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I know Sonos does not release any of it's future plans but I'm just wondering about future speakers.

Does any suspect or think Sonos may offer Atmos enabled rear surround speakers. I see quite a few brands have Atmos sound bars plus Atmos Surrounds.

I'm adding more Sonos speakers to my home but If rather just move my current Sonos One's that are currently surrounds to other locations in my home if there is any hope of new surrounds coming.  Do I want to play the waiting game or take chance and purchase new speakers now 

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Best answer by GuitarSuperstar 26 December 2020, 18:52

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The height effect of the Sonos Arc is pretty subtle even with standard, flat 8 ft ceilings. Many even complain about not hearing it at all. Surrounds with upfiring speakers would help create a more convincing height effect especially for people with larger rooms. Plus it would help Sonos sell more speakers. I would replace my pair of Play:1 surrounds in a heartbeat if Sonos offered Ones with upward firing speakers.

Same….I’d take a vacation day to play with them too, but no more. Just one at-mos’

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I am so ready to buy Sonos Atmos up firing speakers if there is a project on the making from Sonos! 
Come on Sonos ingeners  I know you can do this, you have the technology and the knowledge to make this type of speakers 😊👌

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The height effect of the Sonos Arc is pretty subtle even with standard, flat 8 ft ceilings. Many even complain about not hearing it at all. Surrounds with upfiring speakers would help create a more convincing height effect especially for people with larger rooms. Plus it would help Sonos sell more speakers. I would replace my pair of Play:1 surrounds in a heartbeat if Sonos offered Ones with upward firing speakers.

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If you asked me last week if I wanted a play one  surround speaker with Atmos upfiring drivers Is have said yes please because I've always felt the height affects from Arc to be nearly non existent for me 

 

that was until s2 13.1 was released and now I've found that actually the Atmos height affects from the ARC soundbar into be actually very good, the problem was that the volume was way too low and so the other channels drowned out the height channel sound - but now that I'm able to increase the volume it sounds great 

 

as an example, when I play the Dolby Nature Atmos demo file, the scene where it rains it should sound like rain falling on your head. It has never before with the ARC, it sounded basically just like the Playbar in that the rain sounds all around but never above. Now I've gone and jacked up the height channel volume and for the first time since I got the ARC it actually sounds like rain is falling on my head and it's amazing 

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I know Sonos does not release any of it's future plans but I'm just wondering about future speakers.

Does any suspect or think Sonos may offer Atmos enabled rear surround speakers. I see quite a few brands have Atmos sound bars plus Atmos Surrounds.

I'm adding more Sonos speakers to my home but If rather just move my current Sonos One's that are currently surrounds to other locations in my home if there is any hope of new surrounds coming.  Do I want to play the waiting game or take chance and purchase new speakers now 

 

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Was hoping the new release announcement tomorrow was going to some upfiring rears, instead its some bluetooth speaker no one is asking for!!

The ARC really needs some help with its overhead effects, even some sort of control to be able to up the upfiring speaker volume would help.

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I'm hoping they pull their finger out now and release Atmos rear speakers or some sort of 360 sound speaker.  Managed to get a demo in of Sony's new HT-A9 system which only uses 4 speakers but absolutely pisses all over Sonos in terms of creating a sound bubble. Had I not had invested in my current gear, I would have bought that instead. 

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come on sonos, stop making cheaper models of the soundbar! Make your arc surround set up the best!

Get the atmos surround speakers out into the market. 

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@John B 

Exactly what Guitar superstar said.

Sonos (while I love the products) took a long time to bring Atmos speakers to the market. Wondering if a similar story with the sorrounds if at all.

The Arc is the only speaker offering Atmos because is currently the only speaker in the Sonos line that has upward firing speakers. Many other manufacturers also offer surrounds capable of the same. "Maybe there's a helicopter taking off behind you and then flies over your head"

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thanks for all for this input. 

I really learnt many interesting information from this exploring. 
 

I am so ready to buy Sonos Atmos up firing speakers if there is a project on the making from Sonos! 
Come on Sonos ingeners  I know you can do this, you have the technology and the knowledge to make this type of speakers 😊👌

 

I don’t think it’s just a matter of whether there are enough customers to buy atmos surround speakers, it’s also a matter of whether it can be technically be done in a reliable way that Sonos can support.  In this case you’re sending two audio channels to each rear speaker, where you used to send one channel. So a significant increase in wireless traffic in addition to the existing streams for rear surrounds and bass channels.  Maybe it’s not a big deal, but I would think, assuming the Arc has the hardware to do it, it’s going to be less reliable overall, particularly in homes with a lot of wireless traffic, and Sonos won’t want to do this if it’s a small market, and/or going to give Sonos a bad reputation for reliability.

 

 

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I'm hoping they pull their finger out now and release Atmos rear speakers or some sort of 360 sound speaker.  Managed to get a demo in of Sony's new HT-A9 system which only uses 4 speakers but absolutely pisses all over Sonos in terms of creating a sound bubble. Had I not had invested in my current gear, I would have bought that instead. 

I’ve read great things about the Sony system. But the Sony system, bundled with the subwoofer, is $2,300. The Arc/Sub/One SL setup was about $1,900 (before the latest price increases).

I’m sure you could sell your Sonos Arc setup and make most of your money back, especially while inventory is so low and prices have increased.

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I am not sure I know what an 'Atmos surround' is. In the only Sonos product that offers Atmos, the Arc, all the processing work is done by the Arc. The surrounds just play what they are sent, as always. So I am listening to Atmos content using my Play:1s as surrounds. 

Could you explain what you mean please?

An example of “Atmos surrounds” would be Sonos offering Sonos Ones with an upward firing speaker. This would turn the Arc/Sub/Ones x2 setup from a 5.1.2 system to a 5.1.4 system.

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Was reading on material https://hdfury.com

kindly enlighten as my source to Netflix is Sony KDL W904A. 
 

 

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Newbie here. Sorry for my poor communication. Actually my existing TV don’t have EARC KDL w904a from Sony. However currently connected with Sonos ARC and received 5.1 Dolby Digital only. 
 

im not sure how to connect for HD Fury or Chromecast Ultra as read this morning. It is possible? I think so far Apple TV 4K is possible because this device can receive Netflix signal and direct connection to soundbar. 
 

kindly advise me further if I miss out some essential information too. 

Perhaps it’s a case as to whether the rear (virtual) upward firing surround speakers might possibly ‘muddy’ the soundstage perhaps? - see attached Atmos image (using a soundbar:

It’s what sounds best at the end of the day and the actual (real/noticeable) benefit to the listener - I’m not saying it may not happen, but it might be a case that the detail needs to be worked through to get the best sound experience at the chosen ‘sweet spot’. 

I'm hoping they pull their finger out now and release Atmos rear speakers or some sort of 360 sound speaker.  Managed to get a demo in of Sony's new HT-A9 system which only uses 4 speakers but absolutely pisses all over Sonos in terms of creating a sound bubble. Had I not had invested in my current gear, I would have bought that instead. 

I’m tossing up giving the HT-A9 a go - I’m really after a better front soundstage than my Arc 5.1 setup can give (even with Atmos content).  Love the soundstage the Amp and separate speakers gives me, but then lose out on Atmos…. Would like to stay within the Sonos ecosystem, but that would really need for me to see separate front LCR support and improved Atmos options (eg upfiring rears) in the one package.

Newbie here. Sorry for my poor communication. Actually my existing TV don’t have EARC KDL w904a from Sony. However currently connected with Sonos ARC and received 5.1 Dolby Digital only. 
 

im not sure how to connect for HD Fury or Chromecast Ultra as read this morning. It is possible? I think so far Apple TV 4K is possible because this device can receive Netflix signal and direct connection to soundbar. 
 

kindly advise me further if I miss out some essential information too. 

This diagram below shows how the arcana fits into a ‘typical’ setup with a HDMI switch and it connects to both the TV and Arc, which allows the Apps on the peripheral devices to bypass the TV and provide you with Dolby Atmos audio. Hope that assists.

 

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Thanks for your sharing. It still require external devices apps to have a input source to convert audio to soundbar and Video signal to TV. It is a nice stuff. 
because my TV can connect to Netflix so was not consider another devices. 
 

 

Thanks for your sharing. It still require external devices apps to have a input source to convert audio to soundbar and Video signal to TV. It is a nice stuff. 
because my TV can connect to Netflix so was not consider another devices. 
 

Yes, you need to use Apps (Netflix etc.) on devices like Apple TV 4K, Fire-TV 4K, Nvidia Shield etc.

The Apps on the ‘old’ TV will not support Atmos audio, but will still work okay with whatever audio the TV supports (either PCM stereo or Dolby Digital). The Arcana though is geared to use Apps on connected devices and to bypass the TV altogether with the Atmos audio from those Apps instead.

I haven’t tried Arcana myself, but I’m told it works really well and often saves having to buy a new TV.

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I am agree. It won’t  be for many people for sure, but for those who are movie lovers like myself would be great. Maybe is to much ask for now, I just hope it will possible and hopefully not so far into the future 😁 

 

I am not sure I know what an 'Atmos surround' is. In the only Sonos product that offers Atmos, the Arc, all the processing work is done by the Arc. The surrounds just play what they are sent, as always. So I am listening to Atmos content using my Play:1s as surrounds. 

Could you explain what you mean please?

come on sonos, stop making cheaper models of the soundbar! Make your arc surround set up the best!

Get the atmos surround speakers out into the market. 

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I'm hoping they pull their finger out now and release Atmos rear speakers or some sort of 360 sound speaker.  Managed to get a demo in of Sony's new HT-A9 system which only uses 4 speakers but absolutely pisses all over Sonos in terms of creating a sound bubble. Had I not had invested in my current gear, I would have bought that instead. 

I still might buy it, even though the reviews aren’t as good. And the Sonos has had very reliable connectivity for me 

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My current TV have limit for ATMOS experience and currently 5.1 at the moment.. I wonder if change TV only can elevate this experience too. 

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