Interesting tease here:
https://www.engadget.com/2019/08/08/sonos-fall-event-IFA-2019/
Seems odd that no FCC popups have occurred yet, but I'm not one to be looking for those kinds of things, I count on others in our community for that 🙂
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There seems to be less info available about this, and perhaps it's just less 'sexy' to the masses. Could also (hopefully?) be that the leaks are planned by Sonos and they wanted to hold something back for marketing purposes. In other words, I don't know.
I would guess that a new connect won't be a big change in features. New hardware and airplay 2 compatibility is a given. Maybe the ability the accept digital inputs? maybe an HDMI/HDMI-ARC- pass through of sorts. I imagine the form factor will change to black and better to fit into a rack. I hope the price will lower as well, but I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't change.
No, I don't think your phone charger will work...but I do think you'll be able to use the same charger for both your phone, depending on the model of phone. I did a little looking around (so someone needs to correct me where I'm wrong), but it does look like USB-C can handle up to 20V and 5 A (100W), but can also operate at 5V, 9V, 12V, and 15V...all at 3A? I think there then would be communication between the wall plug and device to specify what's the proper voltage/amp to send without damaging equipment? Assuming that's the case, it seems you'd have to very careful with the wire and plug's you used to make sure everything is compliant.
I would not be surprised though if you could use a 5V charger with the Sonos Move, but it would not be enough juice to operate it, just a very slow charge of the battery.
To be clear, I'm speculating on this, don't know for sure and am not an electrical expert. I'm just seeing products like this one linked below and assuming the Move will operate like a macbook.
I think you are right Chicks I guess what I was wondering was whether my phone charger at 5v and 1A or tablet at 5v and 2A will be sufficient to power / charge at a decent rate cutting down the need to take multiple chargers away. Only minor and answer day on the 27th is getting close
I believe USB-C can source 100W at 20V, more than enough for a speaker with highly efficient Class-D amplifiers.
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Has there been any intel on the S23, or is everyone just gaga for the Move? I’m more interested in a Connect replacement, since I have a ZP80 and a ZP100 that may or may not be DOA’d by “mandatory update” in the near future.
Thanks Chicks, The pictures look impressive to me. I wonder if standard USB C charging will be sufficient or will the Move require the higher power outputs now available in the USB specification, i.e can use my phone charger as a back up or will we need to buy an additional backup charger?
I was trying to use a fire tablet. Guess the auto-correct needs more practice.
But you raise a good point. We don't know specifically yet what the other end of the charging station wire looks like. I think we can assume it's a standard wall plug, rather than stripped wires that would need to be spliced in to wiring behind the wall surface. But then again, I can easily see cutting off the plug, and getting an electrician to do that.
I'm thinking the same as
But I suspect more people will just charge it overnight in their bedroom, pick it up and take it into the bath in the morning for use. At least for those where local codes don't allow wall plugs in the bath.
For where ever code won't allow, or it just makes more sense, agreed.
Frankly, if someone is willing to open the wall to get power from behind, they're just as good with a Sonos One, or a PLAY:5.
Perhaps it depends on the person. I have little qualms about getting in the wall for low voltage, but 110V is not something I'm that comfortable with.
I think it's very likely the charging base will require a standard USB-C wall wart. They are taking over the world now, pretty much, so will be very available. Sonos won't need to worry about sourcing and stocking a proprietary, low margin item.
Look at the first picture, the base is just an empty plastic ring, with no doubt a USB-C port on back, and a couple of fingers to connect to the speaker's charging connector. When travelling, just take the wall wart with you, and plug it into the speaker's USB-C port directly.
Look at the first picture, the base is just an empty plastic ring, with no doubt a USB-C port on back, and a couple of fingers to connect to the speaker's charging connector. When travelling, just take the wall wart with you, and plug it into the speaker's USB-C port directly.
I have the feeling you're responding on your phone....your typing skills seem to be different :)
But you raise a good point. We don't know specifically yet what the other end of the charging station wire looks like. I think we can assume it's a standard wall plug, rather than stripped wires that would need to be spliced in to wiring behind the wall surface. But then again, I can easily see cutting off the plug, and getting an electrician to do that.
But I suspect more people will just charge it overnight in their bedroom, pick it up and take it into the bath in the morning for use. At least for those where local codes don't allow wall plugs in the bath.
Frankly, if someone is willing to open the wall to get power from behind, they're just as good with a Sonos One, or a PLAY:5.
I'm not familiar enough with those areas to know if that's even allowed by the local codes. I suppose it must be, in some fashion, in order to get lights in the space. But I wonder if it extends to other things like electric razors, speakers, curling irons (I'm struggling to think of things that you plug in to the wall in your bathroom), oh, and electric toothbrushes.
It's going to be an interesting several weeks 🙂
But you raise a good point. We don't know specifically yet what the other end of the charging station wire looks like. I think we can assume it's a standard wall plug, rather than stripped wires that would need to be spliced in to wiring behind the wall surface. But then again, I can easily see cutting off the plug, and getting an electrician to do that.
But I suspect more people will just charge it overnight in their bedroom, pick it up and take it into the bath in the morning for use. At least for those where local codes don't allow wall plugs in the bath.
Frankly, if someone is willing to open the wall to get power from behind, they're just as good with a Sonos One, or a PLAY:5.
I'm not familiar enough with those areas to know if that's even allowed by the local codes. I suppose it must be, in some fashion, in order to get lights in the space. But I wonder if it extends to other things like electric razors, speakers, curling irons (I'm struggling to think of things that you plug in to the wall in your bathroom), oh, and electric toothbrushes.
It's going to be an interesting several weeks 🙂
Option 2.
I think the Sonos logo, of that size, would look more odd on that device in the other orientation, but I suspect that’s a personal perspective. And given that it’s a portable speaker, it makes sense that they want to have more visible logo, so others can see who makes such an incredible speaker.
Yea, it just seems like a departure for Sonos.
Ah. I see it now.
I'm not sure I like the look of this too much. I'd like something a little more rugged looking. But it absolutely does look like a sonos. Personal preference.
One thought about this. One hindrance to walk mounting a Sonia is the electrical wiring requirement. You either have to get an electrician to put in an outlet or have exposed wires. The Move though might be within code to wire behind the wall since it's usb. Or not even wire it at all since it's battery powered. Could be very interesting if it's sound quality and price are near the Sonos One.
The handle is at the top of the indentation on the back. Click in the link to the German website that the Verge references, they have more/better pictures.
edit: and thanks, chicks!
edit: and thanks, chicks!
Finally, the change to the new name, Sonia. Or, maybe an autocorrect issue ;)
I think the Sonos logo, of that size, would look more odd on that device in the other orientation, but I suspect that’s a personal perspective. And given that it’s a portable speaker, it makes sense that they want to have more visible logo, so others can see who makes such an incredible speaker.
I think the Sonos logo, of that size, would look more odd on that device in the other orientation, but I suspect that’s a personal perspective. And given that it’s a portable speaker, it makes sense that they want to have more visible logo, so others can see who makes such an incredible speaker.
Details here. https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/circuitbreaker/2019/8/18/20810817/sonos-move-bluetooth-speaker-leak
Where's the handle? Is the thing at the bottom (base station) supposed to be a handle?
Also, kind of strange that the Sonia logo is tilted on it's side like that.
I do like the name.
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Price wise - Play:3 (RIP) was about $299 and Play:5 is $499 …. so I'm thinking $399 on this one maybe up to $449 (JBL Boombox price point).
I'm a Lowepro guy myself. Still have my Dad's Lowepro bag from 1983, to go along with my new backpack.
At some point, I moved from Case Logic, except for their CD sleeves, and started getting Tamrac cases, mostly as they were more focused on my photography needs. But it’s those kind of cases that would be ideal for a travel bag for this upcoming speaker. Enough, but not too much padding, a good water resistant outer layer, and a functional zipper. Shoot, depending on the size of the device, you could even put endpoints on the case so it could be slung with a strap over the shoulder.
Edit: Just remembered the name....CaseLogic. Use to make CD cases, that I used extensively, amongst other things.
I still use 3 or 4 of those giant CD binders to archive all my old stuff. One for DVDs that I still open from time to time when I'm in the mood from some oldies.
You prompted me to google caselogic and it looks like they are still around, mostly doing backpacks, laptop cases, and other more modern devices, but they still sell disc cases.
There used to be a company that made things like this, and I'm struggling to remember their name. I agree, it wouldn't need to be much, but a slight amount of padding, and a good Nylon casing, with a nice zipper.
But I think we're getting outside of Sonos' area of expertise. And maybe I could make my own side business of this, and sell them here....and get banned from the forum :)
Edit: Just remembered the name....CaseLogic. Use to make CD cases, that I used extensively, amongst other things.
But I think we're getting outside of Sonos' area of expertise. And maybe I could make my own side business of this, and sell them here....and get banned from the forum :)
Edit: Just remembered the name....CaseLogic. Use to make CD cases, that I used extensively, amongst other things.
But that brings up a good use case, perhaps for third party creation? A travel sack, that protects the speaker in transit? I've taken PLAY:1s in luggage before, and tried to protect them by packing them in the middle of clothing, but that's a hit or miss solution, especially if the luggage gets "searched" by the local authorities (TSA, etc). No guaranty you have the time to repack safely. I would love some sort of shock absorption packing designed for such a device.
I would think it wouldn't need much, but maybe a hard case will be an accessory. Or a soft case with extra padding...maybe a zipper pouch for a USB-C cable. Feels like this would be good for protecting your speaker as well as keeping your clothes clean, in the case of luggage. You know, if the speaker has a lot of outdoor duty in it's history.
I recently spent a week in the Pacific Northwest, in a small rental home. Would have loved to have a Sonos style speaker there. If it would have fit in my suitcase...unfortunately for this trip, it didn't, as I spent a week in SF prior to zipping up to Washington State. Just not enough space in the luggage I was using.
But that brings up a good use case, perhaps for third party creation? A travel sack, that protects the speaker in transit? I've taken PLAY:1s in luggage before, and tried to protect them by packing them in the middle of clothing, but that's a hit or miss solution, especially if the luggage gets "searched" by the local authorities (TSA, etc). No guaranty you have the time to repack safely. I would love some sort of shock absorption packing designed for such a device.
But that brings up a good use case, perhaps for third party creation? A travel sack, that protects the speaker in transit? I've taken PLAY:1s in luggage before, and tried to protect them by packing them in the middle of clothing, but that's a hit or miss solution, especially if the luggage gets "searched" by the local authorities (TSA, etc). No guaranty you have the time to repack safely. I would love some sort of shock absorption packing designed for such a device.
Sound quality and portability. I travel and the Sonos portable would be the first thing in my case, several times ive been tempted to get a BT speaker but a decent on is in the £100s and would get used when travelling and never at home.
True. I have one that's probably about 6 years old now, and only gets used when traveling or trips to the beach/park/etc. I wonder if Sonos considered how well the speaker would fit in airplane carry on luggage when designing this.
The Sonos, when at home, can be used when we are in the Garden and have friends round. Could even hide them under bushes etc. So killing two.......
This is where I see bluetooth speakers used the most. On the backyard deck or out on the front driveway.
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Sound quality and portability. I travel and the Sonos portable would be the first thing in my case, several times ive been tempted to get a BT speaker but a decent on is in the £100s and would get used when travelling and never at home.
The Sonos, when at home, can be used when we are in the Garden and have friends round. Could even hide them under bushes etc. So killing two.......
This was my thinking as well. I currently have a connect:amp powering two cheap ceiling speakers in there, but 2 of these mounted on the back wall sounds like a nice upgrade. Especially if there's a mount that makes it look like it belongs in a garage. For the times when I want to throw it in the truck to go to the beach or something, they're right there, all charged up and ready to go.
I don't think Sonos needs to do this. i get that you personally might now want to pay 250, but I believe plenty of people will. If you go look at existing bluetooth speakers, there are plenty of speakers in that range. I would bet the sound quality is on par with these others, plus the additional features.
And again, that puts pressure on the ikea market a bit. The lamp is priced at 180.
If this new speaker is the first speaker that someone gets from Sonos, what aspect of it is going to prompt them to buy more speakers? I think sound quality has to be up there. If this is the only sonos speaker I own, I'm not sure I'd even take it out of bluetooth mode until I get a second sonos. If you're an existing customer interested in expanding your system, what is it that you want? Sound quality
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