Hi Sonos,
Please somebody tell us, if and when airplay support will be added. It is definitely possible to do as some people have already written open source code to do it. But it is a hassle to use as I need to run a program on my mac to be able to stream music directly to my sonos speakers from my music app on my iPhone or iTunes. I can already now stream my AppleMusic from the cloud , I can stream DRM music. With airplay we just don't need to worry about your controller limitations.
Why can't you guys add official support,so I don't need to remember to start the service on my mac?
You are in the business of hardware, let Apple and others be in the business of music software.
I am now Apple Music subscriber and most of my music is in the cloud. and all the speakers I bought over $4000 USD would be worthless to me because none of my new music is accessible via official channels.
Thank god for the open source project that makes is available and simple. So it is doable even by people who do not privy to your internals. It should be very easy for official Sonos developers.
Also I don't like your player interface! It is NOT as good as Apple or Spotify. Please Please can you just add support for AirPlay?
And if NOT, please tell me WHY NOT?
Regards,
-D.
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I've been wanting AirPlay for 2 years, and adding Apple Music is of no interest to me.
I have my music on a NAS, and linked to an iTunes account. I need to turn on my PC and update iTunes to get that music on the NAS to be able to stream it to Sonos. That's fine for music.
I also listen to podcasts every day. They auto download to my phone/iPad, so I want to be able to play them direct from my phone. I'm not going to update my iTunes twice a day just to listen to a 30 minute podcast once. I'm also not going to buy an apple router just for that one function.
Is it now accepted they will never be adding AirPlay support?
I have my music on a NAS, and linked to an iTunes account. I need to turn on my PC and update iTunes to get that music on the NAS to be able to stream it to Sonos. That's fine for music.
I also listen to podcasts every day. They auto download to my phone/iPad, so I want to be able to play them direct from my phone. I'm not going to update my iTunes twice a day just to listen to a 30 minute podcast once. I'm also not going to buy an apple router just for that one function.
Is it now accepted they will never be adding AirPlay support?
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nice article on 9to5mac. don't get me wrong, I love Sonos and have it in every room of my house. just want to be able play my music on it. Looks like I'll have it soon. at the end I am not married to AirPlay, I just want a convenience of being able to play music without any limitation of where it is.
Seem like we will have it soon.
I did not realize that Sonos 5 v2 I just bought, plays music directly from a streaming service rather than streaming it from an iPhone or iMac. This is very cool.
so that means, Apple Music may stream directly to a speaker bypassing the devices. I think I will take that over AirPlay.
Meaning , I can start the playback and leave the room or even the house and what I started can continue playing.
Seem like we will have it soon.
I did not realize that Sonos 5 v2 I just bought, plays music directly from a streaming service rather than streaming it from an iPhone or iMac. This is very cool.
so that means, Apple Music may stream directly to a speaker bypassing the devices. I think I will take that over AirPlay.
Meaning , I can start the playback and leave the room or even the house and what I started can continue playing.
Even the Apple fanboyz at 9to5 Mac know Airplay is outdated, buggy and in need of an overhaul. The article tap dances quite a bit, but the Airplay sufferers mince no words in the comments, many of them moved on to Sonos.
http://9to5mac.com/2015/08/26/opinion-airplay-future/
http://9to5mac.com/2015/08/26/opinion-airplay-future/
Their engineering efforts would be FAR better spent implementing a Google Cast for Audio receiver than AirPlay. GCA is available for both Android and Apple, and is based on the player doing the streaming (like Sonos already does, as well as Spotify Connect). AirPlay is just an awful protocol that needs to die.
You can use AirPlay with an Airport Express. It works, but limited range in my experience. With more services being added to Sonos, I rarely use it.
But at the end, I prefer to only have one music app and play my music from there. Hopefully the approach they are taking is integration with Apple music app which would add Sonos destinations in the app using Sonos APIs .
So that all the streaming from the cloud and DRM decoding would be done by Apple App and then passed to Sonos APIs to stream inside the house.
We'll see how it is done soon enough it seems.
I am happy that my wait for Apple support is nearly over.
I personally doubt that is the approach. I imagine it will be an incorporation of Apple Music into the Sonos app itself. There are two schools of thought to this: Yours, in which you are married to a single app for your music and want nothing more than that, and those of us who have multiple sources for music and would rather use a combined app/UI to access them all, instead of shifting from the TuneIn app for radio, to the Apple Music app for music, to the local player app for my personal library, to the Pandora app for Pandora, etc., etc. Either way is a subjective and personal choice, but if you look at Sonos' history, they tend towards the "one app to rule them all" approach (with Google Play Music being the one exception). I guess time will tell.
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You may have a point there. I need to read up on the underlying Sonos technologies.
But at the end, I prefer to only have one music app and play my music from there. Hopefully the approach they are taking is integration with Apple music app which would add Sonos destinations in the app using Sonos APIs .
So that all the streaming from the cloud and DRM decoding would be done by Apple App and then passed to Sonos APIs to stream inside the house.
We'll see how it is done soon enough it seems.
I am happy that my wait for Apple support is nearly over.
But at the end, I prefer to only have one music app and play my music from there. Hopefully the approach they are taking is integration with Apple music app which would add Sonos destinations in the app using Sonos APIs .
So that all the streaming from the cloud and DRM decoding would be done by Apple App and then passed to Sonos APIs to stream inside the house.
We'll see how it is done soon enough it seems.
I am happy that my wait for Apple support is nearly over.
Quite frankly, in my experience, Airplay sucks. Their "thru the phone, doubling the bandwidth, one stream only, no multi-room" design is about 5-6 years out of date compared to Sonos and others who bypass the phone and stream directly to the speakers. As for WiFi usage, they are 10 years out of date, because Sonos uses the far superior mesh instead of standard WiFi.
And personally, I'm glad Sonos is not beholden to any licensing such as Spotify Connect or Apple Airplay, and instead remain steadfastly neutral when it comes to music services. That way, no particular service can hold them hostage, insisting on exclusive support or causing Sonos to neglect some providers in favor of another.
A billion dollar company such as Sonos, can do much better than catch up to AirPlay or AppleMusic integration by the end of the year. they have resources and we pay them very well by buying their very expensive products.
Also, supporting AppleMusic does not necessary imply supporting AirPlay. (Airplay would not support queues on the speakers), but I think they should still support AirPlay and some sort of AppleMusic support where DRM files can be put onto music queues and played from the speaker itself. Hope they do.
Quite frankly, in my experience, Airplay sucks. Their "thru the phone, doubling the bandwidth, one stream only, no multi-room" design is about 5-6 years out of date compared to Sonos and others who bypass the phone and stream directly to the speakers. As for WiFi usage, they are 10 years out of date, because Sonos uses the far superior mesh instead of standard WiFi.
And personally, I'm glad Sonos is not beholden to any licensing such as Spotify Connect or Apple Airplay, and instead remain steadfastly neutral when it comes to music services. That way, no particular service can hold them hostage, insisting on exclusive support or causing Sonos to neglect some providers in favor of another.
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joined the beta program. Hopefully be able to stream in 2 weeks. keeping fingers crossed.
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JGatie, appreciate your comments. And I agree that Sonos could not have done it in the same way. But as a billion dollar company, Sonos can easily afford whatever license fees apple is asking for airplay integration. I don't even think they ask for licensing fees, just certification process with them may take some time.
A billion dollar company such as Sonos, can do much better than catch up to AirPlay or AppleMusic integration by the end of the year. they have resources and we pay them very well by buying their very expensive products.
Also, supporting AppleMusic does not necessary imply supporting AirPlay. (Airplay would not support queues on the speakers), but I think they should still support AirPlay and some sort of AppleMusic support where DRM files can be put onto music queues and played from the speaker itself. Hope they do.
A billion dollar company such as Sonos, can do much better than catch up to AirPlay or AppleMusic integration by the end of the year. they have resources and we pay them very well by buying their very expensive products.
Also, supporting AppleMusic does not necessary imply supporting AirPlay. (Airplay would not support queues on the speakers), but I think they should still support AirPlay and some sort of AppleMusic support where DRM files can be put onto music queues and played from the speaker itself. Hope they do.
First of all, that "open source code" is an illegal hack, and has ceased working with the newer Mac OS. If it was any more than one guy in his basement distributing it (say like a billion dollar in sales multi-room streaming company), Apple would have sued them into bankruptcy.
Second, check out the three or four threads about Apple Music on this site. I think you will be pleasantly surprised to hear Sonos/Apple Music support was announced months ago, and will be released in a Beta on Dec. 15.
Second, check out the three or four threads about Apple Music on this site. I think you will be pleasantly surprised to hear Sonos/Apple Music support was announced months ago, and will be released in a Beta on Dec. 15.
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I thought about it a bit more. Airplay is not the same as native Sonos play, where file is being downloaded to the speaker itself. so if the file is DRM protected or plays from the cloud, I understand the native sonos play architecture can not work. But , still, most users will be satisfied with just streaming music to the speaker (ala: bluetooth fashion ) and not have ability to create queues on the device as an additional service that is supported.
So for DRM music we could wait till sonos has some encryption keys sitting on the speaker (those would have to be provided by Apple and is not easy to get I am sure) , but live streaming should be done and easy to do. Please add it. It is badly needed.
Regards,
-D
So for DRM music we could wait till sonos has some encryption keys sitting on the speaker (those would have to be provided by Apple and is not easy to get I am sure) , but live streaming should be done and easy to do. Please add it. It is badly needed.
Regards,
-D
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