair. (You may want to remove GA from your whole Sonos setup, not sure)
2 - Setup your Ones as a stereo pair with Alexa configured on both speakers. You should be able to talk to both speakers at this point.
3 - Go to the room settings in the Sonos app for your pair and add Google Assistant as a voice service. GA will get setup on the left speaker in the pair, while Alexa remains on the right speaker.
I have this setup in 3 separate rooms without seeing any issue. For all three rooms, the app says that my Alexa setup is not complete, but it is functioning. I imagine completing the setup will remove GA.
Again, no guarantees that this will work for you, as I may be getting the steps wrong from memory or some other reason. I also wouldn't be surprised to see my setups start having issues with an update, either on my system or in the cloud.
I've owned both Nest and Ecobee and the Ecobee is hands-down a better system. Or at least that's been my experience. I haven't used a Nest in a few years. Maybe now that they finally caught up and started using room sensors it's a little better these days.
They are both nice looking thermostats that work well with Alexa . Ecobee is a private company that is expanding and announcing new products and Ecobee will continue to work with major automation hubs past August 31st. Nest is owned by Google. Google also owned Revolv and we know how that turned out...
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/apr/05/revolv-devices-bricked-google-nest-smart-home
I'm not saying the analogy applies to the multi-room audio market. It's not like Google would ever do something like that to say Chromecast audio users...
https://www.cnet.com/news/google-discontinues-its-chromecast-audio-device/
With this track record I don't see where anyone would be worried that they will be crushed by the new Google Nest organization.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/apr/05/revolv-devices-bricked-google-nest-smart-home
I'm not saying the analogy applies to the multi-room audio market. It's not like Google would ever do something like that to say Chromecast audio users...
https://www.cnet.com/news/google-discontinues-its-chromecast-audio-device/
With this track record I don't see where anyone would be worried that they will be crushed by the new Google Nest organization.
Saw this a few minutes ago as well. It's progress so that's great BUT...
It sounds like the only gateway to using Google Assistant on Sonos is via the Sonos One or Sonos Beam. I hope that I'm either reading into the statement too much OR that this is only the first step and they will eventually (sooner rather than later) add the ability to interface with any Google Assistant Device to play music via Sonos.
If not that's a HUGE swing and miss. I have a feeling this is going to be a frustrating and long process of "almost but not quite" if you know what I mean.
It sounds like the only gateway to using Google Assistant on Sonos is via the Sonos One or Sonos Beam. I hope that I'm either reading into the statement too much OR that this is only the first step and they will eventually (sooner rather than later) add the ability to interface with any Google Assistant Device to play music via Sonos.
If not that's a HUGE swing and miss. I have a feeling this is going to be a frustrating and long process of "almost but not quite" if you know what I mean.
That part doesn't seem to be defined by any of the data so far, one way or another.
We'll just need to wait until the release more information in order to know. I have to admit, it would be challenging to think that the implementation would be that wildly different than the Alexa integration.....but I've got no inside knowledge, nor am I in the beta (although I suppose if I was, I'd have to say that, due to the NDA?)
We'll just need to wait until the release more information in order to know. I have to admit, it would be challenging to think that the implementation would be that wildly different than the Alexa integration.....but I've got no inside knowledge, nor am I in the beta (although I suppose if I was, I'd have to say that, due to the NDA?)
We'll just need to wait until the release more information in order to know. I have to admit, it would be challenging to think that the implementation would be that wildly different than the Alexa integration.....but I've got no inside knowledge, nor am I in the beta (although I suppose if I was, I'd have to say that, due to the NDA?)
Every article out there specifically says "...Sonos is nearly ready to roll out Google Assistant to its Sonos One and Sonos Beam smart speakers"
Engadget even went as far to say "There weren't many other details on the forthcoming launch in Sonos' press release; it still remains to be seen if the Assistant will work with other Sonos speakers via a Google Home device."
I'd be willing to bet money that when the update drops next week it will only apply to Sonos One and Sonos Beam devices.
This is going to be problematic for me (and probably many) because the rooms where I have these devices also contain native Google Home devices. It will be interesting to see which device executes the command or if they have a plan to address this.
My apologies. I was talking specifically about the interface with another Google Assistant device.
Yes, it would make sense that only the Sonos devices that have microphones would be the only Sonos devices that can accept a voice input. That's exactly as the Alexa integration works. It would be challenging to have any of the other speakers do it, as they don't have microphones.
Essentially, I'm predicting that it will react in the same way as an Alexa device. You could use the Sonos speakers that have microphones to use as input. You could then group that speaker with any other Sonos device. And you could use a Google input device to control your Sonos. Essentially exactly the same as the Amazon Alexa integration. It just doesn't make much sense for it to be any other way. But I could be wrong. We'll see soon.
Yes, it would make sense that only the Sonos devices that have microphones would be the only Sonos devices that can accept a voice input. That's exactly as the Alexa integration works. It would be challenging to have any of the other speakers do it, as they don't have microphones.
Essentially, I'm predicting that it will react in the same way as an Alexa device. You could use the Sonos speakers that have microphones to use as input. You could then group that speaker with any other Sonos device. And you could use a Google input device to control your Sonos. Essentially exactly the same as the Amazon Alexa integration. It just doesn't make much sense for it to be any other way. But I could be wrong. We'll see soon.
Oh, I should probably mention that those Sonos speakers with microphones also have faster processors, and potentially more memory than devices that were designed many years earlier. So the same limitations that impact the ability of the older Sonos devices to not be able to be AirPlay 2 and Alexa enabled speakers would impact the ability for them to run the Google Assistant.
Yes, it would make sense that only the Sonos devices that have microphones would be the only Sonos devices that can accept a voice input. That's exactly as the Alexa integration works. It would be challenging to have any of the other speakers do it, as they don't have microphones.
Essentially, I'm predicting that it will react in the same way as an Alexa device. You could use the Sonos speakers that have microphones to use as input. You could then group that speaker with any other Sonos device. And you could use a Google input device to control your Sonos. Essentially exactly the same as the Amazon Alexa integration. It just doesn't make much sense for it to be any other way. But I could be wrong. We'll see soon.
I've never even tried Alexa with my Sonos so I don't know how it works. But I THINK what you're saying is that you expect the user will be able to do one of two things:
1 - Use a Sonos One or Sonos Beam as an input device for Google Assistant commands to control Sonos speakers.
2 - Use any other Google Assistant device (Google Home mini, Google Home Hub, Google Assistant on a phone, etc) as an input device for Google Assistant commands to control Sonos speakers.
I'm saying that I bet that only item 1 above will be available when they launch this feature.
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I would guess that only Gen 2 One's will be supported. There has to be a good reason they updated the hardware recently.
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